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@cupcakes2000 You are right. iPadOS File App is a very robust file manager similar to Finder or Windows Explorer. It is one of the most used apps on my M1 iPP 11 for managing files and sending to or grabbing from my desktop computer and external drives.

Here are a few video tutorials I made for iPadOS 15.5 Files App




 
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cupcakes2000 said:
Why don’t you speak to the devs if you want the apps? Nothing stops the iPad from running anything, if it’s practical on such a device.

What is full file management support when it’s at home? I can manage all my files just fine. If you can’t then perhaps follow some online instructions?
Or, if you like, I’ll wait while you pull out a random niche use case, something that wouldn’t suit a touch first computer in the first place.
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I’ve heard that thumb drives formatted with FAT32 can corrupt or lose files so I want to reformat mine for APFS or HFS. Oops. I guess touch first computers are supposed to lose files…
 
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jdb8167 said:
I’ve heard that thumb drives formatted with FAT32 can corrupt or lose files so I want to reformat mine for APFS or HFS. Oops. I guess touch first computers are supposed to lose files…
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Oh right, well. People ´hear’ a lot of things these days, however that doesn’t make it some major issue that is even something common. For example, I’m an avid ‘hardcore’ user of iPad Pro’s since 2018, mixing multiple ssds, hdds, thumb drives, cf cards, sd cards using adapters, cables, hubs, docks across several Mac OS devices and several iPads.

Never once lost a file.

It’s a bummer you can’t yet format a drive on iPadOS though.
 
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eicca said:
The fact that an iPad Pro costs more than a MacBook Air and does less than a MacBook Air boggles my mind.

I get the pencil-and-tablet stuff is useful for people. But I don't get paying more than a laptop to be able to do that.

Seriously, just make the iPad run macOS and it would be both devices very effectively. All problems solved.
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Apple would never voluntarily cannibalise the sales of their own separate product lines
 
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cupcakes2000 said:
Oh right, well. People ´hear’ a lot of things these days, however that doesn’t make it some major issue that is even something common. For example, I’m an avid ‘hardcore’ user of iPad Pro’s since 2018, mixing multiple ssds, hdds, thumb drives, cf cards, sd cards using adapters, cables, hubs, docks across several Mac OS devices and several iPads.

Never once lost a file.

It’s a bummer you can’t yet format a drive on iPadOS though.
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the issue is with exfat, if you don't use exfat you won't have issues, if you do that's far from a minor issue
 
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Digitalguy said:
the issue is with exfat, if you don't use exfat you won't have issues, if you do that's far from a minor issue
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Well, in my experience, both exFAT and FAT32 are affected.

Since I mostly write on Windows and read on iPads, I keep large SSDs and HDDs formatted as NTFS (read-only on iOS). I only have a couple of 32-64GB USB-C/A flash drives formatted as exFAT for the rare times I need to sneakernet files from iPad to PC.
 
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cupcakes2000 said:
Oh right, well. People ´hear’ a lot of things these days, however that doesn’t make it some major issue that is even something common. For example, I’m an avid ‘hardcore’ user of iPad Pro’s since 2018, mixing multiple ssds, hdds, thumb drives, cf cards, sd cards using adapters, cables, hubs, docks across several Mac OS devices and several iPads.

Never once lost a file.

It’s a bummer you can’t yet format a drive on iPadOS though.
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So I should wait until I lose data to take proactive action? There are many things that iPadOS is deficient in that have nothing to do with it being touch first. Not being able to format a drive is just one of them.
 
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sracer said:
Samsung IMO, has done the best job to-date in providing a tablet and desktop experience in a single device
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What's the point of having a desktop experience when you don't have desktop apps?

IMO, people over hype DeX, it's just another extension of Android.

The best user experience would be:

PC and Android Tab
PC and iPad
Mac and Android tab
Mac and iPad.
 
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Digitalguy said:
the issue is with exfat, if you don't use exfat you won't have issues, if you do that's far from a minor issue
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I have exfat formatted thumb drives and cards ?
jdb8167 said:
So I should wait until I lose data to take proactive action? There are many things that iPadOS is deficient in that have nothing to do with it being touch first. Not being able to format a drive is just one of them.
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Nope you shouldn’t. But when you ‘hear’ of it, that doesn’t mean it’s happened to you. As I said, it’s never happened to me. In the history of my computer usage I have had plenty of file corruption, but just not using my iPad, only on traditional systems - and nothing recently except a major issue on my server but that was my error.

So, hearing of something doesn’t mean it’s an issue that effects all. The iPad, like the mac, isn’t infallible. It’s always possible to have file corruption.

Im not arguing anymore about what’s deficient or not about iPad OS. It’s not as robust as os’ which have histories dating back decades, no. Obviously. It’s pretty new fork of a comparatively new fork. There is stuff missing, and we all know how long Apple takes to address stuff. That doesn’t mean much though, as things take time to mature. Formatting a drive of a tablet computer that has only just recently had external drive support added, which a vast majority of users won’t use and likely don’t even know about isnt high on the list of priorities probably. Like proper external monitor support. It’s just not the focus of an iPad. But it will come.
 
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TJ82 said:
as I’d love to see windowed apps
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Can you list why? What do you need from resizable apps. I'll take the first one "to arrange things" "to show more than one"... etc etc
OK what else? and can you give examples of arranging apps that needs windowed apps?
 
exoticSpice said:
What's the point of having a desktop experience when you don't have desktop apps?

IMO, people over hype DeX, it's just another extension of Android.

The best user experience would be:

PC and Android Tab
PC and iPad
Mac and Android tab
Mac and iPad.
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I somewhat agree. However, I would love to see iOS apps on Windows, that would be great to be able to run all the apps from IPad on touch enabled windows pc or tablet.
I know it's an odd wish, but I would love it.
 
I find multitasking in iPad OS a fairly miserable experience, even with the latest round of polish it got in iOS15. For me introducing a windowed mode seems like it will help fix this, although it is something of an admission of failure that Apple has not been able to quite figure out a way to do multitasking well on iOS devices without basically making it a traditional computer.

I am sure Apple will persevere until it gets it right - the iPad in many ways is where Apple wants its users to end up: walled garden App store (Apple loves its $$$ cut on all IAPs and app purchases), no serious competitors, bespoke accessories, unclear hardware specs. It's the corporate dream. Apple would love for iPads to become a more mainstream choice.
 
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GhostOS said:
Apple would never voluntarily cannibalise the sales of their own separate product lines
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If that was true the OG iPhone would have lacked iTunes, iPads wouldn't have gotten the "light desktop" mode (KBD/mouse support and the Files-app), iBooks and MBAs would not have existed or only in much weaker form.

One product line "p###ing up" the product line above it is at the core of Apple.


Now sure I don't expect iPads to run a full macOS but letting it get closer to a MB (without compromising on being a proper iPad) is a no brainer. Sure they will sell a few less MB (with a greater margin) but in the end I'd expect them to sell 2 iPPs for every MB sale lost.
 
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Bug-Creator said:
If that was true the OG iPhone would have lacked iTunes, iPads wouldn't have gotten the "light desktop" mode (KBD/mouse support and the Files-app), iBooks and MBAs would not have existed or only in much weaker form.

One product line "p###ing up" the product line above it is at the core of Apple.


Now sure I don't expect iPads to run a full macOS but letting it get closer to a MB (without compromising on being a proper iPad) is a no brainer. Sure they will sell a few less MB (with a greater margin) but in the end I'd expect them to sell 2 iPPs for every MB sale lost.
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I am sure the MBA M1 outsells the iPad Pro.
 
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exoticSpice said:
I am sure the MBA M1 outsells the iPad Pro.
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Would that still be true if an iPP could serve as a full laptop replacement?
Point is Apple's track record with these is NOT to hold the lower tier product line back.

IMO what is stopping the iPP to grow into that space is Apple not wanting to compromise an iPad to work as an iPad.
 
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The Game 161 said:
I could see window support being an M1 thing without a doubt. maybe a min of 6GB of ram
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That’s a wee bit contradictory. If M1 is a must, then that’s automatically 8GB RAM minimum.

With a 6GB minimum, then the chipset minimum drops down to A12Z (maybe A12X).
 
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It’s going to be a “mode” that only activates when using an external monitor…
 
My 2 cents is that peolle want an iPad to be used as a computer, that's where 99% of the problem come from.

An iPad is a capable device, but if you try using it as you would a desktop computer it doesn't work that well.

People need to get into a new workflow, do things the iPad way, and they would encounter fever issues and it would make their experience better.

Sure there is a learning curve, and you feel you have to "adapt yourself" the thing is, it's like judging a fish from it's ability to climb trees.

It's an iPad, not a computer, if you want a computer get a MacBook Air / Pro, if you gab an iPad, you should know it's not a computer.

(What's a computer?)
 
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