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Yes the s6 active does. It also has a quad hd screen. Takes much more battery the keep it powered.

The mate 8 is newer by 4-5 months, so what?
I recall you here praising the A9 when it is 6 months newer than exynos processors and don't see 6 months as a big deal (neither do I). But now 4-5 months is a big deal because it does not favour the iPhone?

I already said the mate 8 was impressive. It's also got a 4000 battery.

I still praise the a9. The performance increase of the cpu/gpu was unexpected along with the new drive controller makes it still in the top range 4-5 months later.
 
I already said the mate 8 was impressive. It's also got a 4000 battery.

I still praise the a9. The performance increase of the cpu/gpu was unexpected along with the new drive controller makes it still in the top range 4-5 months later.
Yeah u think the A9 is a beast too. Not even because of its sheer speed, but the ability to keep running at maximum speed without throttling for long periods of time.
You just mentioned the size and because mate 8 is newer for better battery life. Just saying you can't dismiss "newer" in certain instances and then use it to your benefit in others.

If rumors are true of the iPhone 7 with 3100 mah, it might return to the top.
 
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Yeah u think the A9 is a beast too. Not even because of its sheer speed, but the ability to keep running at maximum speed without throttling for long periods of time.
You just mentioned the size and because mate 8 is newer for better battery life. Just saying you can't dismiss "newer" in certain instances and then use it to your benefit in others.

If rumors are true of the iPhone 7 with 3100 mah, it might return to the top.

So you're just repeating what I've said already. Yes I think the a9 is a beast. Is there a point there? The mate 8 is newer and has a bigger battery. Newer should mean efficient. But the battery life looks to be impressive. The s6 active while not newer still has a bigger battery.
 
So you're just repeating what I've said already. Yes I think the a9 is a beast. Is there a point there? The mate 8 is newer and has a bigger battery. Newer should mean efficient. But the battery life looks to be impressive. The s6 active while not newer still has a bigger battery.
I'm glad you said newer should mean more efficient. Since this does not seem to be true in apples case. I.e. iPhone 6 plus vs 6s plus battery life.

The s6 active while not newer has a much better power hungry screen. It's not Samsung or huawei fault why Apple chases thinness instead of better battery life. So don't use bigger batteries as an excuse.

Of lately persons favouring the iPhone has been playing the specs game. (The A9 scores this on antutu,etc).
Well here Samsung and huawei specs beat the iPhone (in battery size). But better specs don't matter now right?

As long as it is in a great form factor a manufacturer can put a 9000 mah battery if they want. They are actually listening to the general public.
 
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I'm glad you said newer should mean more efficient. Since this does not seem to be true in apples case. I.e. iPhone 6 plus vs 6s plus battery life.

The s6 active while not newer has a much better power hungry screen. It's not Samsung or huawei fault why Apple chases thinness instead of better battery life. So don't use bigger batteries as an excuse.

Of lately persons favouring the iPhone has been playing the specs game. (The A9 scores this on antutu,etc).
Well here Samsung and huawei specs beat the iPhone (in battery size). But better specs don't matter now right?

As long as it is in a great form factor a manufacturer can put a 9000 mah battery if they want. They are actually listening to the general public.

Newer should mean efficient. I've never said the 6s has the best battery life. It is more efficient this year hence the smaller battery. Overall I wish the battery life was better but the 6s plus is universally touted as having good/great battery life. It doesn't have to be number 1 but it should be comparable to the top tier.

It's not an excuse. A bigger battery should mean more battery life. That's basically physics.

Specs to me just show capability. Most of the time we don't stress these phones like that. It's just to show what they're capable of. A high antutu score just shows me the cup/gpu of the 6s is strong. I'm more impressed with the new nand controller myself, something basically nobody expected.
 
LOL at the claims of Android Power Management being "AWFUL" and the comparisons of Android SOT and iOS Usage.

The Huawei Mate 8 just posted one of the best battery times at GSMArena despite a huge 6inch display.

I find it laughable that the excuse iPhone fanboys run to is that Androids have huge batteries, BUT they love to forget that Androids also have a lot more resources to push i.e. much higher res displays, multiple tasks in the background, allow a lot more access for apps to the hardware, and tend to have a lot more baked in, yet despite that, phones like Huawei Mate 7, Huawei Mate 8, Galaxy Note 4, Galaxy Note5, Moto X, Droid Turbo etc etc... Give great battery life.

The iPhone6S and 6S Plus have a lot less to do, lower res displays, a very limited OS yet tend to produce rather average battery results when considering they don't do as much as even a low end Micromax Android.

The iPhones do give great Stand By time, but in this day and age its great to have a phone that can also take a hammering and last long.
 
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iOS counts Usage even when the Display is Off e.g. playing Music, updating feeds in the background etc.... Android SOT and iOS Usage can't be compared at all.

I am not talking about usage I am talking about screen on time per app per 24 hour period. If you manually add the SOT per app for a 24 hour period then you get total SOT for that 24 hours period.
 
LOL at the claims of Android Power Management being "AWFUL" and the comparisons of Android SOT and iOS Usage.

The Huawei Mate 8 just posted one of the best battery times at GSMArena despite a huge 6inch display.

I find it laughable that the excuse iPhone fanboys run to is that Androids have huge batteries, BUT they love to forget that Androids also have a lot more resources to push i.e. much higher res displays, multiple tasks in the background, allow a lot more access for apps to the hardware, and tend to have a lot more baked in, yet despite that, phones like Huawei Mate 7, Huawei Mate 8, Galaxy Note 4, Galaxy Note5, Moto X, Droid Turbo etc etc... Give great battery life.

The iPhone6S and 6S Plus have a lot less to do, lower res displays, a very limited OS yet tend to produce rather average battery results when considering they don't do as much as even a low end Micromax Android.

The iPhones do give great Stand By time, but in this day and age its great to have a phone that can also take a hammering and last long.
The iPhone 6S plus/ 6 plus has a great battery life. You can actually use it for hours and hours. It's battery life is better than the note 4 and 5. As for the other phones you mentioned I don't know go the plus stacks up against those.
 
I think as long as you get a days worth of battery out of your phone, it shouldn't be an issue. My iPhone lasts a day under fairly heavy use and is charged every night anyway. I would imagine that is a fairly standard usage pattern for a lot of people. The competitive debate people are having here is probably relevant if you live in the wilderness and only charge your phone every 3 days lol. Surely most modern flagships have good enough batteries for a solid days use now.
 
I think as long as you get a days worth of battery out of your phone, it shouldn't be an issue. My iPhone lasts a day under fairly heavy use and is charged every night anyway. I would imagine that is a fairly standard usage pattern for a lot of people. The competitive debate people are having here is probably relevant if you live in the wilderness and only charge your phone every 3 days lol. Surely most modern flagships have good enough batteries for a solid days use now.
That's all I really want. If it can come off the charger at 7am, manage a day of heavy use and be at around 25-30% when I go to be at around 11PM, I am happy. It must not be dead when I go to bed though, it must still have some charge in case of any emergency.
 
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That's all I really want. If it can come off the charger at 7am, manage a day of heavy use and be at around 25-30% when I go to be at around 11PM, I am happy. It must not be dead when I go to bed though, it must still have some charge in case of any emergency.
I've usually got about 15% by the time I plug it in at night, just enough to read a bit of my book.
 
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It's 2016 and I'm still happy using my phone (Samsung Note 3, stock with root and Google home screen launcher) from 2013.

These are my battery stats from last week (and I didn't forget to charge my phone over night, I just swap batteries when needed. I'm not a wall hugger hahaha).

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It's 2016 and I'm still happy using my phone (Samsung Note 3, stock with root and Google home screen launcher) from 2013.

These are my battery stats from last week (and I didn't forget to charge my phone over night, I just swap batteries when needed. I'm not a wall hugger hahaha).

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These Note beasts should only be upgraded every 2-3years at least


I know some people who are happily using Note 2 LTEs and Note 3s.
 
These Note beasts should only be upgraded every 2-3years at least


I know some people who are happily using Note 2 LTEs and Note 3s.
Yep...I have a buddy at work that has a Note 2. Loves his N2 and has no desire to upgrade it anytime soon. Love his removable battery and sd card slot. I show him my N5 and he just says "meh" and chuckles.
 
Yep...I have a buddy at work that has a Note 2. Loves his N2 and has no desire to upgrade it anytime soon. Love his removable battery and sd card slot. I show him my N5 and he just says "meh" and chuckles.
Even Note5 users will be like that in 2-3years time, thanks to the incredible Camera, top notch display, SPen suite, 4GB RAM and its 14nm Exynos.

Notes just age longer, I think its partly due to the time they get released and when many hardware components like the latest RAM, Antenna etc... Are available for the following year and the Notes seem to get early access or something.
 
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Even Note5 users will be like that in 2-3years time, thanks to the incredible Camera, top notch display, SPen suite, 4GB RAM and its 14nm Exynos.

Having had one briefly I would agree with this I think, it's an obviously very fast and very powerful device. Will be interesting to see what the Note 6 ends up like though. I say the same thing about Sony phones as a lot of people still use the Z1 or Z1 Compact and don't want to upgrade, hmm maybe if Sony made those phones worst they would have better sales from people upgrading hehe.
 
Having had one briefly I would agree with this I think, it's an obviously very fast and very powerful device. Will be interesting to see what the Note 6 ends up like though. I say the same thing about Sony phones as a lot of people still use the Z1 or Z1 Compact and don't want to upgrade, hmm maybe if Sony made those phones worst they would have better sales from people upgrading hehe.

This is very true! I've seen a lot of Z1 and Z2s around actually.

Well with the Z3+ and Z5/5P, they will certainly have some customers wanting to jump, going by what I've read, mainly due to the Snapdragon 810 heating up (Z3+) and major power consumption (Z3+, Z5 and Z5P).
 
This is very true! I've seen a lot of Z1 and Z2s around actually.

Well with the Z3+ and Z5/5P, they will certainly have some customers wanting to jump, going by what I've read, mainly due to the Snapdragon 810 heating up (Z3+) and major power consumption (Z3+, Z5 and Z5P).

Z5 has been great battery wise for me. Lasting me far longer than my 6P. Averaging around 5 hours SOT (some days more = 6hrs , some less = 4hrs). I can't say I see any difference battery wise compared to my previous Z3 and by far this is much faster device in general day to day operation than the Z3. On lighter use days, easily get over 2 days battery life even without stamina mode. I likewise haven't had any heating issues. It's about same heat wise as my 6P which are both much less than the Moto X Style which has the 808 instead of the 810.
 
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iOS counts Usage even when the Display is Off e.g. playing Music, updating feeds in the background etc.... Android SOT and iOS Usage can't be compared at all.
This is true. This is why I consistently get 8-10 hrs usage on my 6S and 6S+ while only getting two hours of screen time on my Note 4/Note Edge. I would probably get about the same usage times of iOS calculated actual screen time as Android does.
 
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Z5 has been great battery wise for me. Lasting me far longer than my 6P. Averaging around 5 hours SOT (some days more = 6hrs , some less = 4hrs). I can't say I see any difference battery wise compared to my previous Z3 and by far this is much faster device in general day to day operation than the Z3. On lighter use days, easily get over 2 days battery life even without stamina mode. I likewise haven't had any heating issues. It's about same heat wise as my 6P which are both much less than the Moto X Style which has the 808 instead of the 810.
May have something to do with the fact that it is only pushing 1080p even though it's a 4k screen so it isn't as taxing on the gpu.
 
Like I stated previously about what I consider my biggest rant about android is only confirmed more:

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Four...ns-on-just-1.2-of-all-Android-devices_id77948

what is the reason you need marsmallow (or the latest os generally)? just because you want it? does it make your phone better? dont your phone work with lollipop?

4monts after releasing the new os by google is a short time even to upgrade any device (except nexuses) and usually manufacturers dont even consider the first release (which usually isnt stable either) but they wait to get the stable one to build it for their phones. when they finally take the stable one, they cant release it yet: it is also checked by carriers and finally it goes to google and google is accepting or rejecting it. it takes time until manufacturers can even release the update for customers.

when your phone has the stable os inside, why do you need the latest os rather than running the stable one? gapps are always updated via playstore and hence getting new possible functionalities without needing os updates.
 
what is the reason you need marsmallow (or the latest os generally)? just because you want it? does it make your phone better? dont your phone work with lollipop?

4monts after releasing the new os by google is a short time even to upgrade any device (except nexuses) and usually manufacturers dont even consider the first release (which usually isnt stable either) but they wait to get the stable one to build it for their phones. when they finally take the stable one, they cant release it yet: it is also checked by carriers and finally it goes to google and google is accepting or rejecting it. it takes time until manufacturers can even release the update for customers.

when your phone has the stable os inside, why do you need the latest os rather than running the stable one? gapps are always updated via playstore and hence getting new possible functionalities without needing os updates.

My first answer is security updates. I really feel sorry for anyone that can't get these straight from Google monthly (I did read Priv is doing an awesome job here, Samsung should take note).

Secondly, no one needs an OS update. But does it make your phone better? Really depends on the phone and the OS update. But I can guarantee that Marshmallow for Doze alone will make most all 2014-2015 phones better in terms of battery life. There are so many other great features that just become a part of your daily life and you couldn't live without them once you use them.

My personal opinion is having the latest and greatest is always better. I don't mind a little instability in the short term for updated features. So my "need" is not for stability. Which is why I would never, ever buy outside of the Nexus line again.
 
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