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matreya

macrumors 65816
Nov 14, 2009
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127
Seriously, Apple is giving you something for free, and you're complaining that other people's products might not still work. You choose to go through this upgrade process. If you don't want to, then don't. If other people's products fail to keep pace with new versions of the OS that you choose to install anyway, then complain to them.

Compatibility is a valid concern (for me too, by the way), but blaming Apple doesn't make sense when this is completely optional.

Here here! :)

No-one is forcing people to download Yosemite Public Betas or Developer Previews. Developers are downloading DPs to ensure their products will work (via minor and major updates) when Yosemite is released.

People are downloading Yosemite PBs to either experience the bleeding edge and/or to help Apple nail down bugs...
 

joedec

macrumors 6502
Jul 25, 2014
443
51
Cupertino
That makes no sense. The car comes with a multi-year warranty. Your complaint and further comparison (to a car, no less) is unjustified. Nothing you bought is spontaneously breaking. You don't have to upgrade! No one is making you do it. What exactly is it that you just bought that cannot be repaired?

Seriously, Apple is giving you something for free, and you're complaining that other people's products might not still work. You choose to go through this upgrade process. If you don't want to, then don't. If other people's products fail to keep pace with new versions of the OS that you choose to install anyway, then complain to them.

Compatibility is a valid concern (for me too, by the way), but blaming Apple doesn't make sense when this is completely optional.

Well actually yes, you can fault Apple for churning the platform to rapidly, they own the base component, the operating system which we build dependencies on.

If you're purely a consumer its fine to use the "free" update or not, but if you have a more complex relationship with Apple, a developer, or integrator, or even a professional user who has a vested interest in the platform its not as simple as use it or not.

Personally I don't like the new "free" model. I prefer to pay the $129 and get a level of quality where no one can say "what do you want its free!". Our time and effort we put into these products and our businesses that use them is not free.
 

Undecided

macrumors 6502a
Mar 4, 2005
710
185
California
Well actually yes, you can fault Apple for churning the platform to rapidly, they own the base component, the operating system which we build dependencies on.

If you're purely a consumer its fine to use the "free" update or not, but if you have a more complex relationship with Apple, a developer, or integrator, or even a professional user who has a vested interest in the platform its not as simple as use it or not.

Personally I don't like the new "free" model. I prefer to pay the $129 and get a level of quality where no one can say "what do you want its free!". Our time and effort we put into these products and our businesses that use them is not free.

This is surreal. "Innovate!" "How dare you innovate!"

If they progress too quickly for you, then only install every other new OS. (But then you'll complain that new apps require the new OS.)

If an update breaks apps, don't install it. That's not a quality issue - that's progressing without carrying old crud forward.

If you hate free things and would rather pay $129, feel free to send Apple a check!
 

joedec

macrumors 6502
Jul 25, 2014
443
51
Cupertino
This is surreal. "Innovate!" "How dare you innovate!"

If they progress too quickly for you, then only install every other new OS. (But then you'll complain that new apps require the new OS.)

If an update breaks apps, don't install it. That's not a quality issue - that's progressing without carrying old crud forward.

If you hate free things and would rather pay $129, feel free to send Apple a check!

No reason to get snarky about it. I was merely trying to express there is more to it (i.e. the software stack) than you seem to be aware.

As far as paid software, we all send Apple checks one way or another. You don't really believe the current value proposition is free?

So I'll conclude here, best not to hijack this thread eh?
 

AppleWindowsFan

macrumors member
Nov 13, 2013
34
0
Ohio USA
The only broken App that I transferred over to the Yosemite beta, that I care about, is Final Cut Pro. Doesn't work at all. Logic Pro, however, transferred over fine.

Strange, seeing that it's an Apple app. Maybe they'll update it for general release date?
 

joedec

macrumors 6502
Jul 25, 2014
443
51
Cupertino
vox, which worked last week, no longer works (14A379b). and max, which i've used to convert audio files, also does not work... :confused:

I think they broke the audio, I have issues with sound using the phone now, garbled, crackles or just plain silence. If I reboot sometimes it works.

PB 3 worked fine, failing on PB 4 (14A379b)
 

fisherking

macrumors G4
Jul 16, 2010
11,252
5,563
ny somewhere
I think they broke the audio, I have issues with sound using the phone now, garbled, crackles or just plain silence. If I reboot sometimes it works.

PB 3 worked fine, failing on PB 4 (14A379b)

definitely seems related. just sent feedback about the audio issues..


EDIT: vox is fixed, and replaced Max with Adapter...
 
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Rorlow

macrumors member
Jan 12, 2011
42
1
Detroit, MI
The past three betas have had graphics issues where intermitent yellow/green squares appear on both my iMac and attached cinema display screens. Sometimes clicking on the screen makes them disappear other times they get worse. Anyone experiencing this or have a fix? I can't find any solutions to fix this.
 

ErikGrim

macrumors 604
Jun 20, 2003
6,526
5,146
Brisbane, Australia
The past three betas have had graphics issues where intermitent yellow/green squares appear on both my iMac and attached cinema display screens. Sometimes clicking on the screen makes them disappear other times they get worse. Anyone experiencing this or have a fix? I can't find any solutions to fix this.

Yup. Mine are purple. Still happens in GM on my iMac.
 

theBostonian

Suspended
Apr 15, 2012
317
238
What sort of temperatures are folks seeing just browsing the net without Flash?

On 10.9.5 (mid 2012 MBP) I hover around 45-50. Has Yosemite improved this?
 

kungfupanda

macrumors newbie
May 27, 2008
8
0
Printing to Canon UFR-II printers in Yosemite

Symptom: you can't install the Canon UFR-II printer driver because it complains that it's not supported on your version of OS (i.e. 10.10).....

Solution:

Change OSX version 10.10 to 10.9:

sudo sed -i '' 's/>10.10</>10.9</' /System/Library/CoreServices/SystemVersion.plist

Install the UFR printer driver from the disk image downloaded from e.g. here

Restore OSX version

sudo sed -i '' 's/>10.9</>10.10</' /System/Library/CoreServices/SystemVersion.plist

Credit to d1egoaz

You can now install the printer using the drivers now installed onto your Mac. Worked great for me.
 

fhall1

macrumors 68040
Dec 18, 2007
3,876
1,320
(Central) NY State of mind
Symptom: you can't install the Canon UFR-II printer driver because it complains that it's not supported on your version of OS (i.e. 10.10).....

Solution:

Change OSX version 10.10 to 10.9:



Install the UFR printer driver from the disk image downloaded from e.g. here

Restore OSX version



Credit to d1egoaz

You can now install the printer using the drivers now installed onto your Mac. Worked great for me.

Good find....this might work for other install packages as well.
 

mav225

macrumors newbie
Oct 9, 2014
1
0
No more shake

Shake 4.1.1 is officially now dead with Yosemite.
Anyone have the source code :)
 

ben12345

macrumors newbie
May 4, 2010
26
0
Beamer not Working

Has anyone had issues with Beamer? Some days it works other times it does not.
 

HyperZboy

macrumors 65816
Feb 7, 2007
1,086
1
Not that I ever use it much but my old copy of Final Cut Pro 10.0.5 is bricked in Yosemite as is Yahoo Messenger.
 
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