Phones Long time iPhone user switched to Galaxy S3

[dmelgar]

Going from Android to iOS

I'm going the other way. I've been using Android for years. Had a HTC G1, then HTC Incredible, then HTC Thunderbolt.

Android manufacturers and carriers have the appliance take it or leave it attitude. Once you bought it, you're stuck with it. No updates, no fixes.

My Incredible has tons of flash memory on it, I can't remember, 8 or 16GB, yet I couldn't install apps because of some lame 300MB partition filled up. The fix? There is no fix. Buy a new phone.

Bought a Thunderbolt. The thing regularly reboots even without touching it. It regularly loses data connectivity. Only way to fix that is to reboot which takes 5 minutes. I've always had to buy an extended battery to get a days use out of any of these phones. My Thunderbolt weights a ton and looks like it has a tumor.

HTC promised to provide an OS upgrade to ICS, but last weekend, 8 months after the OS came out, they now claim the user experience would suffer and won't release the new OS at all. This was for a similar phone to the Thunderbolt. No official word on that yet.

The "play" store is like the Wild West. Apps have horrendous intrusive ads like WeatherBug playing video ads you can't stop. It doesn't do that in their iPad app. More and more apps are asking for more and more permissions so that everything sounds like a privacy risk. Anyone minding the store? I don't think so.

Have an issue with the phone? Who's responsible, Verizon? HTC? Google? No one cares. They have your money, buy a new phone.

The Samsung Galaxy S3 looks the same. A giant boat of a phone. Years ago people laughed at the idea of a Dell 5" phone. But now the 4.8" S3 somehow seems reasonable. Like holding an iPad to your ear. Screen looks great!

Samsung is known for cheap plastic. The UI has always been a blatant copy of iOS UI. I much prefer stock Android, or even HTCs Sense. Using an S3 the other day, it looks nice but seems gimmicky. The S voice is just meant as a cheap imitation of Siri. Voice sounded bad. Home screen animations look cheesy. What sort of fancy useless animation can we create.

It's the typical case of folks trying to copy Apple without understanding what they're copying.

I didn't like the software, but I will admit the hardware is impressive. The screen is beautiful, the phone is barely larger than the screen. The reported battery life is very impressive especially for an Android phone known for runaway processes. It is light weight and thin. But really folks, it's supposed to be a phone, not a tablet. It's still too big.

 

[Mac.World]

I'm going the other way. I've been using Android for years. Had a HTC G1, then HTC Incredible, then HTC Thunderbolt.

Android manufacturers and carriers have the appliance take it or leave it attitude. Once you bought it, you're stuck with it. No updates, no fixes.

My Incredible has tons of flash memory on it, I can't remember, 8 or 16GB, yet I couldn't install apps because of some lame 300MB partition filled up. The fix? There is no fix. Buy a new phone.

Bought a Thunderbolt. The thing regularly reboots even without touching it. It regularly loses data connectivity. Only way to fix that is to reboot which takes 5 minutes. I've always had to buy an extended battery to get a days use out of any of these phones. My Thunderbolt weights a ton and looks like it has a tumor.

HTC promised to provide an OS upgrade to ICS, but last weekend, 8 months after the OS came out, they now claim the user experience would suffer and won't release the new OS at all. This was for a similar phone to the Thunderbolt. No official word on that yet.

I see a theme here. How about NOT buying HTC! Think you would have learned that lesson a bit quicker?

The "play" store is like the Wild West. Apps have horrendous intrusive ads like WeatherBug playing video ads you can't stop. It doesn't do that in their iPad app. More and more apps are asking for more and more permissions so that everything sounds like a privacy risk. Anyone minding the store? I don't think so.,

I think you are confusing ad based 'free' apps with ad free 'paid' apps. I don't have a problem with ads because I actually buy all of my apps, including WeatherBug Elite. You do need to pay attention to permissions though, because that allows you to control what goes on your phone. Can't do that with the iphone, and when malware gets into the app store, well you saw what happened. To bad iphone users can't see what permissions their apps ask for.

Samsung is known for cheap plastic. The UI has always been a blatant copy of iOS UI. I much prefer stock Android, or even HTCs Sense. Using an S3 the other day, it looks nice but seems gimmicky. The S voice is just meant as a cheap imitation of Siri. Voice sounded bad. Home screen animations look cheesy. What sort of fancy useless animation can we create.

Android UI a blatant copy of iOS? I wonder where Apple got the idea for a grid of icons on a touch screen? This looks kind of familiar and it is from 2003!

And of course Blackberry

It's the typical case of folks trying to copy Apple without understanding what they're copying.

Turn your iphone on. Look at your notification center. Like it? Find it useful? Have you done an ota os update yet. Every used the split keyboard? How about a wireless sync of your phone? All these things Apple copied from Android. Just say thank you.

I didn't like the software, but I will admit the hardware is impressive. The screen is beautiful, the phone is barely larger than the screen. The reported battery life is very impressive especially for an Android phone known for runaway processes. It is light weight and thin. But really folks, it's supposed to be a phone, not a tablet. It's still too big.

So this is your main complaint? The S3 is too big?

 

[freudling]

You're seeing what you wanted to see. I reached the top of the screen with ease. It wasn't a stretch by any means. Do better. You were proven wrong and now you're REACHING lol.

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I can hold my phone however I want to. I've been holding ALL my smartphones the same way since before you probably even held a smartphone. Come with something better than telling someone to hold the phone in a different manner.

Stretchy stretchy... as he drops his phone on the pavement.

 

[The iGentleman]

Stretchy stretchy... as he drops his phone on the pavement.

Not sure what video you watched, but there was no stretching. I effortlessly pulled down the notification panel. I did it quickly and with no trouble at all. I actually can easily touch the Samsung logo above the screen. If I "stretch" I can touch the top of the phone. Pulling down the notification panel isn't hard to do one-handed, and there's no stretching involved. Find something else to try to harp on, because you're barking up the wrong tree with this one.

 

[nooaah]

Not sure what video you watched, but there was no stretching. I effortlessly pulled down the notification panel. I did it quickly and with no trouble at all. I actually can easily touch the Samsung logo above the screen. If I "stretch" I can touch the top of the phone. Pulling down the notification panel isn't hard to do one-handed, and there's no stretching involved. Find something else to try to harp on, because you're barking up the wrong tree with this one.

It's a pain in the ass to reach all corners with my S3, and my hands definitely aren't small.

 

[The iGentleman]

I'm going the other way. I've been using Android for years. Had a HTC G1, then HTC Incredible, then HTC Thunderbolt.

Android manufacturers and carriers have the appliance take it or leave it attitude. Once you bought it, you're stuck with it. No updates, no fixes.

My Incredible has tons of flash memory on it, I can't remember, 8 or 16GB, yet I couldn't install apps because of some lame 300MB partition filled up. The fix? There is no fix. Buy a new phone.

That is an old phone. Heck it's essentially a Sense version of the Nexus One. I wouldn't judge today's phone by anything that dated. Things have come a VERY long way since then. The 3GS was the iPhone out when the Nexus One was released, and I wouldn't judge the current or next iPhone based on my horrible 3GS experience (I hated that phone).

Bought a Thunderbolt. The thing regularly reboots even without touching it. It regularly loses data connectivity. Only way to fix that is to reboot which takes 5 minutes. I've always had to buy an extended battery to get a days use out of any of these phones. My Thunderbolt weights a ton and looks like it has a tumor.

I'm not trying to be facetious, but you got hustled. The Thunderbolt was nothing but the Evo with LTE instead of WiMax. The Evo was already a year old when the Thunderbolt was released. It was an old phone when you bought it. It was out of date when it was released. I'm sorry but that phone should have been a free phone, but since it was their first LTE phone, so many people got hustled into buying it.

HTC promised to provide an OS upgrade to ICS, but last weekend, 8 months after the OS came out, they now claim the user experience would suffer and won't release the new OS at all. This was for a similar phone to the Thunderbolt. No official word on that yet.

I don't see it getting ICS because of the hardware it has. Like I said, it's the same phone as the Evo, so it has the exact same limitations. Verizon had no business selling that phone, as it was already old when they released it.

The "play" store is like the Wild West. Apps have horrendous intrusive ads like WeatherBug playing video ads you can't stop.

Vote by uninstalling it and leaving a poor rating for the app. Use apps that don't have intrusive ads. Nobody is forcing you to use apps that have intrusive ads. None of the apps on my phone have any intrusive ads.

More and more apps are asking for more and more permissions so that everything sounds like a privacy risk. Anyone minding the store? I don't think so.

The difference between that and iOS is, in iOS you could be granting similar permissions but there's nothing notifying you of it. Similar to how they found out iOS developers were getting phone numbers from people's contacts. Just because you don't see the permissions being granted in iOS doesn't mean they don't have access.

Have an issue with the phone? Who's responsible, Verizon? HTC? Google? No one cares. They have your money, buy a new phone.

Typically, if it's a carrier phone, they have no problem exchanging it under your warranty. Often times, they will swap you a totally different phone if you continue having problems with the same model phone.

The Samsung Galaxy S3 looks the same. A giant boat of a phone. Years ago people laughed at the idea of a Dell 5" phone. But now the 4.8" S3 somehow seems reasonable. Like holding an iPad to your ear. Screen looks great!

There's nothing even similar to what you mentioned above in the GS3. It's a totally different animal all together. As for Dell...the Dell streak was a horrible phone. It was huge, it was ugly, and the software sucks. On the other hand, the GS3 isn't huge despite the large screen, it's very attractive, and the software is pretty good.

Samsung is known for cheap plastic.

The GS3 is made of polycarbonate, there's nothing cheap about that. Polycarbonate has hardness ranking up there with kevlar. I'd take polycarbonate over glass any day of the week.

The UI has always been a blatant copy of iOS UI. I much prefer stock Android, or even HTCs Sense.

I will say the original Galaxy S' UI seemed to be a copy of iOS, but I can't say the GS3 is. They don't look alike and don't behave alike. That said, I too prefer vanilla Android.

Using an S3 the other day, it looks nice but seems gimmicky. The S voice is just meant as a cheap imitation of Siri. Voice sounded bad.

I hated S Voice initially as it was quite slow and performed horribly. Since I've had the phone, S Voice has improved dramatically, to the point I don't mind using it. I don't know if Samsung made some network changes on their end or what, but it's actually not bad now. As for the voice, I don't find the voice sounds any worse than Siri's voice. They both sound quite robotic. The difference is, you can install a more natural sounding voice if you so choose, whereas on Siri you're stuck with it. For the record, Google Now has the best sounding voice hands down. It almost sounds real, it's that good.

Home screen animations look cheesy. What sort of fancy useless animation can we create.

I was with you for a while, but now you're reaching.

It's the typical case of folks trying to copy Apple without understanding what they're copying.

I don't see where something was copied, except perhaps S Voice.

I didn't like the software, but I will admit the hardware is impressive. The screen is beautiful, the phone is barely larger than the screen. The reported battery life is very impressive especially for an Android phone known for runaway processes. It is light weight and thin. But really folks, it's supposed to be a phone, not a tablet. It's still too big.

Perhaps if you have baby hands it's too big. My girl has no problem handling the phone with one hand, and she's a small lady. So either you're overstating the size thing or you must have some really minuscule hands.

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It's a pain in the ass to reach all corners with my S3, and my hands definitely aren't small.

I was talking to that fraudling guy, who for some reason seems to think it's difficult to reach the notification panel.
BTW, for the record, I can reach all four corners. The very TIP of the far left corner is as effortless, but then again there's no reason to tap the VERY Tip of the far left corner lol. Note: I can reach the far left corner with no problem (notice I said the very tip).

 

[batting1000]

I've only seen iPhone apologists try and slam other phones for being bigger. Somehow you equate bigger, better screens to be bad, because they don't fit within your Apple paradigm.

Some of us don't have little girl hands and have no issue with the S3 being used with one hand. I have no complaints and quite frankly neither do millions of others.

Nope. You just can't accept the fact that not everyone wants to be holding something that large in their hands / not everyone has the same hand size as you. Mock us because we can't control the size of our hands. You're being irrational.

 

[daveathall]

I posted this in the wrong thread before, so deleted it and reposted it here, sorry if you have read it before.

I'm a convert, Ive now had my SGS3 for nearly a month, I changed from a 4S, I found the transition fairly easy which is a good thing for me me because I am not technically gifted, I do not jail break or Flash either of the phones, I prefer them as they are and am not confident in my own abilities to mess with the internal workings of either phone.

I found the UI to be quite intuitive which was a surprise, I have read the stories of woe when others have tried the transition from iOS to Android, I have to say that out of the operating systems, iOS is the easiest out of the two to understand and use straight from the box, having said that, it only took me about half day to understand and be confident in my actions with ICS.

Build quality has come in for some negative comments, in my experience it is a non issue, true, the back cover does flex once removed but I tend to spend most of the time with the cover fitted, and then it feels solid, in fact the only time it was removed was to insert my sim card. It feels and looks like a premium product. TBH, the phone, IMHO feels as well constructed as my iPhone 4S, just made of different materials. Those that think different IMHO haven't really lived with the phone for any length of time, they have probably felt a display model without the battery for a couple of minutes at most.

The size and quality of the screen is superb, I cannot imagine going back to the very much smaller screen of the 4S. The thin dimensions and curvature of the phone make it seem smaller in the hand than the dimensions would suggest, I can use it one handed for texting etc but prefer to use two, the same way I used my iP4S. Certainly on this quad core international version there is no lag apps start instantaneously, and scrolling through pages of apps is silky smooth.

The only app that doesn't work as well for my use is 1Password3 which I could synchronise with my MBP, iPad and 4S quite easily, there is the app in the play store but it doesn't work the same, I installed aWallet that works similar. Kindle, Tapatalk and the Sonos app work flawlessly.

Battery I have not tested but have not found any problems using the phone during 8 hours at work.

E mail texting and using the phone to talk to people is the same as my iPhone 4S, the clarity of calls for both devises has been the same, bluetooth connections with my car has been the same.

I dont watch much video or play games but a quick look out of curiosity has assured me that if I were that way inclined the size and quality of the screen would be enhanced over that of my 4S.

Notifications TBH are a much as a muchness, I can take or leave either iOS or Android solutions.

I find that photography to be better on my 4S than on the SGS3. I use Adobe Lightroom 4 and find that it was very easy to import photos from my iPhone straight into LR4 that is installed on my MBP, Kies installed on my MBP, IMHO, doesn't work as well for me, although I can use photo editing apps and upload to photobucket using their dedicated app, I prefer the LR4 and MBP solution that I previously mentioned. I am sure that with some more experience that I will become proficient.

When I changed I had some reservations, I thought it was going to be very difficult to master Android after iOS, it wasn't, I thought that pride of ownership would be diminished, it hasn't been in any way, I thought that after two or three weeks that I would sell my SGS3 and return back to my iP4S, I haven't.

I am not saying that either phone is better, I have my opinion, and that is that I prefer the SGS3 at this moment in time, others will have very different opinions, and they are quite entitled to it. I do own and have used both phones so can compare them like for like and am not illustrating something that I have seen or felt in a showroom for a couple of minutes.

If the new iPhone is better than this S3 I will probably move back, I still have an upgrade, if its not I will wait for a newer Android version, as far as I can tell the Google nexus phone is not sold in the UK which is a shame.

 

[Mac.World]

Nope. You just can't accept the fact that not everyone wants to be holding something that large in their hands.

Every woman has said the same thing to me.

 

[batting1000]

Every woman has said the same thing to me.

Very funny...

 

[freudling]

Not sure what video you watched, but there was no stretching. I effortlessly pulled down the notification panel. I did it quickly and with no trouble at all. I actually can easily touch the Samsung logo above the screen. If I "stretch" I can touch the top of the phone. Pulling down the notification panel isn't hard to do one-handed, and there's no stretching involved. Find something else to try to harp on, because you're barking up the wrong tree with this one.

Stretchy stretchy.

 

[AustinIllini]

I used to be all android, ever since the days of the original G1. Never really liked the apple business model but I still appreciated their creativity and product. Now I own an iPhone 4 which is a wonderful device as well as an HTC One X.

At the end of the day though, both operating systems are equally as good. If you haven't delved into android lately it's miles apart from the days of eclair and froyo. Thing is, all the gripes I hear from iphone users don't even exist on today's android platform. Yea you have bugs but I also have the same issues with my iphone.

The days of "it just works" are gone and I wish people would stop using that as an excuse as if android is incapable of performing just as smooth. Trust me android works just as well.

I was shocked how far ahead ICS is. My understanding of Android prior was just a less stable iOS. It is now FAR more than that.

 

[Zaft]

i have played around with my freinds GS3, i dont see any form of copying in the Ui besides S voice.

But for me its just too big, IMO 4" - 4.3" is the sweet spot for a phone.

 

[dmelgar]

That is an old phone. Heck it's essentially a Sense version of the Nexus One. I wouldn't judge today's phone by anything that dated. Things have come a VERY long way since then. The 3GS was the iPhone out when the Nexus One was released, and I wouldn't judge the current or next iPhone based on my horrible 3GS experience (I hated that phone).



I'm not trying to be facetious, but you got hustled. The Thunderbolt was nothing but the Evo with LTE instead of WiMax. The Evo was already a year old when the Thunderbolt was released. It was an old phone when you bought it. It was out of date when it was released. I'm sorry but that phone should have been a free phone, but since it was their first LTE phone, so many people got hustled into buying it.



I don't see it getting ICS because of the hardware it has. Like I said, it's the same phone as the Evo, so it has the exact same limitations. Verizon had no business selling that phone, as it was already old when they released it.

The point isn't about the particular phones. Its the pattern of buy a phone and don't fix it. Expect the customer to buy a newer phone. You help make the case. A 1yr old phone is ancient. Meanwhile the 3yr old iPhone 3GS will be getting iOS6. The point is that Apple tries harder to support previous phones. Most Android manufacturers don't try much at all.

Vote by uninstalling it and leaving a poor rating for the app. Use apps that don't have intrusive ads. Nobody is forcing you to use apps that have intrusive ads. None of the apps on my phone have any intrusive ads.

Again, the point is the comparison between apps in the Android market vs. Apple appstore. They seem more reserved with bad behavior in iOS because Apple is reviewing and may complain.

The difference between that and iOS is, in iOS you could be granting similar permissions but there's nothing notifying you of it. Similar to how they found out iOS developers were getting phone numbers from people's contacts. Just because you don't see the permissions being granted in iOS doesn't mean they don't have access.

Apple has been more forceful is disallowing access to data which can be considered privacy concerns. They impose new restrictions on developers. No use of device ID, no access to contacts without asking permission, no access to location data without asking permission. As a developer for both platforms, I think Apple does a better job protecting the consumer. The Android model sounded good, but Google hasn't refined it to keep it useful. The permissions should be further subdivided so that someone needing some benign permission isn't forced to ask for too much. And the all or nothing model isn't good either. Reminds me of Windows Vista User Access Control. If it warns too often, folks just turn it off or ignore the warnings.

I was with you for a while, but now you're reaching.

My point is that the animation I saw on the GS3 seems pointless. The overall intent of the iPhone UI is to make you feel like youre interacting with a physical object. You touch something and when you drag it, it moves tracking your finger as if you're really moving an object. Various animations are intended to indicate some physical 3d model. Clipboard flipping, even swiping as if something slid over it or slid across, etc.

On the GS3 the animation between home screens is of a board that flips back while its sliding to the side. It looks cool, but it doesn't map to any real 3d physical model I can think of. Its someone trying to make it look neat without having a good UI design behind it.

Perhaps if you have baby hands it's too big. My girl has no problem handling the phone with one hand, and she's a small lady. So either you're overstating the size thing or you must have some really minuscule hands.

I never said anything about hands, although it can be a challenge to reach all corners with one hand.
Its more about the size. I always have a case for my phones on a belt clip. The Thunderbolt is huge already. A similar case around the GS3 would be enormous. Remember way way back in the day when people tried to make small phones. What happened to those days.
If I want a giant screen to surf the web, I'm more than happy to use my iPad3. For maps, navigation, light web surfing, iOS6 & iPhone 5 should be plenty.

 

[Mac.World]

I never said anything about hands, although it can be a challenge to reach all corners with one hand.
Its more about the size. I always have a case for my phones on a belt clip. The Thunderbolt is huge already. A similar case around the GS3 would be enormous. Remember way way back in the day when people tried to make small phones. What happened to those days.
If I want a giant screen to surf the web, I'm more than happy to use my iPad3. For maps, navigation, light web surfing, iOS6 & iPhone 5 should be plenty.

 

[The iGentleman]

The point isn't about the particular phones. Its the pattern of buy a phone and don't fix it. Expect the customer to buy a newer phone. You help make the case. A 1yr old phone is ancient. Meanwhile the 3yr old iPhone 3GS will be getting iOS6. The point is that Apple tries harder to support previous phones. Most Android manufacturers don't try much at all.

The Thunderbolt got updated to what it could physically handle, same with the other phones. The 1 year old phone was hardly top of the line. It consisted of old internals. The age of the phone doesn't matter when it's got old hardware. It can only run what it's capable of. That would be like buying a low-end phone today, then wondering why it can't be upgraded to a something new in the future. It has its limitations. You knew what was in it (or at least you should have) when you bought it. (I'm not talking about you in particular, I'm speaking in general)

Again, the point is the comparison between apps in the Android market vs. Apple appstore. They seem more reserved with bad behavior in iOS because Apple is reviewing and may complain.

I think you're really overstating this, as there is only an extremely small percentage of the apps that have this.

Apple has been more forceful is disallowing access to data which can be considered privacy concerns. They impose new restrictions on developers. No use of device ID, no access to contacts without asking permission, no access to location data without asking permission. As a developer for both platforms, I think Apple does a better job protecting the consumer. The Android model sounded good, but Google hasn't refined it to keep it useful. The permissions should be further subdivided so that someone needing some benign permission isn't forced to ask for too much. And the all or nothing model isn't good either. Reminds me of Windows Vista User Access Control. If it warns too often, folks just turn it off or ignore the warnings.

History calls you a liar. It has already happened. Apple failed to properly sandbox developers and they had been gaining access to unknowing iPhone owner's contacts.

My point is that the animation I saw on the GS3 seems pointless. The overall intent of the iPhone UI is to make you feel like youre interacting with a physical object. You touch something and when you drag it, it moves tracking your finger as if you're really moving an object. Various animations are intended to indicate some physical 3d model. Clipboard flipping, even swiping as if something slid over it or slid across, etc.

How can an animation seem pointless? How can an animation have a point? It's an animation. It isn't necessary, and it doesn't have a point. It's purely eye candy.

On the GS3 the animation between home screens is of a board that flips back while its sliding to the side. It looks cool, but it doesn't map to any real 3d physical model I can think of. Its someone trying to make it look neat without having a good UI design behind it.

That's just really nitpicky there. You don't like the animation, just say that.

I never said anything about hands, although it can be a challenge to reach all corners with one hand.
Its more about the size. I always have a case for my phones on a belt clip. The Thunderbolt is huge already. A similar case around the GS3 would be enormous. Remember way way back in the day when people tried to make small phones. What happened to those days.
If I want a giant screen to surf the web, I'm more than happy to use my iPad3. For maps, navigation, light web surfing, iOS6 & iPhone 5 should be plenty.

You're grossly overstating the size of a holster. It actually isn't very much larger than a holster for a 4.3" phone. There have been plenty of times I picked up the wrong holster in the morning because it looks so close to my old one. You're way off on that one.

 

[dmelgar]

The Thunderbolt got updated to what it could physically handle, same with the other phones. The 1 year old phone was hardly top of the line. It consisted of old internals. The age of the phone doesn't matter when it's got old hardware. It can only run what it's capable of. That would be like buying a low-end phone today, then wondering why it can't be upgraded to a something new in the future. It has its limitations. You knew what was in it (or at least you should have) when you bought it. (I'm not talking about you in particular, I'm speaking in general)


I think you're really overstating this, as there is only an extremely small percentage of the apps that have this.



History calls you a liar. It has already happened. Apple failed to properly sandbox developers and they had been gaining access to unknowing iPhone owner's contacts.


How can an animation seem pointless? How can an animation have a point? It's an animation. It isn't necessary, and it doesn't have a point. It's purely eye candy.


That's just really nitpicky there. You don't like the animation, just say that.


You're grossly overstating the size of a holster. It actually isn't very much larger than a holster for a 4.3" phone. There have been plenty of times I picked up the wrong holster in the morning because it looks so close to my old one. You're way off on that one.

Now I see the light, you're completely right! Thank you for enlightening me!
I get it. You don't like iOS, like Android. I give.

 

[iEvolution]

I cant see how it would be difficult at all to reach all aspects of the screen at 4.8 inches, I have no problem reaching all over the screen on 7 inch tablet, unless we are talking one handed.

 

[Zaft]

I cant see how it would be difficult at all to reach all aspects of the screen at 4.8 inches, I have no problem reaching all over the screen on 7 inch tablet, unless we are talking one handed.

Pretty sure it's common sense that you can reach any part of the screen when using two hands.

 

[AAPLinc]

Now I see the light, you're completely right! Thank you for enlightening me!
I get it. You don't like iOS, like Android. I give.

Dmelgar, I've been noticing/reading his posts (he loves the android vs apple topics) and all he does is say the same stuff over and over, he's like a broken record.

He always has to get the last word in, and if he's stumped or unsure of how to respond, he'll change the subject and condescendingly speak to you like he's already won the debate and that the facts or opinions that you bring to the table have no value. It's funny, people always talk about "apple fanboys", well he is the damn messiah of android fanboys.

Oh, he also seems to have 2 or 3 specific other members that are act as his little sidekicks and will come in and stand by his side and help him convince us all (on an Apple forum) that their Android phones are Gods gift to earth, and that our iPhones are archaic, and inferior, lol.

Whatever floats your boat.

 

[NJRonbo]

Reviving this thread.

For the past week or so my mind has been dominated with the decision of whether to upgrade (from the iPhone 4) to the new iPhone 5 -or- switch over to the Samsung Galaxy S3.

This wouldn't have become the focus of my attention if not for two co-workers recently purchasing their GS3. It's hard not to fall in love with that phone.

From what we *think* we know about the upcoming iPhone 5, it doesn't look very appealing. It looks like someone took a rolling pin and stretched out its screen so now it's taller. Personally, I would rather Apple release the same size screen as the GS3, but we know that it could not be supported by the Retina display.

Unless Apple totally pulls a rabbit out of their hat next month and surprises us with a totally revamped look, I am not expecting a game-changer here.

The biggest fear I have about switching over to Android is leaving the Apple ecosystem that keeps my iMac, Macbook Pro and iPad in perfect sync. While I understand that the Google Cloud would probably work as well as iCloud does for all these devices, my fear is that information syncing would not be immediate and not without bugs.

Most of the stories I read from former iPhone users who switched to Android are mostly positive. The one thing I keep reading in post after post is how much more fluently the iOS platform works -and- how much better its Apps are over the Android counterpart.

If Apple doesn't reinvent the iPhone next month, I'll probably be switching over to the Galaxy S3 or wait for the plus version of it. In the meantime, I hope to read more reviews from iPhone users who have made the switch.

 

[Technarchy]

I wonder where Apple got the idea for a grid of icons...

They got it from...themselves...

 

[SlCKB0Y]

They got it from...themselves...

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Two can play at that game...

 

[Technarchy]

Two can play at that game...

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What game? Some silly person pontificates on why iOS features a grid of icons...Apple has been doing icons on a grid since 1984.

The presumption that it came from Blackberry is idiotic, and posting a pic from Xerox is irrelevent because it has no bearing on the question of why Apple uses a grid of icons in iOS. No one questioned where the first elements of the GUI came from.

 

[Mac.World]

They got it from...themselves...

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Not the same thing and you know it. Nor are those gridded icons anyway. Nor are they uniform. Why would Apple do this:

Instead of this? Tech was readily available, in fact this was a year 2000 BB 957. The success of the other platforms and styling of the icons is why Steve stole the idea.