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Other Looks like 120hz is not happening this year after all
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what benefit does 120Hz refresh have for professionals?
What else are the haters going to use to criticise this year’s iPhone? Hype up a feature they know was never coming to the iPhone, then pretend to be all shocked and disappointed when the iPhone ships without said feature.
It’s the same story every year.
If it's only 5G and iPhone 5 Design then why would anyone spend 4 digits to upgrade to this?!
A lot of these people seem to suddenly think not having a 120Hz refresh rate is the difference between a brilliant phone and one that is not acceptable at all. To be fair it’s only certain people interested in the pro models or tech reviewers and in the grand scheme that is a very small number of buyers. Outside of the tech community you won’t find many who will be bothered whether their phone has a 60, 90 or 120Hz refresh rate
Because they want to move from their old iPhone whatever generation it is they are coming from be it 6s or 11?
Literally, a similar “why get this new iPhone“ question could be asked of every generation, it’s all down to different people and what they want.
The Pro models aren’t for professionals, they’re for the techies.
A lot of techies on here and elsewhere who don’t buy the Pro’s though
There is plenty of tech to be excited about in the non Pro iPhones after all.
I checked out the note 20 at best buy and was impressed with the 120 hz but it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me coming from an X. I am more inclined to buy a new design which we are getting and I am going to up the size to the pro max. I was just hoping for a smaller notch. Unfortunately its not looking like that but with the bigger size and hopefully smaller bezels that will make up for it.
Because some of us like to upgrade yearly or whenever we upgrade.
If this year's rumours are true, the 11 pro>12 pro is probably one of the weakest improvements. 11>12 still seems worth it for the OLED display if that's a concern. I don't think most real people upgrade their phones every year, however; that's a MacRumors techie thing. For a typical western millennial on a 2 year contract, 12 pro even without 120hz will be a decent improvement. Then we have probably the majority of people who upgrade every 3, 4 or 5 years.
Not to mention that a lot of people don’t upgrade to the Pros as the standard iPhones offer enough.
That honestly made me chuckle however I dont feel that is the case in this particular instance. Actually I think its the opposite. I will agree we are mostly techies (myself included) and I don't think there is a thing wrong with that.
It's safe to say Apples "pro" moniker is geared toward professional video production, oddly across all their products.
A video production professional as good of color accuracy as they can get in preferably a wide color space with an HDR bit depth and if you are recording you'll want between 24hz-60hz refresh depending on what you are shooting at a resolution that doesn't restrict color accuracy and refresh rate due to bitrate so 4k preferably. This way you are starting with solid shot for more consistent grading and 4k gives more room to edit even if you are exporting 1080p (technically chroma supersampling is possible if 1080p is your output further enhancing your colors). Other features are useful however initial qualities can't be compromised in the process. If a non essential feature negatively effects essential features then its no longer the right tool for the profession/job at least at a "Pro" level.
A techie on the other hand wants specs and features to play with. Many but not all only want bigger numbers. 120hz is admittedly better and is more pleasing to use with silky smooth scrolling. However it always comes at a compromise with color accuracy, bit depth, and/or cost. Its like megapixels, more is better to a point, then its worse as the compromises start to become obvious.
Regardless 120hz isn't a production video refresh rate and if it offers no useful benefit and only comes with compromise(s) it would be more of a techie product than it would a professional product.
Point in case would be Apples $5000/$6000 Pro Display XDR which was designed specifically to compete with reference monitors in the professional space. 6k 10bit multiple reference modes etc at of course 60hz.
Even actual reference monitors used by the quintessential professional are typically 60hz. Here is a 60hz $32,000 DP-V3120.
I feel Apple could do whatever they want but they would need to make at least TWO compromises. Color accuracy, bit depth, color space, or cost. AND battery life. Phones with 100+ refresh rate typically have 8-30% more battery usage at the same resolution doing the same task. The Samsung S20 being ~20% @ 120hz vs its own 60hz mode in the middle. That is highly based on usage though. But 20% is A LOT of battery! That would be at least 2+ additional hours for me, nearly a day for someone that isn't addicted to their phone.
I hate to go on an Apple vs the competition tangent however thats exactly what it is, Apple vs everyone else. Meanwhile Samsung phones (which I'm not knocking and I'm sure they are brilliant phone) is versus Apple AND Oppo, HTC, Xiaomi, Googles lineup, etc etc, etc. Because of that they are in a tough position and they need you to see in writing why their phone is better. Even if the 9" 4k 244hz wrap around screen kills the battery in 2 hours displaying your 8k 12 bit video you recorded unless you turn the settings down it doesn't really matter because the battery spec is 10000000mAh battery which is bigger. And thats all it is, its not better because battery size doesn't matter, battery life and runtime is what matters but that is harder to sell. Meanwhile.....
Feature length movies on Amazon can be shot on an iPhone 7+. Is there even a point for these specs wars?! Jump on Amazon and watch some of those movies. Personally not really my favorite but the videography is amazing and when you think it was shot on an iPhone it really puts in perspective how the bottle neck with a phone isn't its specs its the way we use it. I know I'm getting off track and leaning more toward the camera side of specs. But video your shot on a device that can properly display it is just as important (hmmm log?)....
All that said, like I mentioned I'm more of a techie. And I don't need near perfect calibration to the P3 color space out of the box. I can only notice a difference in color spaces when monitors are side by side. However I do like the silky smooth scrolling of a 120hz display. But I think it would help us all (myself included) to sometimes realize there is a reason Apples tech is usually late to the game.
Sorry that rant wasn't directed at you @Marlon DLTH :)