Mobile OSs Key Lime Pie?

[roxxette]

Looks like Babel has sprung a leak I know there have been leaked screens before that turned out to be fake. But this one looks real. Anyone think this is real?

http://www.techradar.com/news/inter...p-screenshots-confirm-babel-is-coming-1143254

Theres a Gentlemen here that can tell us but is up to him.

 

[The iGentleman]

Theres a Gentlemen here that can tell us but is up to him.

lol I see what you did there.

Let's just say, I doubt that author will be running any subsequent stories apologizing for that not being real.

 

[roxxette]

Why tha hell does it looks like using windows 98

 

[The iGentleman]

Why tha hell does it looks like using windows 98

What do you mean?

 

[roxxette]

What do you mean?

I mean the UI

 

[The iGentleman]

I mean the UI

It seems to me like it's more to do with how the pictures look since the person took a picture of their screen. It isn't a bad looking UI. Of course, that's just one platform...

 

[SlCKB0Y]

Didn't take me long on Android to realize the blue glowing bar meant "we're done." At least it shows everything.

Yea, me either. I guess it's just too complicated a concept for some.

More likely though - they have just been brain washed into the Apple way of doing this and in its absence, get confused.

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I mean the UI

In what way does it look like Windows 98?

 

[roxxette]

Yea, me either. I guess it's just too complicated a concept for some.

More likely though - they have just been brain washed into the Apple way of doing this and in its absence, get confused.

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In what way does it look like Windows 98?

Must be my ****ed up mind

 

[animalx]

In what way does it look like Windows 98?

I just want to know if these leaks are real since the leaked pictures from before turned out to be fake. I want to know if it's legit this time.

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Must be my ****ed up mind

So do you think the pics are real?

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lol I see what you did there.

Let's just say, I doubt that author will be running any subsequent stories apologizing for that not being real.

What makes this time any different than the other leaks that turned out to be fake?

 

[roxxette]

If you ask me il say legit

 

[animalx]

If you ask me il say legit

Why do you think it's legit? I hope a Babel apk leaks soon. That would be great.

 

[roxxette]

Why do you think it's legit? I hope a Babel apk leaks soon. That would be great.

I think its a big deal for Google, doubt the apk will be available ahead of time

 

[SlCKB0Y]

I think its a big deal for Google, doubt the apk will be available ahead of time

Then again, there have been many instances where a particular APK has leaked before the Android version release.

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Must be my ****ed up mind

Haha, nah, I just meant people become accustomed to a certain way of doing things.

An example would be people calling the Windows 8 start screen unintuitive compared to the start menu.... but their familiarity with the start menu biases them against the start screen even though the one is not necessarily more intuitive than the other.

People seem to easily confuse intuitiveness with familiarity.

 

[The iGentleman]

Then again, there have been many instances where a particular APK has leaked before the Android version release.

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That's true, but as of right now, even if it did leak, you wouldn't be able to use it. It would be useless.

 

[Tinmania]

Looks like Babel has sprung a leak I know there have been leaked screens before that turned out to be fake. But this one looks real. Anyone think this is real?

http://www.techradar.com/news/inter...p-screenshots-confirm-babel-is-coming-1143254

Ugh.... not liking it. It still seems like a hodgepodge of services. Hangout, Google+b needed for photos... They need a messaging app like iMessage. Also don't like the UI. A whole screen for, what seems to be, barely a few sentence fragments worth of messages?

Finally, WTF is wrong with Google about not supporting traditional emoji. I hate--and I mean HATE--the bastardized Androidified emoticons. What the heck were they thinking with that? For that matter why did they ever do the stupid black-and-white subset of emoji in the first place--made worse by the fact that it is Androidified. Ugh.




Michael

 

[The iGentleman]

Ugh.... not liking it. It still seems like a hodgepodge of services. Hangout, Google+b needed for photos...

That isn't at all how it works. It isn't like you need different services to do different things.

They need a messaging app like iMessage.

This is much more robust than iMessage. If it was anything like iMessage, it would be a pretty big step back from what it is.

Also don't like the UI.

You're entitled to your opinion of course, though I don't think you can really judge the gmail version of the UI on those shots, as though don't show much.

A whole screen for, what seems to be, barely a few sentence fragments worth of messages?
Michael

That is not a whole screen.

 

[fr4c]

Wasn't there mention that they're investing heavily into the camera, and picture taking quality of the next series of devices/OS?

 

[Tinmania]

That isn't at all how it works. It isn't like you need different services to do different things.


This is much more robust than iMessage. If it was anything like iMessage, it would be a pretty big step back from what it is.


You're entitled to your opinion of course, though I don't think you can really judge the gmail version of the UI on those shots, as though don't show much.


That is not a whole screen.

I hope you are right, especially if by more robust you mean it has everything iMessage/Messages already has (such as being able to use phone number, use SMS if the other party doesn't use it, etc.).



Michael

 

[The iGentleman]

I hope you are right, especially if by more robust you mean it has everything iMessage/Messages already has (such as being able to use phone number, use SMS if the other party doesn't use it, etc.).



Michael

It doesn't have anything to do with SMS. What you have to understand is, Babel and iMessage are two totally different things. iMessage is basically just a barebones instant messenger that is tied into a phone number. It does really have any features at all, and is pretty plain. Babel is something a bit different.

 

[Tinmania]

It doesn't have anything to do with SMS. What you have to understand is, Babel and iMessage are two totally different things. iMessage is basically just a barebones instant messenger that is tied into a phone number. It does really have any features at all, and is pretty plain. Babel is something a bit different.

Yes but with iMessage I was able to use the same app to communicate with people who had iMessage, and those who didn't. With Babel it will only be useful if the other party has it too, which limits its usefulness to me. It's not much different than what I have to do now, using SMS, whatsapp, and fb--adding yet another to the mix. I was hoping I could go back to primarily one app for messages, as I did with Messages on my iPhone.

Oh well.




Michael

 

[The iGentleman]

Yes but with iMessage I was able to use the same app to communicate with people who had iMessage, and those who didn't. With Babel it will only be useful if the other party has it too, which limits its usefulness to me. It's not much different than what I have to do now, using SMS, whatsapp, and fb--adding yet another to the mix. I was hoping I could go back to primarily one app for messages, as I did with Messages on my iPhone.

Oh well.




Michael

iMessages, like I said is not the same thing. iMessages is only useful if you are sending a text message to another iPhone user. As for the text part of it, that's just sms. iMessages just happens to be in that app. It's usefulness is still quite limited as it doesn't have any real group conversations (it's half-baked attempt at it is horrible), no video chatting, no group video chatting, can't add phone callers to a video chat, can't start rooms, etc. There is much that iMessages cannot do. Babel on the other hand is much deeper and much more robust, it just doesn't include SMS (at least not right now anyway). IMO Babel is much more useful than iMessages, and it isn't even close.

 

[onthecouchagain]

Wasn't there mention that they're investing heavily into the camera, and picture taking quality of the next series of devices/OS?

Yup. Hopefully.

 

[mattopotamus]

Yes but with iMessage I was able to use the same app to communicate with people who had iMessage, and those who didn't. With Babel it will only be useful if the other party has it too, which limits its usefulness to me. It's not much different than what I have to do now, using SMS, whatsapp, and fb--adding yet another to the mix. I was hoping I could go back to primarily one app for messages, as I did with Messages on my iPhone.

Oh well.




Michael

I understand where you are coming from. Why babel may incorporate all of these features into 1 device, it still will require other users to download an app....unlike imessage which will still send an SMS if people do not have iphones. It won't be a big deal for people who have android devices since you can pick your default apps, but someone who has an iphone may not find it as seamless.

 

[The iGentleman]

I understand where you are coming from. Why babel may incorporate all of these features into 1 device, it still will require other users to download an app....unlike imessage which will still send an SMS if people do not have iphones. It won't be a big deal for people who have android devices since you can pick your default apps, but someone who has an iphone may not find it as seamless.

If I'm using a computer and someone sends me something on iMessage, I just won't get it. If someone wants to start a real group conversation on iMessage, they will need to download an app because it lacks that capability. If someone wants to start a video chat with me on iMessage, they will need an app because it lacks that capability. Sure, they can send a text message to a person that doesn't have an iPhone, but that's been possible for a couple decades and truly is nothing special nor worth touting. iMessage is extremely vanilla and isn't very useful except under very specific circumstances (where both users have an iPhone), and even then there isn't very much benefit to it. Babel is a completely different animal.

 

[jrswizzle]

If I'm using a computer and someone sends me something on iMessage, I just won't get it. If someone wants to start a real group conversation on iMessage, they will need to download an app because it lacks that capability. If someone wants to start a video chat with me on iMessage, they will need an app because it lacks that capability. Sure, they can send a text message to a person that doesn't have an iPhone, but that's been possible for a couple decades and truly is nothing special nor worth touting. iMessage is extremely vanilla and isn't very useful except under very specific circumstances (where both users have an iPhone), and even then there isn't very much benefit to it. Babel is a completely different animal.

What do you mean by "real group conversation"? I find iMessage does group messages plenty fine.

And all those things you mention - iMessage may be more "vanilla", but it hits the most popular feature - seamless SMS/MMS over wifi. That's my biggest need/reason I really like iMessage - I find that reason alone adds infinitely more benefit than a button for group video messaging that I'll never use.

Don't get me wrong, I'm extremely excited to see what Babel will offer - just hoped it would merge ALL messaging (including standard SMS) into one place that would work cross-platform.....if that's not the case, I'll likely never download it and continue to use the stock SMS app as that is what I do my messaging on 100% of the time.

A big pet-peeve of mine is having multiple apps with essentially the same function.....I want ONE that finds my sports scores, ONE that allows me to message people. Video chat can fall under "calling" - which is why it is merged with the phone/call function (ability to facetime from the call menu).

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Yes but with iMessage I was able to use the same app to communicate with people who had iMessage, and those who didn't. With Babel it will only be useful if the other party has it too, which limits its usefulness to me. It's not much different than what I have to do now, using SMS, whatsapp, and fb--adding yet another to the mix. I was hoping I could go back to primarily one app for messages, as I did with Messages on my iPhone.

Oh well.




Michael

Agreed - really just comes down to the stock messaging app being relatively poor. iMessage - even in its "vanilla" state - is infinitely more useful, if only for the fact that it works 100% better and faster.

Was hoping Babel would incorporate SMS into it's fold, but I guess that isn't the case, which means I likely won't bother downloading it - don't generally need/want to group video chat.....