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Ladies Only Thread... Accessories and more
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Hello Ladies,
I have confirmed after emailing customer service for Pad and Quill they will offer a version of the Lowry Cuff band for the 38 MM Apple Watch in a few months. I'm excited because the version for the 42 MM AW is sized to fit wrists 125-150 MM. I have a tiny wrist and the knock off leather cuff I got from eBay a few months ago can't be worn b/c it's still too big and locks. I'm hoping it comes out sooner rather than later. - here's a link for the 42 MM version that's currently being offered -http://www.padandquill.com/lowry-leather-cuff-for-apple-watch.html
Cheers,
Bobbie
I have confirmed after emailing customer service for Pad and Quill they will offer a version of the Lowry Cuff band for the 38 MM Apple Watch in a few months. I'm excited because the version for the 42 MM AW is sized to fit wrists 125-150 MM. I have a tiny wrist and the knock off leather cuff I got from eBay a few months ago can't be worn b/c it's still too big and locks. I'm hoping it comes out sooner rather than later. - here's a link for the 42 MM version that's currently being offered -http://www.padandquill.com/lowry-leather-cuff-for-apple-watch.html
Cheers,
Bobbie
It's wild. It's psychedelic. It's the kaleidoscope (Wonhot) band from HOCO 
On a darker surface.
Swapped in a pair of Space Black adapters.
Verdict: I really like the band. It's funky. I'm actually considering putting the silver adapters back in. I wanted to see how the black would look, but I think I like the silver contrast better here.
Only negative I really have to say is the adapter on the half of the band that had the buckle on it took an unusual amount of force to get it in and out of the watch. I wasn't using all my strength or anything, but it didn't slide right in, like many bands do. Could just be the one I received though.
On a darker surface.
Swapped in a pair of Space Black adapters.
Verdict: I really like the band. It's funky. I'm actually considering putting the silver adapters back in. I wanted to see how the black would look, but I think I like the silver contrast better here.
Only negative I really have to say is the adapter on the half of the band that had the buckle on it took an unusual amount of force to get it in and out of the watch. I wasn't using all my strength or anything, but it didn't slide right in, like many bands do. Could just be the one I received though.
I always try to remember when inserting my band to hold the band adapter on the downward tilt angle that the channel has and to depress the middle button to help ease it in. Figure it puts less stress on the adapter.
[doublepost=1454109012][/doublepost]BTW so if you changed adapters already, were the Hoco ones thread locked in? Apple recommends that plus using new screws each time you install your band on the classic adapters.
[doublepost=1454109012][/doublepost]BTW so if you changed adapters already, were the Hoco ones thread locked in? Apple recommends that plus using new screws each time you install your band on the classic adapters.
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Yeah, I think I actually realized things generally go in easier that way, when I was trying to put this together, lol.
I don't know what you mean by "thread locked in". They were like the two other pairs of adapters I have ordered. Just unscrew and screw.
New screws? I'm really not going to worry about that, lol. It's enough to have to buy multiple pairs of adapters, but now to be concerned about screws, that must be thrown away each time, and you're saying some kind of thread is being recommended? I really don't see the need. Everything is nice and tight
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Thread lock/threadlocker (like Loctite) needs to be applied to the small threads on the Classic (tube) style adapter or the screws will come out with vibration...and your watch will fall off. Plenty of examples here on the Forum about it happening to people. I know you are fairly new to Apple Watch and band buying that's why I brought it up. Hate to see someone unaware and damage their watch.
Thread lock is used in all kinds of industries (car, electronics) to secure screws/bolts into parts that are subjected to vibration and movement. An adhesive, kind of a super glue. It comes in many levels of hold, some that will allow you to remove the screw and others that make it permanent. Most people here are using a blue loctite but some have experience failure on their adapaters/band with blue and said they are going with red. Red is permanent so you'd be cutting the band off the adapter if there's a problem with the adapter at some point or you want to change adapter colors. So far I haven't used a classic adapter, just the spring pin ones so sure someone else here can fill you in with their experiences.
Apple recommends not reusing thread locked screws and replacing them with new ones. The old threadlocker will adhere to the screw and you won't get a good surface to seal if you try apply more so it really is an important aspect.
Here's the pdf that Apple has for their Developers (everything you ever wanted to know about your watch and band and adapter essentially): https://developer.apple.com/watch/bands/Band-Design-Guidelines-for-Apple-Watch.pdf Page 8, Figure 2.2 under Section 2.3 Apple Watch Lug shows the adapter with threadlocker and screw replacement language.
Actually I see this is Revision 3 now and on Page 9, Item #4 it says to apply Loctite 435 to the screw threads. Loctite 435 is clear BTW. http://www.loctite.co.uk/loctite-4087.htm?nodeid=8802626043905 The Design Guidelines also now specifies the pentalope screwdriver within the document.
People should also be aware that while we've been buying third party adapters from overseas for a while since Apple hadn't yet authorized any, there is a wholesale authorized company, Avnet, that sells the required parts. Authorized Apple Classic Lugs will have "Made for Apple Watch" on them (see photo): https://mfi.avnet.com/lug/index.html#/home
Thread lock is used in all kinds of industries (car, electronics) to secure screws/bolts into parts that are subjected to vibration and movement. An adhesive, kind of a super glue. It comes in many levels of hold, some that will allow you to remove the screw and others that make it permanent. Most people here are using a blue loctite but some have experience failure on their adapaters/band with blue and said they are going with red. Red is permanent so you'd be cutting the band off the adapter if there's a problem with the adapter at some point or you want to change adapter colors. So far I haven't used a classic adapter, just the spring pin ones so sure someone else here can fill you in with their experiences.
Apple recommends not reusing thread locked screws and replacing them with new ones. The old threadlocker will adhere to the screw and you won't get a good surface to seal if you try apply more so it really is an important aspect.
Here's the pdf that Apple has for their Developers (everything you ever wanted to know about your watch and band and adapter essentially): https://developer.apple.com/watch/bands/Band-Design-Guidelines-for-Apple-Watch.pdf Page 8, Figure 2.2 under Section 2.3 Apple Watch Lug shows the adapter with threadlocker and screw replacement language.
Actually I see this is Revision 3 now and on Page 9, Item #4 it says to apply Loctite 435 to the screw threads. Loctite 435 is clear BTW. http://www.loctite.co.uk/loctite-4087.htm?nodeid=8802626043905 The Design Guidelines also now specifies the pentalope screwdriver within the document.
People should also be aware that while we've been buying third party adapters from overseas for a while since Apple hadn't yet authorized any, there is a wholesale authorized company, Avnet, that sells the required parts. Authorized Apple Classic Lugs will have "Made for Apple Watch" on them (see photo): https://mfi.avnet.com/lug/index.html#/home
How come you are not replying to my posts? I'm going to miss your posts.
Are you saying the spring adapters don't have any issue like this?
Are you saying the spring adapters don't have any issue like this?
I did, above. Maybe I was logged off when you posted? Did you read my post above? I told you about threadlocker above. If you are going to assemble your own bands with the 3rd party classic style adapters you need to read about this stuff and be aware of it. Also if you read through some of the various threads on the accessories forum area here you will see that even some people who have bought 3rd party bands that came with adapters have had adapter failures. They've posted photos and shared their experiences. Clearly not all these vendors are using threadlocker if the screws fall out.
As far as the little screws, it is very easy to strip them as many have found out. That's probably another reason Apple recommends replacing them if they were previously screwed in and then unscrewed.
And no if you buy an adapter that uses a spring pin there are no screws. Works just like a regular watch lug with spring pins. Many people here have felt it's simpler to use and maybe safer option. Check out the adapter threads to see the comparisons.
I know you're fairly new here so am trying to help out if you haven't read about these things yet. We're all learning from each others experiences with adapters so reading the threads can be helpful.
I appreciate you telling me. I may just leave it though. I don't have many pairs of adapters, so I change like every 2 days. Screws are always nice and tight. I've seen a few posts just now about regular adapters breaking and a few of the spring bar adapters breaking. I'd probably personally be more paranoid about those, because those don't have screws, so I probably won't buy any.
I think it really comes down to having a bad adapter, and not checking it. I'll have to buy an adapter nearly every time I buy a 3rd party band, and use this loctite stuff, but I don't think I'll get into all that :/
Besides, worse comes to worst, my AppleCare+ is there.
I think it really comes down to having a bad adapter, and not checking it. I'll have to buy an adapter nearly every time I buy a 3rd party band, and use this loctite stuff, but I don't think I'll get into all that :/
Besides, worse comes to worst, my AppleCare+ is there.
Certainly your choice. I have Apple Care+ as well but it's still an extra $70 (sport watch) or $80 (AW) cost out of pocket for the repair. The Loctite 435 is rather expensive given the 20mL size and is harder to find (found some on ebay) but I personally would rather pay $25 now for securing a number of bands to a classic 3rd party watch adapter than shell out $80 each for one or two accidents. To me it's a preventable accident versus a clumsy one should I hit a corner of a doorway with it or drop it to a tiled floor.
Regarding the spring pin adapters. Very expensive watches have been using spring pins for decades so I do feel it is a very reliable attachment system. Don't know what happened to those people who have experienced problems with their Apple watch and spring pin adapters, but if the spring pin is bent it won't sit right and should be replaced. I can also see people not locking that spring pin end into the hole completely and the band gets jerked and the pin pops out. When I set mine up I always give it few testing tugs from a few directions to make sure it's completely set. In testing mine I've on occasion had the band pop out so I know it does happen. I've read some adapters don't have visible holes on the end and like the look but I prefer to use the adapters that have the holes to verify the pin's placement. Also if you need to remove the band, you can use your tool to push the pin in the hole to compress the spring and release the pin as opposed to trying to compress and pry it out from the band ends where you could end up bending the pin. Spring pins are not expensive; and they are easy to replace, those little screws however are not. Some vendors will give you a few extra but I'm not sure where you could buy them.
Regarding the spring pin adapters. Very expensive watches have been using spring pins for decades so I do feel it is a very reliable attachment system. Don't know what happened to those people who have experienced problems with their Apple watch and spring pin adapters, but if the spring pin is bent it won't sit right and should be replaced. I can also see people not locking that spring pin end into the hole completely and the band gets jerked and the pin pops out. When I set mine up I always give it few testing tugs from a few directions to make sure it's completely set. In testing mine I've on occasion had the band pop out so I know it does happen. I've read some adapters don't have visible holes on the end and like the look but I prefer to use the adapters that have the holes to verify the pin's placement. Also if you need to remove the band, you can use your tool to push the pin in the hole to compress the spring and release the pin as opposed to trying to compress and pry it out from the band ends where you could end up bending the pin. Spring pins are not expensive; and they are easy to replace, those little screws however are not. Some vendors will give you a few extra but I'm not sure where you could buy them.
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I'll keep thinking about it. I'm cool with paying $80 to fix something I don't think will ever happen, because I regularly inspect things, but maybe it won't be that much of a hassle to use that stuff.
Just ordered some black spring adapters. It's coming with the tool used to remove buckles, so maybe I will get into that too.
Just ordered some black spring adapters. It's coming with the tool used to remove buckles, so maybe I will get into that too.
New band --- arrow and board split double tour in chestnut brown. It's love.
[doublepost=1455749679][/doublepost]Jmona, I sure miss you. Are you settled in yet? Where in CA are you? I sure hope you are feeling okay.
I just received my Clockwork Synergy red Nato band. I love the looks of it... but even swapping the bands the "wrong" way the buckle is hurting my wrist when i'm at my desk. I'm apparently developing RA - and so the buckle hits in the wrong spot. I had to turn my sport band around too.
BUT, I live in FL and do Disney when I can - I wanted something not "plastic" to help with the heat/sweat. I guess i will wear this when out and about - and not at home?
If you guys know of any "low profile" buckles that don't break the bank feel free to share. I have a 42mm, I look like a dork with the 38 on! LOL
I enjoyed all your pictures before I decided on what to order!
BUT, I live in FL and do Disney when I can - I wanted something not "plastic" to help with the heat/sweat. I guess i will wear this when out and about - and not at home?
If you guys know of any "low profile" buckles that don't break the bank feel free to share. I have a 42mm, I look like a dork with the 38 on! LOL
I enjoyed all your pictures before I decided on what to order!
I just received my Clockwork Synergy red Nato band. I love the looks of it... but even swapping the bands the "wrong" way the buckle is hurting my wrist when i'm at my desk. I'm apparently developing RA - and so the buckle hits in the wrong spot. I had to turn my sport band around too.
BUT, I live in FL and do Disney when I can - I wanted something not "plastic" to help with the heat/sweat. I guess i will wear this when out and about - and not at home?
If you guys know of any "low profile" buckles that don't break the bank feel free to share. I have a 42mm, I look like a dork with the 38 on! LOL
I enjoyed all your pictures before I decided on what to order!
Can I see how your wrist is positioned that it's hurting? I've got some Clockwork Synergy Nato bands and I don't have that issue.
Oh it is a personal issue - i wouldn't expect anyone else to have that issue. Just resting my arm on a desk hurts if there is anything near my wrist on that outer portion. The loops to hold the band down are the issue.
The yellow arrow points to my pain area, the other picture is how my wrist sits a the desk to avoid pain when typing.
I have not done pictures on here with this new to me forum stuff... ye gads, I hope they work! LOL
Have you tried spreading the buckles like this? I find the weight is evenly distributed. I took the watch off and put the band on the way you had it, and there seemed to be some pressure going into a point on my wrist.
That buckle you have on the right side is right where my pain/swelling is for the RA (rheumatoid arthritis), anything there hurts... mousepad, pencil, paper, so it isn't an issue with the band - it is my body. The Apple Sport band hurt just as much in the same spot.Have you tried spreading the buckles like this? I find the weight is evenly distributed. I took the watch off and put the band on the way you had it, and there seemed to be some pressure going into a point on my wrist.
You convinced me. Bought a band from there in Desert Tan. Can hardly wait for it to get here. I'm wondering a little though. Does the chestnut brown in-person look like the same color on the site? It looks a little lighter in that picture.
Question I'm a newbie is this the silver sport that comes with the white band? The Milanese compliments it so nicely. By the way Happy Birthday!
Yes, my watch originally came with the white sports band. I switch bands depending on what I'm wearing
Couple of pics of my ceramic band.
I also did a video review.
Have a nice weekend!