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Just got the 2018 MBP: Ask me anything
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After Flash died, basically all videos on the internet was compressed with H264. However, H264 doesn't really work for 4K and above.
To compress 4K videos, Apple is pushing for H265, while Google is pushing for VP9.
Modern devices have H265 hardware acceleration, so watching 4K H265 videos should be smooth and not drain the battery. However, Google have decided to have their 4k YouTube videos only in VP9.
To watch 4K YouTube on your Mac you will therefore need to use Chrome. Chrome actually shows all their videos (regardless of resolution) in VP9. Hardware acceleration of VP9 is not a thing yet, so Chrome will drain your battery more.
So use the Chrome engine to watch 4K YouTube (so Chrome on iOS is not enough, since it uses the Safari engine).
But don't forget that it will drain your battery more than with Safari, since all videos will be in VP9.
TV also can not watch YouTube in 4K, since it doesn't have VP9 support.
Watching 4K with Firefox is hit-or-miss depending on your machine.
The problem is however not only limited to YouTube. Want to watch Netflix in 4K on your computer? You will need Windows 10 and Microsoft Edge.
TLDL: You should stick watching 1080p...
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Thanks. I have a 49" 4K TV. If I get a chance to watch 4K YouTube videos, I want to. Usually I use Firefox as many years ago (over 10 years ago?), Firefox was the best browser for the Mac. So, it is better to use Chrome than Firefox and Safari to watch 4K videos on YouTube?
This is a good setup. Going to stick with my 2015 MBP with 16GB memory and 1TB drive only because I also have a TB2 dock from OWC. I'd have to replace it if I replaced my MBP and spent too much money 15 months ago to justify switching again.
I do have one final thought.
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!! Sounds like an awesome system and waiting to see how it compares on everyone's wish list of tests.
I do have one final thought.
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!! Sounds like an awesome system and waiting to see how it compares on everyone's wish list of tests.
My questions are the same as many others have asked... how is the heat under load and fan noise?
Wondered if you could figure out where the ambient light sensor is that affects the True Tone display please? Most importantly whether it's on the inside and will only function when the lid is opened, or whether it's on the outside and will work even when the lid is closed. You'd probably figure it out by just placing your hand over different parts of the laptop, or by shining a torch on different parts of the laptop to see if the screen adjusts.
If it's on the outside, then people that dock their MBP with the lid closed and use an external monitor will still be able to have the True Tone work on their external monitor. Thanks!
If it's on the outside, then people that dock their MBP with the lid closed and use an external monitor will still be able to have the True Tone work on their external monitor. Thanks!
Since those 10 years ago, Firefox has lost market share every single year. Usually that happens for a reason.
And if YouTube is the goal, have in mind that Google doesn't really treat Firefox that good (https://www.zdnet.com/article/firef...-google-to-treat-it-as-a-first-class-citizen/). I'd go for Chrome.
Depending on how you will watch YouTube on your TV, there are other alternatives than Chrome.
Some TV streamers (e.g. Roku and Chromecast Ultra) support 4K YouTube.
Also, many new TVs support it too.
This is a lie, man. Hardware acceleration of VP9 has been introduced since Kaby Lake (7-gen Intel CPU).
Watch this -
https://www.anandtech.com/show/1061...six-notebook-skus-desktop-coming-in-january/3
No matter what you use Chrome or Safari (both are using the same WebKit engine BTW) - all the 4K VP9 videos will be fully hardware accelerated on 7-gen and 8-gen CPUs.
An extremely passive aggressive one!
Google give then cash to seem to make sure that they’re the default search engine. I suspect that they also do it to make sure that they don’t get any antitrust cases against them re both search engine and browser dominance.
YT seem to always make their new features first available on Chrome (unsurprisingly) and usually give the excuse that Chrome has the best tech and that that they’ll implement it in other browsers when they catch up.
Except mac os doesn't expose the hardware acceleration of VP9 to the application layer, only h264/h265, unless something has changed.
yep, see: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=644951
Chrome no longer uses WebKit... Google forked off their own engine about five years ago called "Blink":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blink_(web_engine)
But Chrome is such bloatware. Anywho back on topic: first of all, thanks OP for this thread. I hope someone with the 15” will be equally kind 
I’d love to see screenshots and real time (not rendering) computing power stress test results
ie how well does it perform for live audio/video streaming with software monitoring and other things that rely on quick snappy non-throttling low buffer short round trip latency type of deal..
I’m not sure which test apps are best for that though?
I’d love to see screenshots and real time (not rendering) computing power stress test results
ie how well does it perform for live audio/video streaming with software monitoring and other things that rely on quick snappy non-throttling low buffer short round trip latency type of deal..
I’m not sure which test apps are best for that though?
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Congratulations!
How's heat management? Does it throttle under load quickly and does it get hot? What about fan noise?
It doesn't seem to get much more hot than my Late 2016 MacBook, but the fans do fire up as soon as the work load increases dramatically. It haven't experienced throttling so far
I would love to find out if the new CPU's help with Xcode build time...
Could anyone with a 2018 model follow the guide on https://github.com/ashfurrow/xcode-hardware-performance and get back to me?
Could anyone with a 2018 model follow the guide on https://github.com/ashfurrow/xcode-hardware-performance and get back to me?
Wondering the same myself.I would love to find out if the new CPU's help with Xcode build time...
Could anyone with a 2018 model follow the guide on https://github.com/ashfurrow/xcode-hardware-performance and get back to me?
Note on Apple's product MacBook page, they show compile time for WebKit under XCode to be 75% faster on the 13", and 50% faster on the 15". Would be nice to see an independent review though, of course.
https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/
I looked on the Apple Store website, configuring it to the same specs as OP pick up in store was available. Can’t wait to get mine by Fed Ex tomorrow.
I had the Late 2016 MacBook, and I loved the keyboard: I really enjoy the 2018–It's more silent.
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Apple Stores actually do have custom configs in store–It's just that it doesn't show up online available for a pickup. I went to the Apple Store Walden Galleria and they had a bunch
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Coming from the base CPU Late 2016 13" MacBook Pro TouchBar, it does get hot faster, but the fans manage.
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It gets way hotter than my old Late 2016 MacBook Pro under load obviously, and loud. But not burning hot
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I had a Late 2016 MacBook, so it's not a change for me.
I basically simply replaced all my USB-A to x by USB-C to x cables to avoid always having to use dongles, but still have a small Aukey USB-C to USB-A adapters for the rare times I have to plug something on my laptop (it is very rare).
I also have a Hyperdrive that includes a SD Card reader, HDMI port and a couple of USB-A ports
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I have upgraded from the Late 2016 MacBook, so besides the additional power, silent keyboard and T2 chip, there's not much difference for me