Let's get one thing straight, Apple software quality is no where as good as it used to be!

[fisherking]

Motorola? I use Motorola and it had no bloat on it. They basically have stock Android on their phones.
Why do many people on this forum act as if Samsung and Pixel were your only choices? Android market is full of many choices and therefore you can't really judge Android as easily as you can iOS. Motorola also supports their software longer than for example Sony. I was disappointed with Sony's support for real.

if we're talking about OSes, you can judge android 'as easily as you can iOS'. if you're comparing hardware (ie a samsung phone vs an iphone), that's a different story...

 

[panzer06]

Motorola? I use Motorola and it had no bloat on it. They basically have stock Android on their phones.
Why do many people on this forum act as if Samsung and Pixel were your only choices? Android market is full of many choices and therefore you can't really judge Android as easily as you can iOS. Motorola also supports their software longer than for example Sony. I was disappointed with Sony's support for real.

When i want a test Android platform it's always a pixel or Moto. But lack of updates beyond 2 years is always a turnoff.

 

[dk001]

When i want a test Android platform it's always a pixel or Moto. But lack of updates beyond 2 years is always a turnoff.

Pixel gets at least 3 years, sometimes more.
Moto I don't know as I have not owned one since the RAZR days. I do know it gets two major OS updates.

 

[iHorseHead]

When i want a test Android platform it's always a pixel or Moto. But lack of updates beyond 2 years is always a turnoff.

I am pretty sure my Motorola is older than 2 years already and it still receives security updates.

 

[panzer06]

Pixel gets at least 3 years, sometimes more.
Moto I don't know as I have not owned one since the RAZR days. I do know it gets two major OS updates.

Good to know. Didn't seem like it got updates often, though I really don't use it much. EDIT: new Pixel 6 gets 5 years of updates guaranteed.

 

[Jayson A]

what about the changes 'under the hood'...? 🤔

Like?

 

[fisherking]

Like?

every new version of an OS has changes, enhancements... improvements made to the underlying code. you can google for details. (to be fair, with those changes we often get new bugs as well).

this is the nature of software development, and why we live in a world of betas, and point updates. ad infinitum...

 

[canpoyrazoglu]

And Windows doesn’t nag you to use OneDrive? Android doesn’t nag you to use Gmail or Gdrive? It’s nothing new, and it’s not like they do it daily, basically, it happens when you set up your iPhone, enter certain apps for the first time, that’s it.

Also, if you think iOS 7 was better than iOS 15, you’re remembering only the good things ? Apple’s software is ok and iOS 15 is good. And I‘d like to see One UI 4 run on a 4 year old Samsung Phone. If they get the update at all, that is.

I think iOS 15 is good in terms of features, but I can see the quality bit down in the recent years both in macOS and iOS. Not talking about nagging nor feature set, but the small details that really show the work done. The perfectionism, pixel perfectness is long gone. iMessage, for example is extremely slow, sometimes taking seconds to change to a different conversation on 2019 16" MacBook Pro with 8-core 2.4GHz i9 CPU. I know adding features is always more demanding as a developer, but come on, iMessage can be much faster. Things are often misaligned, animations are sometimes cut in half, hitting enter to send message is laggy and doesn't register the next few key presses etc on Mac. Not much of a better quality on iOS too. It's not slow, but this time trying to scroll inside any "iMessage app" (the ones that appear in place of the keyboard) has a super buggy interface on swipe. Many similar stuff in default apps as well. AirDrop, one of the most useful features that was introduced many years ago still sometimes refuses to work until I restart devices. Sometimes the share sheet doesn't display the devices around, but opening it from Finder does immediately, making "drag and drop into Finder" the only way to get it work. I'm not even getting into more serious stuff like a friend sending a message to a group but iMessage sending that message to me (it wasn't a sensitive message, but what if it was?), or someone I know getting their Apple ID hacked despite having 2FA and all measures enabled. Most of them (excluding the last two) are all small glitches but having thousands of more like these really show the questionable nature of Apple's software QA.