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The Game 161

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Dec 15, 2010
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Ok. Are you going to post ANYTHING constructive or is this the total knowledge you have on the subject?

For instance. In my extended family (grandparents, brothers, sisters, nephews etc) there 18 phones of which 5 are Iphones. The rest are Android of various types, sizes and ages. Only one person who owns an Android phone knows what a "launcher" is, or what "touchwiz" is, never mind understanding rooting and roms. These are the usual owners of Android phones - they don't root, they even change the launcher because they don't know how and don't see the point. They are quite happy with what came with the phone when they bought it.

The average Android user you get on this forum makes up a tiny percentage of the android market so don't judge based on this community.

So for 99% of Android users "tweaking" is moving the clock widget up a row , or adding a calendar to a second page. that's it. The other points about Ios being the best OS available - Well that's all subjective and perfectly fine, but it's an opinion, and not fact.
Agreed

Most people who have the S7/S7 edge at work would look at you funny if you asked them what launcher you have on your phone or if he asked how you are finding touchwiz.
 

N0ddie

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Oct 23, 2011
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My wife has just switched from iPhone 6 to Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge after having iPhones every year from the iPhone 3G. I expected her to regret the change but she hasn't. Though owning an iMac (And other Apple devices) does make it tricky/less straightforward to put stuff onto the phone. I got there in the end though and have pre-ordered myself a Note 7 for release.

As for her losing iMessage? She (And everyone else we know) used Whatsapp since it became available as it is cross platform. I dont know of anyone within our relatives/circle of friends that use iMessage when Whatsapp is better.
 

nrvna76

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Aug 4, 2010
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Seriously considering the note 7. I'm starting to feel like Apple is trying to bleed me dry with constant reminders to upgrade iCloud and constant offers for Apple Music. They not only want the premium for their devices but want me to pay them monthly as well. Could be the same on the other side though idk.
 
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5105973

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I can't imagine Android is too onerous to manage if my daughter's technophobe 60-something years old first grade teacher could adapt so readily after giving up her very old bare bones flip phone. She got a Samsung Galaxy of some kind and was enthusiastically showing me all the things she loved about it. She seemed very comfortable and adept with it. She had had it for about a year and a half at the time she showed it off to me when I admired it. She had liked my iPhone 5s a lot when I volunteered in her class and used my iPhone to take pics of her kids. That was what spurred her on to finally ditch her flip phone. She ended up with Android because she liked the widgets and it was less expensive.
 

lowendlinux

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Sep 24, 2014
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I can't imagine Android is too onerous to manage if my daughter's technophobe 60-something years old first grade teacher could adapt so readily after giving up her very old bare bones flip phone. She got a Samsung Galaxy of some kind and was enthusiastically showing me all the things she loved about it. She seemed very comfortable and adept with it. She had had it for about a year and a half at the time she showed it off to me when I admired it. She had liked my iPhone 5s a lot when I volunteered in her class and used my iPhone to take pics of her kids. That was what spurred her on to finally ditch her flip phone. She ended up with Android because she liked the widgets and it was less expensive.
Ehh but it crashes like every 30 minutes and its animations are like 5fps amirite..thats Android
 

dogslobber

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Oct 19, 2014
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Have many of you left the iPhone but had everything else Apple and still loved the Android phone? Or did you try it and go back?

The problem isn't the phone hardware but the software. Android is a piece of crap no matter how they change it. That's why I stick with the iPhone and iPad. OS X is the reason I stick with the Mac as common sense says you wouldn't trust Windows with your banking information.

Things like Apple TV is a toy in my book, so I use a Mac mini for streaming. The iWatch is a joke. Steve would be disgust with the iWatch. As for an iCar, absolutely not.
 

C7 POWER

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agreed, just because you change phones doesn't mean you have to leave apple completely. the ipad is still the best tablets around from experience to apps. I will enjoy IOS 10 on my ipad so you can still stay with the OS updates. I will try just running with my note 7 going forward and see how much I miss the IOS on a daily basics but still having a macbook and ipad means i enjoy the best of both worlds.

I have no plans to get rid of our iPads, Macbook Pro, Apple TV;s, etc just the phone :)
 

admob71

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Exactly. It's truly the best operating system that doesn't require a lot of hand holding and setting up and tweaking like android. It's just reliable.
You missed off, in your opinion. My 71 yr old mother had an android phone and tablet , loves them, I gave her the heads up once about the basics. She hasn't looked back. No tweaking, no fiddling, just as it came out of the box.
Oh and this superior reliability thing is a myth. IOS had more app crashes than Android.. Google it...
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The problem isn't the phone hardware but the software. Android is a piece of crap no matter how they change it. That's why I stick with the iPhone and iPad. OS X is the reason I stick with the Mac as common sense says you wouldn't trust Windows with your banking information.

Things like Apple TV is a toy in my book, so I use a Mac mini for streaming. The iWatch is a joke. Steve would be disgust with the iWatch. As for an iCar, absolutely not.
Oh dear, oh dear. You know some folk think the same of ios...
 
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jamesrick80

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The problem isn't the phone hardware but the software. Android is a piece of crap no matter how they change it. That's why I stick with the iPhone and iPad. OS X is the reason I stick with the Mac as common sense says you wouldn't trust Windows with your banking information.

Things like Apple TV is a toy in my book, so I use a Mac mini for streaming. The iWatch is a joke. Steve would be disgust with the iWatch. As for an iCar, absolutely not.
I can do more with android than any iOS device...i just find this laughable
 

Fille84

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The problem isn't the phone hardware but the software. Android is a piece of crap no matter how they change it. That's why I stick with the iPhone and iPad. OS X is the reason I stick with the Mac as common sense says you wouldn't trust Windows with your banking information.

Things like Apple TV is a toy in my book, so I use a Mac mini for streaming. The iWatch is a joke. Steve would be disgust with the iWatch. As for an iCar, absolutely not.
Freedom isn't crap in my book. And don't bring up the old stuff like its laggy, apps crashes and so on because thats not the case anymore, and hasn't been the last few years.
 

Loco Emperor

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Freedom isn't crap in my book. And don't bring up the old stuff like its laggy, apps crashes and so on because thats not the case anymore, and hasn't been the last few years.
So the last two out of 7 years android finally got it right ( They haven't as I have been using various incarnations and models they simply have better managed the crap performance and software issues so it isn't as colossal failure like pre lollipop on many device )

Freedom is not crap. But too much freedom and too much openness is just as bad as Apple with their closed mentality. There's no balance of the two extremes.
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I can do more with android than any iOS device...i just find this laughable
I find your statement laughable. While you can do more allegedly with an android device (one can argue you technically can jailbreak to do much of the same and iOS 10 brings in even more capabilities)...what I do on android phone is consistently and better executed on iPhone.
 

admob71

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So the last two out of 7 years android finally got it right ( They haven't as I have been using various incarnations and models they simply have better managed the crap performance and software issues so it isn't as colossal failure like pre lollipop on many device )

Freedom is not crap. But too much freedom and too much openness is just as bad as Apple with their closed mentality. There's no balance of the two extremes.
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I find your statement laughable. While you can do more allegedly with an android device (one can argue you technically can jailbreak to do much of the same and iOS 10 brings in even more capabilities)...what I do on android phone is consistently and better executed on iPhone.
What?.. go on Facebook... lol
 

C7 POWER

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If I do keep the Note, since my iPhone will also have a sim with my number can I just turn one off and use the other if I want to swap between the 2 phones?
 

HiDEF

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Jun 23, 2010
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If I do keep the Note, since my iPhone will also have a sim with my number can I just turn one off and use the other if I want to swap between the 2 phones?
You would have to switch the Sim from one device to the other, that's all.

You also need to turn off iMessage before switching to your Android device.
 
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JonMan McFly

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Jun 6, 2015
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I had the opportunity to re-evaluate the iPhone when my employer handed me a brand new shiny galaxy S7 edge. The hardware blew me away, so I couldn't help but swap the SIM from my iPhone 6 to the galaxy. The s7 edge is, undoubtedly, the best looking phone out there. The screen pops like no other.

I really wanted to give the galaxy a fair shot, so I used it for a full week. But I kept on experiencing, over and over again, how bad android is in real life use. Among other things, the keyboard isn't as precise, there are dozens of "add ons" for apps (and I'm not sure what purpose they serve), the contact organization is a complete disaster, the fingerprint sensor never worked, and the "ok google" assistant was the most frustrating experience I've ever had (it doesn't activate when the screen is off; what's the point of this thing?!!).

Android is just not as polished as iOS. Anyone who doesn't see that just lacks an eye for detail.
 

dogslobber

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Oct 19, 2014
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Freedom isn't crap in my book. And don't bring up the old stuff like its laggy, apps crashes and so on because thats not the case anymore, and hasn't been the last few years.

No need to get so defensive when I'm merely stating my opinion. Mind you, does Google not take Freedom to the extreme? I mean, did they not just lose a litigation issue due to not paying for using java in Android?
 

Savor

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No regrets since 2013.

I buys cheap enough phones that prevents me from having any regrets or buyer's remorse. Multi-platform, multiple wielding phone user here. I actually an NO LONGER considering getting anymore phones. Five is enough. I figured it like this -

$29.99 - Microsoft Lumia 640 & Motorola Moto E2 4G

$60 for two phones that can do 90% tasks or $500-$650 for a single iPhone when users who don't even have a clue how to utilize its faster SoC and potential like I did with every phone I ever had? I really could care less using smartphones for kiddies when iOS is a kiddie OS to me anyway. Lumia 640 has a camera on par with an iPhone 5 and beats out any camera from 4s and before. The Moto E2 is more useful to me than any iPhone up to 6 because it has a "4.5 display and way more comfortable to grip. And its battery life beats every iPhone except SE.

An iPhone can't download movies from torrent sites. I even considered getting a $245 AT&T GoPhone iPhone 5s but figured my $245 Xiaomi Mi 3 from July 2014 is still much better. I just updated to MIUI 7 and Marshmallow 6.0.1 the other night and it looks way better than a typical 5s homescreen. After two years, maybe smoother and fast now than when I first got it which had MIUI 5 and KitKat 4.4.2. Xiaomi really tweaks MIUI on every kernel. Xiaomi updated it longer than Google does to their Nexus devices.

*yawn* iOS just bores the hell outta me. I figured why buy anymore phones like an iPhone 7 when an iPad 2 is practically like owning an iPhone! And so many phones drop value anyway. I saw a Note 4 go for under $200 a few days ago. Say the iPhone 8 gets a flashy new design next year. After the luster wears off which it will, back to using same restrictive iOS that will bore the hell out of people.

Paying over $400 for a smartphones is a waste of money. Even over $200 is pushing it. The real horse power comes from the user's mind. What are you capable of doing with it. Note 7 looks cool though but nah. Nokia Android is something I will wait for. After you try out all mobile OSes, they are practically all the same thing. App launchers. You open an app. Close it. Sync it to iTunes. Redundant design and habits using any smartphone. *yawn*

The gadget that has my interest now isn't a smartphone but a gaming system. Nintendo NX or maybe a PS4 Neo....?
 
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LIVEFRMNYC

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Oct 27, 2009
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I had the opportunity to re-evaluate the iPhone when my employer handed me a brand new shiny galaxy S7 edge. The hardware blew me away, so I couldn't help but swap the SIM from my iPhone 6 to the galaxy. The s7 edge is, undoubtedly, the best looking phone out there. The screen pops like no other.

I really wanted to give the galaxy a fair shot, so I used it for a full week. But I kept on experiencing, over and over again, how bad android is in real life use. Among other things, the keyboard isn't as precise, there are dozens of "add ons" for apps (and I'm not sure what purpose they serve), the contact organization is a complete disaster, the fingerprint sensor never worked, and the "ok google" assistant was the most frustrating experience I've ever had (it doesn't activate when the screen is off; what's the point of this thing?!!).

Android is just not as polished as iOS. Anyone who doesn't see that just lacks an eye for detail.

You complete lost me at "the fingerprint sensor never worked". Not even going to comment on the rest. Try to fabricate your stories a little better.
 

slu

macrumors 68000
Sep 15, 2004
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The only thing I really miss is visual voicemail.

Try Google Voice with Hangouts for Visual Voice mail with transcription. It is not the same as Apple's implementation, but it does the same thing. And you can use it with your carrier number.
 

Mildredop

macrumors 68020
Oct 14, 2013
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Try Google Voice with Hangouts for Visual Voice mail with transcription. It is not the same as Apple's implementation, but it does the same thing. And you can use it with your carrier number.

I think I'm right in saying that's US only?
 

lowendlinux

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Sep 24, 2014
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No need to get so defensive when I'm merely stating my opinion. Mind you, does Google not take Freedom to the extreme? I mean, did they not just lose a litigation issue due to not paying for using java in Android?
They won that bit of litigation last I read OFC its probably been appealed again.
 
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