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khha4113

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Oct 12, 2013
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So, let me get this straight: You HAVE seen bugs on iOS 8, which others HAVEN'T seen, and you HAVEN'T seen bugs on Lollipop which others HAVE seen? So, for you (and only for you), Lollipop is more stable. That's what you need to take from this "experiment"
Imagine the people that are seeing the bugs on Lollipop - they are just the opposite of you right now, wondering what is going on ATM with Google.

It’s Official—iOS 8 Is Apple’s Buggiest Release to Date

About a month and a half into iOS 8: We’ve had four updates (8.0.1, 8.0.2. 8.1, and 8.1.1), and we’re officially at 23 listed bug fixes through iOS 8.1. But with iOS 8.1.1, which just went live Monday, Apple doesn’t site specific bug fixes, but rather a general “This release includes bug fixes, increased stability and performance improvements for iPad 2 and iPhone 4s.” It’s not a leap to assume that “bug fixes,” plural, refers to at least two to three fixes, and that stability updates to older iOS devices could bring that number to at least five. That officially makes iOS 8, thus far, the buggiest iOS yet.
 

jrswizzle

macrumors 603
Aug 23, 2012
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McKinney, TX
The issues they present appear to be for folks doing a factory flash, not those that are doing an OTA update (or even OTA sideload).

Wait - so you have MORE problems flashing the update yourself versus waiting for the OTA?

Dammit....

I'm on 8.1.1 on two iPhones and an iPad. Nothing problematic to report here. Occasional app crash, but developers will be working to update their apps to include all the new dev tools and be compatible with the new screen resolutions for quite a while. It'll take time.
 

Lloydbm41

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Oct 17, 2013
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Wait - so you have MORE problems flashing the update yourself versus waiting for the OTA?

The only issue is from people not updating the SDK prior to flashing the factory image. Has nothing to do with Google and everything to do with the user.

I had zero issues loading the factory images on my Nexus devices.
 

khha4113

macrumors regular
Oct 12, 2013
202
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And yet, Lollipop is only available for a small amount of devices at this point, and I know of several bugs already. And I don't even own an Android device.
Is iOS 8 buggy? Hell yes, it is. No one is debating that.
I responded to your post that said 'others haven't seen IOS8 bugs' yet! I didn't say Lollipop doesn't have bugs
 

diamond.g

macrumors G4
Mar 20, 2007
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Wait - so you have MORE problems flashing the update yourself versus waiting for the OTA?

Dammit....

I'm on 8.1.1 on two iPhones and an iPad. Nothing problematic to report here. Occasional app crash, but developers will be working to update their apps to include all the new dev tools and be compatible with the new screen resolutions for quite a while. It'll take time.

eh, if you don't know what you are doing, sure. I side loaded the OTA and have had no issues.
 

jrswizzle

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Aug 23, 2012
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eh, if you don't know what you are doing, sure. I side loaded the OTA and have had no issues.

Ok - good. Thanks.

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The only issue is from people not updating the SDK prior to flashing the factory image. Has nothing to do with Google and everything to do with the user.

I had zero issues loading the factory images on my Nexus devices.

Gotcha, thanks. I'm doing so now.
 

jrswizzle

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Aug 23, 2012
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And naturally, as I'm attempting to fix the drivers for my N5, the OTA hits my device :p

Will download and install when I get home.
 

tbayrgs

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Jul 5, 2009
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To those who are running Lollipop on your Nexus 7, did you get the OTA update or manually installed it? I'm still waiting for the update.

I manually installed it on the used unit I picked up yesterday as it hadn't received the OTA yet and I suspected the original owner may have restored a buggy copy of KK as I was having some connectivity issues. Have to say, I'm really liking Lollipop and would absolutely be looking at either a Moto X or Nexus 6 if choosing an Android phone.
 

Stuntman06

macrumors 6502a
Sep 19, 2011
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It's a 3rd party keyboard issue. I have that same problem using swiftkey and swype, but if you use Apple's built in keyboard it isn't an issue. Google it. Now I'm assuming since all of the 3rd party keyboards are doing it, my guess is that something isn't quite right with the API's that Apple has opened for 3rd party keyboards (meaning probably on Apple to fix)... but this is just a guess.

The major iOS bug that affects me is landscape typing on third party keyboards. When you type and then turn the phone to landscape, the keyboard is not flush with the bottom of the screen. On a number of apps, the landscape keyboard appears in the centre of the screen. This issue happens with all third party keyboards I have tried. As someone who mostly types in landscape, this bug makes third party keyboards useless to me.
 

AppleRobert

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Nov 12, 2012
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2014/11/21/apple-news-digest-bugs-io8-usb-lightning-free-apps/?partner=yahootix

The beat goes on.
 

imaginex20

macrumors 68000
Jun 17, 2009
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721
The only issue I've ever had with my iPhone 6 is that I cannot type in landscape as long as I choose to backspace. The cursor simply moves over the text and doesn't delete it. Bug reported 3 times with absolutely no resolve. I would not switch back to android for this though.

I hope you were actually clicking the delete key and not just the back cursor button.

The backspace key is next to the M key in landscape mode.
 

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cdmoore74

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Jun 24, 2010
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Both have bugs but I put more weight behind Google in fixing them. One of the reasons is because so many people have their hands on Android code. Motorola could tell Google about bugs when updating the Moto X. Or Samsung finds a bug while skinning stock Android with TouchWiz. And maybe a developer found a bug while tweaking a custom rom. Apple on the other hand receives zero feedback from outside phone OEM's with raw access to code. Apple must rely on itself to squash bugs. I don't expect Motorola, Samsung, HTC, LG and Sony to keep bugs to themselves.
To me there is more potential to find and confirm the bug if you have multiple/credible sources. But then again why does iOS have so many bugs in the first place when they only have 1 to 2 phones a year vs Androids larger mix?
 

cdmoore74

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Jun 24, 2010
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And yet, Lollipop is only available for a small amount of devices at this point, and I know of several bugs already. And I don't even own an Android device.
Is iOS 8 buggy? Hell yes, it is. No one is debating that.

You know what's funny? Apple has released a handful of iOS 8 updates but my Note 4 on Verizon has yet to receive one and my phone has been rock solid. My wife was like "got another update; what should I do and she has a iPhone 5?"
I know that bugs can happen on any phone but for the number of models Apple has you would figure that the bugs would be fixed by now. It's like they introduce more bugs with each revision of iOS. I can pretty much guarantee that iOS 9 is going to require multiple updates in the first 4 to 6 months. This is another reason why I gave up on jailbreaking; it forces you to stick to older versions of iOS.
 

jamezr

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Aug 7, 2011
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You know what's funny? Apple has released a handful of iOS 8 updates but my Note 4 on Verizon has yet to receive one and my phone has been rock solid. My wife was like "got another update; what should I do and she has a iPhone 5?"
I know that bugs can happen on any phone but for the number of models Apple has you would figure that the bugs would be fixed by now. It's like they introduce more bugs with each revision of iOS. I can pretty much guarantee that iOS 9 is going to require multiple updates in the first 4 to 6 months. This is another reason why I gave up on jailbreaking; it forces you to stick to older versions of iOS.
Same here. My GF has a IP6.....every update she stresses over whether to install it or not. She asks me what to do. I advise her to wait...lets Google it and see if this update breaks anything. Lets give it some soak time. If the reviews are good. then update. If not wait.......update 02 will be out shortly.
 

tbayrgs

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Jul 5, 2009
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You know what's funny? Apple has released a handful of iOS 8 updates but my Note 4 on Verizon has yet to receive one and my phone has been rock solid. My wife was like "got another update; what should I do and she has a iPhone 5?"
I know that bugs can happen on any phone but for the number of models Apple has you would figure that the bugs would be fixed by now. It's like they introduce more bugs with each revision of iOS. I can pretty much guarantee that iOS 9 is going to require multiple updates in the first 4 to 6 months. This is another reason why I gave up on jailbreaking; it forces you to stick to older versions of iOS.

But your Note 4 is also not running the latest OS (and likely won't for quite a while), but rather a very mature iteration of Android that was originally released a year ago and has been updated 4 times since. A more fair comparison would be to compare the iPhone 6/6+ in about 9 months when iOS 8 has reached the same maturity as KitKat has now. And considering Samsung's recent track record for updates, there's a good chance your Note may still be running 4.4.4. ;) (yes, I'm exaggerating and partly joking so save the littany of posts showing me Samsung doesn't actually take 9 months)
 

mercuryjones

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May 31, 2005
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But your Note 4 is also not running the latest OS (and likely won't for quite a while), but rather a very mature iteration of Android that was originally released a year ago and has been updated 4 times since. A more fair comparison would be to compare the iPhone 6/6+ in about 9 months when iOS 8 has reached the same maturity as KitKat has now..

I know. It's almost like people assume that a brand new OS is going to work without a single bug. iOS8 is a huge step for Apple, since they are opening up a lot more to 3rd party, which will bring a lot of possibilities for things to break. I'd much rather get a steady stream of updates to fix things, then have to wait several months and up to a year to actually get the required update from Samsung.
 

jamezr

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Aug 7, 2011
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I know. It's almost like people assume that a brand new OS is going to work without a single bug. iOS8 is a huge step for Apple, since they are opening up a lot more to 3rd party, which will bring a lot of possibilities for things to break. I'd much rather get a steady stream of updates to fix things, then have to wait several months and up to a year to actually get the required update from Samsung.
Samsung does not update Lollipop.....Google does......
The thread does not include Samsung. there are no Samsung devices with Lollipop!
You have no idea what you are talking about!
 

mercuryjones

macrumors 6502a
May 31, 2005
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College Station, TX
Samsung does not update Lollipop.....Google does......
The thread does not include Samsung. there are no Samsung devices with Lollipop!
You have no idea what you are talking about!
Really? Does Google supply the OTA update of Lollipop to all Samsung handsets? Or does Samsung, after they added their own flavor to it?
And, you proved my point. They are NO Samsung devices with a brand new OS on them, so comparing the two devices does not belong here. And yet, you did it anyway.
 

jamezr

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Aug 7, 2011
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Really? Does Google supply the OTA update of Lollipop to all Samsung handsets? Or does Samsung, after they added their own flavor to it?
And, you proved my point. They are NO Samsung devices with a brand new OS on them, so comparing the two devices does not belong here. And yet, you did it anyway.

So what is the thread title? Only Nexus and some Motorola phones have Lollipop!
No YOU brought up Samsung to post yet more mis information. Showing just how little you know. :eek:
 

mercuryjones

macrumors 6502a
May 31, 2005
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College Station, TX
So what is the thread title? Only Nexus and some Motorola phones have Lollipop!
No YOU brought up Samsung to post yet more mis information. Showing just how little you know. :eek:
Why not just buy your gf an Android phone and be done with it? Then, she'll never have to stress out about an update ever again.:roll eyes:
Seriously, the only update from Apple that has ever affected me badly was 8.0.1, which was fixed in a day and the new update was rolled out. However, I was back up and running within an hour and nothing was lost.
 

jamezr

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Aug 7, 2011
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Why not just buy your gf an Android phone and be done with it? Then, she'll never have to stress out about an update ever again.:roll eyes:
Seriously, the only update from Apple that has ever affected me badly was 8.0.1, which was fixed in a day and the new update was rolled out. However, I was back up and running within an hour and nothing was lost.

So why don't you buy a current Android flagship so you might know what you are talking about?

So you admit.....an IOS update bricked your iphone. And yet you wonder why people worry about the next update :eek:
 
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