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Still focusing on speculation of his intentions rather than on his actual argument. We can argue about intentions all day long, but I can't read your mind, his mind, and neither can you read mine. I'd prefer to speak about the facts themselves.

Anything else is a diversion and a distraction from the point.
His argument is incomplete at best, and manipulative at worst. The moment he went on rant with out talking about security, and encryption, the argument is mute. Are you Louis Rossmann by any chance?
 
His argument is incomplete at best, and manipulative at worst. The moment he went on rant with out talking about security, and encryption, the argument is mute. Are you Louis Rossmann by any chance?
Am I Louis Rossman? Of course not, but I'm glad you think fondly enough of me to consider asking that question. :)

Furthermore, the security arguments people are making in this thread are based on the premise that security and repairability are mutually exclusive things. I don't believe that these two things are mutually exclusive.
 
Yes, with default encryption, Some one has to physically have access to your mac and then go through recovery mode. With filevault enabled, it will tie the disk uid with your password. It needs password to do anything with the drive in recovery. I have filevault enabled in my Macs.
Ok. I understand now. Thanks.
However, can someone just then get access to your data on the drive without jnowing the password of the mac by getting into recovery mode?
 
I had to ship my MacBook Air twice to get the right speaker repaired. Apple had to replace the Logic Board.

Thankfully, I had AppleCare otherwise that was hundreds of dollars along with the down time without my laptop. The Apple store is just an intake to ship computers back.
It’s like an insurance. I had my MBP destroyed in airport security by a crazy woman throwing bins around coz she was running late for her flight. Luckily AC+ saved me with screen, body replacement. That repair paid for my next few AC+ purchases.
 
It’s like an insurance. I had my MBP destroyed in airport security by a crazy woman throwing bins around coz she was running late for her flight. Luckily AC+ saved me with screen, body replacement. That repair paid for my next few AC+ purchases.
I want AC+, but I will get it later on because for now I need that money I would spend on it to get accessories for the new MBP.
 
I'm not one either but I had a long thread exceeding 7 pages and some members writing in were not happy with how long the thread was...
Yea, I'm just gonna let the mods be the mods on this one. I'm sure it's fine, there are threads that are much longer than this around here. If they end up closing it, it'll probably be because it becomes uncivil or something and not because of the length, but that's their discretion at the end of the day.
 
Yea, I'm just gonna let the mods be the mods on this one. I'm sure it's fine, there are threads that are much longer than this around here. If they end up closing it, it'll probably be because it becomes uncivil or something and not because of the length, but that's their discretion at the end of the day.
...or because it keeps going in circles like mine was:rolleyes:
 
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Ok. I understand now. Thanks.
However, can someone just then get access to your data on the drive without jnowing the password of the mac by getting into recovery mode?
No. You can erase the data, reinstall mac but won’t have access to data. It’s usually the last resort if you forgot password. Recovery-> setup the computer. And Of course the iCloud/find my activation lock still applies to use the reinstalled OS. if it is stolen device. If you have find my disabled, it is good idea to enable it.
 
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People like Louis Rossman are the heroes of this world. Without them, there would be nobody to advocate against the industry's aggressive anti-repair agenda. Apple is one of the worst companies for this, and ultimately it hurts you, the consumer.
Apple is at least taking some steps in the right direction now. More repairable iPhone designs are coming out, they're allowing AppleCare to be paid annually and kept long-term, they're rolling out the self repair program (although realistically, this isn't viable for everyone, but at least it's a step in the right direction), among other things.

It's still a long ways away from how it used to be (I miss the days of the 2012 era MacBooks), and some things probably will never return (such as upgradable RAM, which is unrealistic to expect since Apple has moved to their unified memory architecture). Because the industry has evolved and changed, we will likely never see the same level of modularity that we saw before, but I really do believe that several years down the road, Apple will have much more repairable and flexible products than they do today.
 
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Louis Rossman is a terrible complain-for-clicks trash youtuber.

I recall Louis argued about how Apple doesn't need to change the design, they just wanted the parts/tools that Apple uses. Now that Apple has provided it, he's now arguing about how Apple needs to change the design.

What a tool.
 
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Louis Rossman is a terrible complain-for-clicks trash youtuber.

I recall Louis argued about how Apple doesn't need to change the design, they just wanted the parts/tools that Apple uses. Now that Apple has provided it, he's now arguing about how Apple needs to change the design.

What a tool.
Trash youtuber here! :)

Post a link to where we can buy the proprietary NANDs used on the 820-01700 new(NOT junk off a donor board w/ 50 tB write cycles already..), and I'll wire you $1000. I always appreciate learning new sources for parts.
 
A lot of pronunciation isn't logical. However, the official American pronunciation is what I wrote (although some phonetic guides go "saa·drd"). The "official" British pronunciation is also two syllables: "sowl·duhd". Anything more than that is non-standard.

It doesn't seem consistent with the American pronunciation of "sold" which is the same as the British one - "sowld". I guess I'm just curious as to how it must have morphed into "saa.drd" at some point.

I stand corrected on the number of syllables!
 
Better question is, when is the last time someones SSD died? Outside of anomalies most will last longer than the life of the machine especially in Apple’s case when it can’t be moved from computer to computer.

I don’t mind Louis but he obviously has an agenda and as someone who grew up building pc’s I just don’t care anymore about swapping parts but I do expect them to last. If I felt strongly about it I simply wouldn’t buy it.
I couldn't agree more, I muted this guy on Youtube years ago! He's not exactly wrong about what he says but again he's not right either. The point you made pretty much explains that. The way people use computers has changed and the way computers are made has changed VASTLY too! He needs to get with the times I think, and maybe calm down a bit too.
 
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Still focusing on speculation of his intentions rather than on his actual argument. We can argue about intentions all day long, but I can't read your mind, his mind, and neither can you read mine. I'd prefer to speak about the facts themselves.

Anything else is a diversion and a distraction from the point.
Ah, so speculation is not useful to you, and you prefer only to speak about "facts", is that right?

So you'd then consider any speculation about Apple's intentions on soldering components in to machines a diversion and distraction from the point then. Like the speculation that Apple does this for planned obsolesce and/or purely revenue reasons. Or, for that matter, your speculation that security v. repairability don't represent trade-offs, which would mean that Apple intentionally uses that as false cover. Or speculation that mentioning AdBlock on your channel in videos viewed by millions of people has a significant negative impact on video monetization, so much so that one would be intentionally "doing a bad job" of monetizing their channel in favor of ideological purity.

Unless you, Rossman, and/or someone else is an engineer involved in designing Apple's laptops, or an exec looking at internal data and giving the order to cripple user-reparability purely for profit reasons, all you are doing is speculating on what Apple's intentions (and capabilities) are for their design decisions, which doesn't meet your own standard.

Or are you reading Apple's (and other companies') mind for these "facts"?
 
As a brit it also cracks me up whenever they say it
It's because Americans are being more sophisticated and globally aware, using the original pronunciation of the word as it was derived from the French "souder". It's the Brits who diverged on this one!
 
Ah, so speculation is not useful to you, and you prefer only to speak about "facts", is that right?

So you'd then consider any speculation about Apple's intentions on soldering components in to machines a diversion and distraction from the point then. Like the speculation that Apple does this for planned obsolesce and/or purely revenue reasons. Or, for that matter, your speculation that security v. repairability don't represent trade-offs, which would mean that Apple intentionally uses that as false cover. Or speculation that mentioning AdBlock on your channel in videos viewed by millions of people has a significant negative impact on video monetization, so much so that one would be intentionally "doing a bad job" of monetizing their channel in favor of ideological purity.

Unless you, Rossman, and/or someone else is an engineer involved in designing Apple's laptops, or an exec looking at internal data and giving the order to cripple user-reparability purely for profit reasons, all you are doing is speculating on what Apple's intentions (and capabilities) are for their design decisions, which doesn't meet your own standard.

Or are you reading Apple's (and other companies') mind for these "facts"?
With all due respect, I have shared exactly why I don't believe security and repairability are necessarily trade offs with regards to this particularly issue, and to share again briefly why this is the case, I'll present the Mac Studio and the Mac Pro. Both of which allow SSDs to be replaced (in the Mac Studio's case, only with the exact same configuration, but in the Mac Pro's case, they will even sell you upgrade kits). Apple allows you to use Apple Configurator to re-pair the new storage modules to the device (which allows the device to recognize the new storage modules and to be able to use standard hardware encryption and everything else that goes along with it).

These are on the most expensive devices they sell, and these are the devices that professionals (and by extension, some of the users with the highest profile use cases who will often need security the most) are going to use. Let me ask a question: Do you think Apple would cut corners on security for the most expensive and most professional devices that they sell? If not, then why would it then be an automatic inherent trade off between security and repairability, in which case improving repairability must be at the expense of better security?

If these two things are mutually exclusive, then why has Apple has given the worst security to the Mac Pro and the Mac Studio, where they do allow these SSDs to be repaired or replaced (and where professional users are going to need security the most)?
 
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