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SoYoung

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I agree. I've liked it since day one of 8.4 beta and it's only gotten better and better with refinements in nearly every update since. I've never found it difficult or confusing to navigate like some seem to find it.
I agree 100%. Plus, if you are not subscribed on apple music, just turn it off on the settings and you won't be annoyed with it anymore on the app. Problem solved.
 
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trifid

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I agree 100%. Plus, if you are not subscribed on apple music, just turn it off on the settings and you won't be annoyed with it anymore on the app. Problem solved.

Not true, before we had "artist" "albums" "songs" "playlists" tabs, easy 1 tap access. Now Apple removed those sections and forces you to see "Radio" and "Connect" which are useless, especially since Radio is no longer free, why do I need to see a radio tab that I can't use? And connect? What a joke.
 
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Loge

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Various problems have been discussed many times,
  • Can't sort albums alphabetically within artist,
  • "Show all music" bar permanently displayed, if you are not showing all music
  • Album cover art hides the status bar
  • scrubbing control is too small and fiddly
  • search brings up a bar with radio option, which is useless if you don't have Apple music
  • no way to see metadata, playcounts, last played, purchase date etc.
  • while you can get rid of Connect, it's just replaced with empty space
  • silly phone icon still displayed even if you are only showing music on the device
  • etc.
 

kiranmk2

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So what's the best 3rd party option? I've heard good things about Ecoute, but had anyone found anything better?
 

e93to

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I'm pretty neutral on the Music app since it gets the job done - storing and playing music.

However, there are some things I am annoyed with:

* fonts are too small... I pressed so many wrong things within Music app. I use iPhone 4 with iOS 7 for iPod, and the thick fonts on that phone feel great. Furthermore, the slider is too small (not just iOS 9, but also iOS 7 and up)! It always takes a couple of tries to perfectly grab the slider, and put it where I want it...

* why does the Music app turn completely white on certain occasions...? This happens when cell signal is lost or recovered. But I hate cellular data and Apple Music disabled. Sometimes it stays white for several seconds. And this morning, it stayed white during the duration of an entire song, so I had to quit the app, and reopen it.

* I'm not interested in Radio or Connect. But they take up half the menu bar of the Music app. These two could have been something useful...

* I miss coverflow...

That being said, Music app is a decent app. It does get the job done for me. It plays music that is stored on the phone.
 
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Zwhaler

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Ok that's cool, I can understand why the music app works well for you then. I think the app is pretty condescending for users who aren't subscribers.
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Works perfectly fine for me. Use if everyday. Some people just like to complain.

Are you an Apple Music subscriber?
 
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RobbyIdol

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My favorite Music app version is 8.4.1. I think it's the best blend of iOS 6 we're going to get in a post-iOS 7 world. 6 was of course the cleanest, most intuitive, and least "bloated" Music app in iOS 6 history. But I enjoyed the UI upgrade in 8.4.1 and found Apple Music pretty easy to ignore once I turned it off.

iOS 7's Music App was garbage. I understand they wanted a complete UI overhaul, which is to be expected over time, but they literally broke some of the most basic and intuitive functions of the Music app in the process. I won't rehash it here, we all lived through it.

8.4.1 more or less fixed what 7.0 broke, in my opinion. Simple things like a return of nested albums for any artist with 2 or more in your library; shrinking the Artist images to allow more on screen, etc. For me, it felt like MY music app was back. I was never going to get iOS 6 back, so this for me was pretty solid.

9.2.1 began to break the app again. Simple things like nested albums got expanded if the Artist has less than 4 albums to their name in your library, returning to the endless scrolling between albums to find a single song like we had on 7. The UI is getting crowded, too many little icons like that phone with a check mark, hearts if you "love" something or not, and the lockscreen touch controls too close together, making a simple volume adjustment a real chore sometimes.

I don't know why this app is so difficult for Apple to keep stable and consistent in a post-Jobs world. I hope iOS 10 returns to the clean experience and functionality we had in 8.4.1 or 6.0. But I'm not hopeful.
 
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HankHowdy

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Ok that's cool, I can understand why the music app works well for you then. I think the app is pretty condescending for users who aren't subscribers.
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Are you an Apple Music subscriber?

Why does it matter if I'm a subscriber?
 

lagwagon

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My favorite Music app version is 8.4.1. I think it's the best blend of iOS 6 we're going to get in a post-iOS 7 world. 6 was of course the cleanest, most intuitive, and least "bloated" Music app in iOS 6 history. But I enjoyed the UI upgrade in 8.4.1 and found Apple Music pretty easy to ignore once I turned it off.

iOS 7's Music App was garbage. I understand they wanted a complete UI overhaul, which is to be expected over time, but they literally broke some of the most basic and intuitive functions of the Music app in the process. I won't rehash it here, we all lived through it.

8.4.1 more or less fixed what 7.0 broke, in my opinion. Simple things like a return of nested albums for any artist with 2 or more in your library; shrinking the Artist images to allow more on screen, etc. For me, it felt like MY music app was back. I was never going to get iOS 6 back, so this for me was pretty solid.

9.2.1 began to break the app again. Simple things like nested albums got expanded if the Artist has less than 4 albums to their name in your library, returning to the endless scrolling between albums to find a single song like we had on 7. The UI is getting crowded, too many little icons like that phone with a check mark, hearts if you "love" something or not, and the lockscreen touch controls too close together, making a simple volume adjustment a real chore sometimes.

I don't know why this app is so difficult for Apple to keep stable and consistent in a post-Jobs world. I hope iOS 10 returns to the clean experience and functionality we had in 8.4.1 or 6.0. But I'm not hopeful.

The Music app in 8.4.1 is the exact same app that's in 9.0, 9.0.1, 9.0.2, 9.1, 9.2, 9.2.1. So I'm not sure how you can love it in 8.4.1 but absolutely hate it in 9.2.1.

The ONLY differences since it's redesign in 8.4 is that they have moved a lot out of the "..." Menus, added the 3 bar rating to show how popular a particular song is in iTunes, made the downloaded icon show for each song instead of just on the album.
 

Zwhaler

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Yes I am.
The trend I've noticed since starting this thread is that users who like the app also subscribe to Apple Music. If you are not a subscriber, it really is a terrible design.
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Why does it matter if I'm a subscriber?
It's quite obvious, 4 out of the 5 tab buttons on the bottom are for Apple Music. If you are not a subscriber, you now have an app that feels like 80% of the functionality is useless and intrusive. It's like making 4 out of 5 icons on your dock apps that cannot be moved but you don't use unless you pay. You were perfectly happy before they made this change when those icons in your dock were for apps you actually did use.
 
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HankHowdy

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The trend I've noticed since starting this thread is that users who like the app also subscribe to Apple Music. If you are not a subscriber, it really is a terrible design.
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It's quite obvious, 4 out of the 5 tab buttons on the bottom are for Apple Music. If you are not a subscriber, you now have an app that feels like 80% of the functionality is useless and intrusive. It's like making 4 out of 5 icons on your dock apps that cannot be moved but you don't use unless you pay. You were perfectly happy before they made this change when those icons in your dock were for apps you actually did use.

Doesn't seem to bother me. I also have music that own and the music app works well for that.
 

Zwhaler

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Doesn't seem to bother me. I also have music that own and the music app works well for that.

I'm glad it doesn't bother you, but surely the older interface wasn't inferior when browsing "My Music" (the whole app was geared toward My Music). The new app's GUI layout silently screams "Get Apple Music Get Apple Music now"
 

HankHowdy

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I'm glad it doesn't bother you, but surely the older interface wasn't inferior when browsing "My Music" (the whole app was geared toward My Music). The new app's GUI layout silently screams "Get Apple Music Get Apple Music now"

Can you turn off Apple Music in settings?
 
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Zwhaler

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What's the difference?
Remember these days?
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Now we have this crap
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Can you turn off Apple Music in settings?
No, my understanding is this is the best you can do.
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