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But with M1 or m2 SoCs or any SoCs you can't replace ANYTHING anyway! Even non-Apple!
I understand, but we're talking storage and it was a conscience decision by apple to solder the storage.

Apple will keep blowing Framework laptop performance out of the water going forward with more SoCs
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Looks like the Core i9 13980HX is the one blowing the M1 and M2 Max out of the water ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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I understand, but we're talking storage and it was a conscience decision by apple to solder the storage.


Really?

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Looks like the Core i9 13980HX is the one blowing the M1 and M2 Max out of the water ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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But if the whole system is soldered and tightly together, it would be odd to just have the ssd replaceable...not to support Apple in their decision, but just saying.
 
But if the whole system is soldered and tightly together, it would be odd to just have the ssd replaceable...not to support Apple in their decision, but just saying.
Take a look at the Mac Studio, its storage is not soldered so its not as odd as you think it is.
 
I understand, but we're talking storage and it was a conscience decision by apple to solder the storage.


Really?

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Looks like the Core i9 13980HX is the one blowing the M1 and M2 Max out of the water ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Let me correct myself. The M chips are going to blow the Frameworlk laptop out of the water in performance-per-watt. The Framework laptops will for now still be faster, but they have nowhere near the battery life or efficiency of the M chips.
 
So I'm thinking of buying a new Mbp which costs 1900, and my budget is 2400 for everything, and I hear a lot how paying for AC+ is really worth it and stupid not to, but it really basically eats up all of my leftover budget I need for accessories, like external SSDs, chargers, bag, etc. What should I do?
Get the AC+, and have the peace of mind knowing you've got top class customer service at your beck and call, 24 hours a day, for three years. I think you've got three months once you receive your laptop to decide on getting the extended coverage. Definitely, definitely get AppleCare+.
 
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Let me correct myself. The M chips are going to blow the Frameworlk laptop out of the water in performance-per-watt.
Now you're moving the goal posts. You clearly stated explicitly and contextually Soc designs are faster then the old x86 architecture. Yes, the ARM based Macs will out perform and out lost Macs on battery, but that's not what you said.

Also in my field and circle of people, the majority of people who use laptops do so while plugged in, so in those situations where you want render a video, play a game, do complex calculations the X86 laptops have the edge.
 
Get the AC+, and have the peace of mind knowing you've got top class customer service at your beck and call, 24 hours a day, for three years. I think you've got three months once you receive your laptop to decide on getting the extended coverage. Definitely, definitely get AppleCare+.
I probably will get it later on. I need the money I saved by not getting AC+ now for accessories.
 
Now you're moving the goal posts. You clearly stated explicitly and contextually Soc designs are faster then the old x86 architecture. Yes, the ARM based Macs will out perform and out lost Macs on battery, but that's not what you said.

Also in my field and circle of people, the majority of people who use laptops do so while plugged in, so in those situations where you want render a video, play a game, do complex calculations the X86 laptops have the edge.
I'm sorry if I was moving the goal posts. I think ARM is the future of computing IMO and is very very impressive.
 
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I will say your responses have been respectful, insightful and mature. Sadly we see too many posts where people blindly defend apple at the expense of logic, respect and common curtesy
Please help me in my decision.
I'm deciding between a 16 inch m1 pro MBP with 16gb of ram, or a 16 inch m1pro MBP with 32gb of ram for only 100 more for my photo and video editing and multitasking. The thing is that with the 32g model I get a 512gb ssd, which I'm worried is not enough for apps and overall, and I know I can have external storage, but internal has to be enough as well for the apps, etc., and with the 16g model I get a 1tb ssd. So, more RAM or more SSD. The thing is that i think having double the ram is the better choice, but im worried that 512gb of storage internal will not be enough. For big files, they will be kept on external SSDs. Please help!
 
Also illogical. The word has 3 syllables.
A lot of pronunciation isn't logical. However, the official American pronunciation is what I wrote (although some phonetic guides go "saa·drd"). The "official" British pronunciation is also two syllables: "sowl·duhd". Anything more than that is non-standard.
 
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Please help me in my decision.
I'm deciding between a 16 inch m1 pro MBP with 16gb of ram, or a 16 inch m1pro MBP with 32gb of ram for only 100 more for my photo and video editing and multitasking. The thing is that with the 32g model I get a 512gb ssd, which I'm worried is not enough for apps and overall, and I know I can have external storage, but internal has to be enough as well for the apps, etc., and with the 16g model I get a 1tb ssd. So, more RAM or more SSD. The thing is that i think having double the ram is the better choice, but im worried that 512gb of storage internal will not be enough. For big files, they will be kept on external SSDs. Please help!
Don't forget to backup: budget for an external drive that you can plug into your Mac for Time Machine to do its magic. I use a SanDisk SSD: in case a retrieval is required, SSDs are very fast. Maybe someone here will have a good external HDD suggestion, but I'm very happy with my SSD.
 
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Don't forget to backup: budget for an external drive that you can plug into your Mac for Time Machine to do its magic. I use a SanDisk SSD: in case a retrieval is required, SSDs are very fast. Maybe someone here will have a good external HDD suggestion, but I'm very happy with my SSD.
Thanks. I really wish the 32gb MBP I'm looking at under 2000 would have a 1tb ssd...but 512gb should suffice.
 
Rossmann and others are against this, of course. That's the whole point, really.
Yeah, but they aren’t bringing up the design. It’s generic nonsense. He never bought up the storage controller nor security. Soldering or not doesn’t make any difference.
 
Yeah, but they aren’t bringing up the design. It’s generic nonsense. He never bought up the storage controller nor security. Soldering or not doesn’t make any difference.
Soldering a ssd is more secure than having it removable, because if somebody steals your laptop with your data in it they probably can't get through the password, but then they can't just remove the drive and plug it in to another computer and access your data either. But it's also more secure for Apple, more secure for them since they can sleep well knowing you cannot replace anything, so you have to buy a new computer if something goes wrong🤑
 
Soldering a ssd is more secure than having it removable, because if somebody steals your laptop with your data in it they probably can't get through the password, but then they can't just remove the drive and plug it in to another computer and access your data either. But it's also more secure for Apple, more secure for them since they can sleep well knowing you cannot replace anything, so you have to buy a new computer if something goes wrong🤑
The security is about hardware AES encryption in storage controller. When the storage is replaced, the new chips have to be mapped, if not they won’t work. Soldering or not soldering doesn’t make any difference unless you have access to configurator to map the new storage. It’s like barking at the wrong tree.
 
The security is about hardware AES encryption in storage controller. When the storage is replaced, the new chips have to be mapped, if not they won’t work. Soldering or not soldering doesn’t make any difference unless you have access to configurator to map the new storage. It’s like barking at the wrong tree.
Ok, I thought it worked like on older machines...where you can just remove the drive and access it's data.
 
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