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turbineseaplane

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Federico says it has been fixed, but perhaps not by a panel rotation and instead an optimized display controller?

"I’m happy to report that, in the new iPad mini, the jelly scrolling issue has been fixed without the need to change the underlying display technology of the device. The new iPad mini has an optimized display controller that ensures the entire panel will refresh at the same rate and speed."

 

turbineseaplane

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Ars has the truth nicely encapsulated:

Lastly, there have been improvements to the display that should mitigate some of the jelly scrolling that irritated a subset of owners of the previous generation of the iPad mini.
 

turbineseaplane

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LOVE this candor from The Verge:

All I see in this tablet is Apple knowing that people who love the Mini will keep buying the Mini no matter what, and thus doing absolutely nothing to make the product better in any real way

6/10 score is about right

 

thadoggfather

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I was just skimming video reviews to tell.

Improved but not fixed. LOL! so not fixed as far as I'm concerned. In the slow motion capture it seems very subtle improvement. Whether or not that translates in practice idk but

That could've been the biggest upgrade, and a brighter/higher contrast display but we know they ditched any efforts for the latter for sure.
 
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dgdosen

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How can these reviewers not be able to confirm jelly scrolling? They're probably not mini users.

I have a mini 6, and I've always said the 60Hz is more of an issue than jelly scrolling. If you're looking for it - it's easy to see - especially on a site with a long vertical display size and horizontal lines - like this forum. Depending on your iPad - you're going to see (again, if looking for it) in one of portrait or landscape.

I'd trust the Verge in noting it's still there. Any reviewer who can't definitively tell you? Why are you wasting your time watching/reading them?
 

Macalway

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LOVE this candor from The Verge:

All I see in this tablet is Apple knowing that people who love the Mini will keep buying the Mini no matter what, and thus doing absolutely nothing to make the product better in any real way

6/10 score is about right


These reviews.......

The good news is while I was typing this I got a notification that mine has shipped :)
 

klasma

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As I suspected three years ago when trying out the then-new mini 6, the screen actually had two issues: (1) the refresh orientation, (2) the display controller being subpar in a way that exacerbates the slanting “jelly” effect. It appears that they fixed the latter, but clearly not the former.

I’ll be waiting for the projected OLED model in 2027 in any case, the mini 5 is still great.
 

thadoggfather

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This is the best one I have seen near the start, looks a lot better to me in the comparison.

thats hopeful haha

it does look pretty decent in the one clip there but I dont understand any German :p

The slow mo video in another YouTube looked almost non existent changes, but maybe micro analysis makes it look that way but in practice it's a lot better? idk

honestly not sure tho lol on mini6 in portrait if you scroll small text against a white backdrop, like YouTube comments on Safari / mobile Youtube page, its hard to see jelly. its more noticeable when text is bigger and backdrop has contrast does it begin to jelly more.

The verdict isn't out I would say. I'll be curious to see demo units in store myself though .. for science
 
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JPack

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If you look at a teardown of iPad mini 6, you’ll see the display controller is attached to the long edge of the display assembly. There is space carved out in the chassis to accommodate it. To rotate the controller would require completely laying out the battery and logic board design again. There was no chance that was going to happen.

Apple likely did some minor software and hardware changes to minimize it, but I think eliminating it was always out of the question.
 

salz4life

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I haven't used the Mini 6 so forgive my ignorance on the situation.... but, how do you release a new version that doesn't 100% fix an issue like that? Just watching that YouTube video, I wouldn't have been able to take it on the 6 and even on the "improved" 7. That's bad.
 

thadoggfather

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I love these threads, based solely on YT posts or Reddit comments, where we can all just pick the hills we want to die on without having any first-hand information at all.

Tomorrow we’ll know with our own eyes at store or with shipped units

It is probably the most interesting part about this release whether it has it or not

Either way I probably wouldn’t upgrade for that alone especially if it’s just improved. I notice it on 6 but it doesn’t make me dizzy or anything. And still got my 5 also
 
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sracer

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In a few years Apple will eventually come around to fixing the jelly scrolling and those who claim it doesn't exist will applaud Apple for fixing it (something they said didn't exist in the first place)

When it's fixed, that is when I'll consider returning to the Mini.

Most of the time, when Apple appears to drag its feet, it's because of their contracts with parts suppliers which cover gargantuan guaranteed quantities to get rock-bottom prices per unit. It can take years and product generations to clear out those parts before new ones can be manufactured.
 
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