Long time apple fanboy...just got an S7 edge.

[Newtons Apple]

To coin a phrase, it's the experience mate..

Have a lovely rest of your day..

OK, mate. No used to a guy telling me to have a "lovely day" but I will!

Glad they moved this thread to where it belonged

 

[OS X Dude]

I was at a loose end in Selfridges and tried an S7 Edge - it was the first Android demonstration device that wasn't dog-slow and I was very impressed on the whole. I have a couple of questions:

1. How long do Samsung take with Android updates these days? I'm in the UK on EE if that makes a difference. I dislike stock Android and have always been a fan of TouchWiz whenever I've seen it, so flashing wouldn't be for me. Plus, you shouldn't have to modify a flagship device to make it enjoyable to use anyway.

2. How does Android Pay fare compared to Apple Pay in terms of features?

3. How good is the fingerprint reader on the S7? I know the Galaxy S6 was a bit pants and my 6S has set a ridiculously high standard for other phones to meet.

I also like how on the Note 7 that you can just draw on the phone screen with it being always-on. That sounds gimmicky, but how many times would that actually be useful? I reckon quite a few! Plus, it's Apple-level intuitiveness.

 

[shyam09]

Seriously, this should be embarrassing to Apple! I can understand Google because the 6p is significantly cheaper than either of those phones. I totally understand that consumers will still line up in droves to buy the ip7 and it makes good business sense to recycle design if it still makes them money. But on some level there has to be some embarrassment when looking at just how modern Samsung designs look next to Apple. Apple used to be the undisputed leader and regardless of profit took it very seriously.

They do take the Apple Watch Band designing process very seriously though

I was at a loose end in Selfridges and tried an S7 Edge - it was the first Android demonstration device that wasn't dog-slow and I was very impressed on the whole. I have a couple of questions:

1. How long do Samsung take with Android updates these days? I'm in the UK on EE if that makes a difference. I dislike stock Android and have always been a fan of TouchWiz whenever I've seen it, so flashing wouldn't be for me. Plus, you shouldn't have to modify a flagship device to make it enjoyable to use anyway.

2. How does Android Pay fare compared to Apple Pay in terms of features?

3. How good is the fingerprint reader on the S7? I know the Galaxy S6 was a bit pants and my 6S has set a ridiculously high standard for other phones to meet.

I also like how on the Note 7 that you can just draw on the phone screen with it being always-on. That sounds gimmicky, but how many times would that actually be useful? I reckon quite a few! Plus, it's Apple-level intuitiveness.

1. It takes a couple of months to say the least.

2. I haven't used Apple Pay when I had my iPhone, but I do use Samsung Pay like crazy on my S7E. I rarely use my physical credit cards now. Nonetheless, I wouldn't be able to make a comparison.

3. If you're coming from an iPhone, you might not be as satisfied. There are times where I have to hold my thumb on the reader a bit longer for it to read, there are times where the reader won't read, and there are times when it's blazing fast. Of course finger placement is key, but I never had to worry about that on the iPhone (perhaps it was the round home button that did the trick?).

 

[tbayrgs]

I was at a loose end in Selfridges and tried an S7 Edge - it was the first Android demonstration device that wasn't dog-slow and I was very impressed on the whole. I have a couple of questions:

1. How long do Samsung take with Android updates these days? I'm in the UK on EE if that makes a difference. I dislike stock Android and have always been a fan of TouchWiz whenever I've seen it, so flashing wouldn't be for me. Plus, you shouldn't have to modify a flagship device to make it enjoyable to use anyway.

Samsung has been doing really well with the security updates, staying pretty close to the promised monthly schedule. That being said, major OS updates tend to lag at least 6 month, often longer.

2. How does Android Pay fare compared to Apple Pay in terms of features?

As far as functionality goes, they're pretty much the same. Well, at least for use at tap-to-pay terminals. If one form is advertised as accepted, the other will work too. I can't comment specifically about Android Pay but Apple Pay is also integrated into many app as a payment option. Apple Pay also likely has a more robust group of participating banks but that probably also depends on location. I haven't been able to use either of my major credit cards on Android Pay as neither particpate yet, though both work on Apple Pay.

3. How good is the fingerprint reader on the S7? I know the Galaxy S6 was a bit pants and my 6S has set a ridiculously high standard for other phones to meet.

I'll defer to others as I've haven't owned the S7 Edge but from everything I've read, it seems to be pretty close to the iPhone in performance.

 

[spinedoc77]

They do take the Apple Watch Band designing process very seriously though

Lol, right? The AW is embarrassing as well. I'm not saying it didn't sell well and I'm not saying it didn't make Apple a ton of money. But it looked outdated when released with those huge bezels and how thick it was. I can't believe they are releasing the same exact watch with a gps and no design changes. Having an Apple phone and watch must feel like groundhog day.

 

[burgman]

I really don't understand the purpose of these posts. Does it make you feel better posting this in an Apple oriented forum? Are you looking for validation that you made the right choice? Do you feel the need to feel superior to the people that do buy/have an iPhone? I just really don't get it. It's like I'm switching shampoo brands and I'm gonna tell the world that I did.

I suggest you read the title of this forum to get a clue why then apologize for being a troll
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Hardware wise Samsung is killing it, the GS7 is a freaking b-e-a-utiful phone.
This is coming from a iPhone user.

My only gripe is.... Android... + imessage/facetime.

Apple is saving the big upgrade for the 10 year, we will see what apple comes up with.
I think at this point apple will be fine for one more year of a small upgrade.


EDIT: Also they should up the screen size to 5 inches and maybe 5.8 inches

If Samsung and other tech manufacturers could match Apple with customer service then Apple would really have a problem. Microsoft understands that and their stores are a great step.

 

[admob71]

But I bet he doesn't know about android malware

Maybe not, he did certainly know tho when an ios update bricked his ipad for a few days...

 

[OS X Dude]

1. It takes a couple of months to say the least.

2. I haven't used Apple Pay when I had my iPhone, but I do use Samsung Pay like crazy on my S7E. I rarely use my physical credit cards now. Nonetheless, I wouldn't be able to make a comparison.

3. If you're coming from an iPhone, you might not be as satisfied. There are times where I have to hold my thumb on the reader a bit longer for it to read, there are times where the reader won't read, and there are times when it's blazing fast. Of course finger placement is key, but I never had to worry about that on the iPhone (perhaps it was the round home button that did the trick?).

Samsung has been doing really well with the security updates, staying pretty close to the promised monthly schedule. That being said, major OS updates tend to lag at least 6 month, often longer.

As far as functionality goes, they're pretty much the same. Well, at least for use at tap-to-pay terminals. If one form is advertised as accepted, the other will work too. I can't comment specifically about Android Pay but Apple Pay is also integrated into many app as a payment option. Apple Pay also likely has a more robust group of participating banks but that probably also depends on location. I haven't been able to use either of my major credit cards on Android Pay as neither particpate yet, though both work on Apple Pay.

I'll defer to others as I've haven't owned the S7 Edge but from everything I've read, it seems to be pretty close to the iPhone in performance.

Thanks both for your replies and insights. It certainly looks like Android is getting there, but still doesn't sound as good for me as what I already have. If they could just sort out the major OS update delay, I think I'd go for it. Android Pay will mature, that just needs time, but it would be nice if it was integrated into apps and websites like Apple Pay is. It'd be great as well if it had the hardware integration that iOS has, like more apps taking advantage of specific features of a handset but that is always going to be less likely on Android by its open nature; I can't imagine many third-party apps being optimised for the Edge display, as an example.

It certainly is a beautiful, well-designed and overall great handset... I wish I could justify having one as a second line on my current contract to really try and live with one for a bit!

 

[caelius]

I used to be a die-hard Apple fanboy, buying and owning everything that has got an apple on it's back, just because I absolutely love having everything unified. BUT: I'm terribly tempted to put my iPhone 6 into the closet and get myself a Nexus 5X/6P asap.

I don't mind the iPhone hardware lacking some bells and whistles (don't need them anyway), but heck, iOS feels SO incredibly dull and boring after seven years now. I love playing with my gadgets, but there isn't really much to play around with in iOS. :/ And buying a Nexus, I know that I'd gonna get updates as fast as it gets and for an extended period of time.

Only reason I'm still hesitant is that I love my Apple Watch and the amazing way my iPhone and MacBook work together. Will be hard to settle with less-than-perfect interaction between phone and laptop, I guess, even though I already prefer Chrome to Safari and Spotify to Apple Music... Hmm...

 

[AppleRobert]

I used to be a die-hard Apple fanboy, buying and owning everything that has got an apple on it's back, just because I absolutely love having everything unified. BUT: I'm terribly tempted to put my iPhone 6 into the closet and get myself a Nexus 5X/6P asap.

I don't mind the iPhone hardware lacking some bells and whistles (don't need them anyway), but heck, iOS feels SO incredibly dull and boring after seven years now. I love playing with my gadgets, but there isn't really much to play around with in iOS. :/ And buying a Nexus, I know that I'd gonna get updates as fast as it gets and for an extended period of time.

Only reason I'm still hesitant is that I love my Apple Watch and the amazing way my iPhone and MacBook work together. Will be hard to settle with less-than-perfect interaction between phone and laptop, I guess, even though I already prefer Chrome to Safari and Spotify to Apple Music... Hmm...

Good deals on the 5x now, you can even get one at Best Buy and if isn't working out for you then just return it.

Put it through its paces for 14 days and see how you feel about it.

 

[I7guy]

Maybe not, he did certainly know tho when an ios update bricked his ipad for a few days...

Quite the difference between a zero day vulnerability getting your personal details and a recoverable installation error...all over the world except on these forums.

 

[kevinof]

Rubbish. Have had android phones since the htc hero, and lots of friends and family have them and Im in the mobile app business and not one single person I know has ever had malware on their android phone.

Get real and don't believe everything you read on the internet.

Quite the difference between a zero day vulnerability getting your personal details and a recoverable installation error...all over the world except on these forums.

 

[I7guy]

Rubbish. Have had android phones since the htc hero, and lots of friends and family have them and Im in the mobile app business and not one single person I know has ever had malware on their android phone.

Get real and don't believe everything you read on the internet.

There you go, anyone you know seems to speak for the masses? Ever look at the national vulnerability database or cve listings to see the number of critical vulnerabilities for that operating system?

 

[admob71]

Rubbish. Have had android phones since the htc hero, and lots of friends and family have them and Im in the mobile app business and not one single person I know has ever had malware on their android phone.

Get real and don't believe everything you read on the internet.

Same here mate, but let's not let the facts get in the way of a good story eh ? Lol
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There you go, anyone you know seems to speak for the masses? Ever look at the national vulnerability database or cve listings to see the number of critical vulnerabilities for that operating system?

I'm sure you have my friend, why don't you fill us in with the gory details, I'm sure you're gagging To.. lol

 

[Zaft]

Maybe not, he did certainly know tho when an ios update bricked his ipad for a few days...

Touché

 

[kevinof]

Critical vulnerabilites <> actual malware in the field. They are merely potential issues and have very little bearing on reality.

We manage enterprise mobiles for many companies (numbering in the hundreds of thousands) and have NEVER EVER seen malware on one of these devices.

Yes the potential is there but the same can be said about Ios.

There you go, anyone you know seems to speak for the masses? Ever look at the national vulnerability database or cve listings to see the number of critical vulnerabilities for that operating system?

 

[I7guy]

Critical vulnerabilites <> actual malware in the field. They are merely potential issues and have very little bearing on reality.

We manage enterprise mobiles for many companies (numbering in the hundreds of thousands) and have NEVER EVER seen malware on one of these devices.

Yes the potential is there but the same can be said about Ios.

There were discussions about actual infections.
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Same here mate, but let's not let the facts get in the way of a good story eh ? Lol
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I'm sure you have my friend, why don't you fill us in with the gory details, I'm sure you're gagging To.. lol

No thanks, it's easily available. This topic has been beaten all over macrumors. Like the proverbial horse.

 

[Antgb84]

Samsung have copied all the best UI elements from apple and filled the gaps in Apples shortcoming.

That's kind of a sad thing isn't it? Just can't support a company which gets away with **** should I say borrowed from the iPhone. I tried the S7 and it really felt like a copy on the outside. Marshmallow felt bloated and packed with useless features.

Yes iOS is bland and boring but you know what at the end of the day it works and does the job. Send texts emails and browse, no need for the extra ********.

Feels like another that versus this argument but really it's like choosing a car these days we can sit here and argue all day which is more cheaper, has more features of the bunch more reliability blah blah blah.

Glad you jumped the ship though.

 

[admob71]

Samsung have copied all the best UI elements from apple and filled the gaps in Apples shortcoming. Only weakness for me is the fingerprint is abit sketchy and the back button can get brushed. Seriously guys get that new phone feeling again. maybe ill see apple in 24 months maybe not.

Isn't this how apple fans describe it when they blatantly copy from android. They just innocently take an existing design and refine it lol ..

 

[JForestZ34]

Hardware wise Samsung is killing it, the GS7 is a freaking b-e-a-utiful phone.
This is coming from a iPhone user.

My only gripe is.... Android... + imessage/facetime.

Apple is saving the big upgrade for the 10 year, we will see what apple comes up with.
I think at this point apple will be fine for one more year of a small upgrade.


EDIT: Also they should up the screen size to 5 inches and maybe 5.8 inches

We don't even know what is going to be in a 10th anniversary edition phone. And if indeed it's going to be even titled 10th anniversary edition.

James

 

[nviz22]

Go back 12 months, it was the s6/edge that was the huge leap forward in hardware and software. The s7 is just a refinement on a great piece of kit.
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But apart from all that mate ... lol

Apart from all that, you'll miss out on better value for a device that does more while both share similar functions.

 

[Mpalmieri1203]

Thanks both for your replies and insights. It certainly looks like Android is getting there, but still doesn't sound as good for me as what I already have. If they could just sort out the major OS update delay, I think I'd go for it. Android Pay will mature, that just needs time, but it would be nice if it was integrated into apps and websites like Apple Pay is. It'd be great as well if it had the hardware integration that iOS has, like more apps taking advantage of specific features of a handset but that is always going to be less likely on Android by its open nature; I can't imagine many third-party apps being optimised for the Edge display, as an example.

It certainly is a beautiful, well-designed and overall great handset... I wish I could justify having one as a second line on my current contract to really try and live with one for a bit!

Just to be clear you'd probably want to use Samsung pay as opposed to Android pay.

Samsung pay can be used anywhere you swipe a card whereas Apple pay requires a certain setup and that the retailer accept. I've been able to use Samsung pay everywhere. Apple pay is the platform that needs to mature.

 

[OS X Dude]

Just to be clear you'd probably want to use Samsung pay as opposed to Android pay.

Samsung pay can be used anywhere you swipe a card whereas Apple pay requires a certain setup and that the retailer accept. I've been able to use Samsung pay everywhere. Apple pay is the platform that needs to mature.

We're all set up for contactless and chip & PIN in the U.K. - I've never seen anyone swipe and sign in my 24 years of life.

 

[willmtaylor]

Samsung have always played second fiddle to Apple and I've had no reason to ever consider one, but Apple is falling so far behind in the last 6 months that I've effectively been forced to get a samsung. I just wanted to let you know that so far its blown my mind how good the S7 Edge is compared to the iPhone 6. Samsung have copied all the best UI elements from apple and filled the gaps in Apples shortcoming. Only weakness for me is the fingerprint is abit sketchy and the back button can get brushed. Seriously guys get that new phone feeling again. maybe ill see apple in 24 months maybe not.

You lost me at "long time fanboy." I can't take anyone seriously who self-describes that way.

 

[Mpalmieri1203]

We're all set up for contactless and chip & PIN in the U.K. - I've never seen anyone swipe and sign in my 24 years of life.

I just meant in relation to Apple Pay. In America the business needs to actively participate and many of them are unfortunately do not. With Samsung pay the store just needed to accept credit cards.