You won't get any argument from me there.You might be right, but it doesn't change the fact that Apple has made it impossible to replace the SSD. Or RAM. Or anything on the SoC.
You won't get any argument from me there.You might be right, but it doesn't change the fact that Apple has made it impossible to replace the SSD. Or RAM. Or anything on the SoC.
Would also be a huge burden if you run a business and rely entirely on Macs throughout your workflow.There isn't a difference! If the device gets water damaged or some other component on the board fails (meaning no power/inability to turn on the computer), you cannot retrieve your data. It is simply unfair and predatory to design something that cannot be recovered after the fact. I have seen so many customers lose their data at my job because of bad backup practises. The real reason they do this, is so people can't upgrade the storage themselves.
probably, as the bulk of word processors automatically back up to the cloud, or are just located in the cloud already.Do you really think a twenty-something year old working all night on his thesis, and the logic board craps out will have a backup?
I’m an American and say it “saw-dur” (sɑː.dɚ) and “saw-durd” (or saa·drd).Why do Americans pronounce Soldered as "sar-dud" rather than "Soul-derr-d"? They literally miss out the entire middle part of the word.
No. That would never work. The SSD is inextricably tied to the Secure Element on the logic board, where the encryption key is stored. No data can be recovered from an SSD that is separated from the logic board.The SSD failing is not the issue, a board-level component is, rendering the data inaccessible. If it was separate it could be popped into an external enclosure and backed up, just like the 2015 Macs.
I’m an American and say it “saw-dur” and “saw-durd”.
No. That would never work. The SSD is inextricably tied to the Secure Element on the logic board, where the encryption key is stored. No data can be recovered from an SSD that is separated from the logic board.
Apple is returning my MBP today, it's the third time they have repaired it this year. 1st was the display, 2nd was the logic board, this time they suspect it was the SSD. The back and forth is getting old
He goes into M1/2 macs using NANDs that are different from any other computer, how they short to ground, and if your SSD dies, you can't fix it unless you're willing to spend around $1,000 on a repair. He gets really detailed on the engineering, and it's pretty crazy what Apple is doing, to save a few bucks during the manufacturing process.
We also say aluminum instead of aluminium. 😂Why do Americans pronounce Soldered as "sar-dud" rather than "Soul-derr-d"? They literally miss out the entire middle part of the word.
So do you think its even remotely conceivable that certain regions in the vast United States will pronounce words differently, including soldering?Only certain regions of Britain do that. The standard pronunciation always includes the T.
But that doesn't take away the fact that computer makers soldering components on the logic board (or motherboard for PCs) is inherently anti-consumer and anti-right to repair.probably, as the bulk of word processors automatically back up to the cloud, or are just located in the cloud already.
Apples iWork goes into iCloud by default.
Google Drive, Microsoft 365, all of those others are obviously cloud-based.
Yes but by making the ssd and ram not replaceable means that if someone wants more ram/storage or wants to replace them they have to buy a whole new computer, which costs much more usually than just storage or ram, thus resulting in more profit for the manufacturer.I think profit is the real reason. A SoC is cheaper to build so Apple's profits increase after R&D costs are paid for.
FYI it's pretty hard (no, basically impossible) to replace ANYTHING on a SoC, because everything is so tightly integrated and the tolerances are also very high, so you'd mess it up very easily trying to remove or replace ANYTHING.You might be right, but it doesn't change the fact that Apple has made it impossible to replace the SSD. Or RAM. Or anything on the SoC.
You might be right, but it doesn't change the fact that Apple has made it impossible to replace the SSD. Or RAM. Or anything on the SoC.
That’s what they do, and they store the key in the Secure Enclave.This is what I'm saying; just encrypt the drive with keys like BitLocker does (In a considerably more secure way, granted)
Exactly!! Are we really having this discussion about data loss in 2023? If you're doing "up to the minute" work on a Mac that would be catastrophic to lose in an SSD failure and NOT using Time Machine and DON'T have a 3-2-1 backup strategy in place then I really don't feel bad for you. Somewhere Steve is rolling his eyes.Rossmann's entire schtick is to sell outrage and hyperbole to an undiscerning audience of mostly young men for YouTube engagement. He skirts the line between a YouTube reactionary and a self-help huckster and it's very successful.
Time Machine has been built into the system since 2007 and can do hourly, daily, weekly or monthly backups automatically.
Does Apple anywhere recommend backups?Exactly!! Are we really having this discussion about data loss in 2023? If you're doing "up to the minute" work on a Mac that would be catastrophic to lose in an SSD failure and NOT using Time Machine and DON'T have a 3-2-1 backup strategy in place then I really don't feel bad for you. Somewhere Steve is rolling his eyes.
Wait until you hear how the Brits say "Leicester".Why do Americans pronounce Soldered as "sar-dud" rather than "Soul-derr-d"? They literally miss out the entire middle part of the word.
Bitlocker uses the TPM by default. And the TPM is a chip on the logic board. The data on the SSD cannot be read without the TPM.This is what I'm saying; just encrypt the drive with keys like BitLocker does.
Apple makes it ridiculously simple to back up your files. iCloud Backup saves all of my files, photos, and music. iCloud backups make it possible to take a hammer to your computer, get a new computer, and restore from it without losing any files. You may have to reinstall apps, but your files will all be there.You back up every night, outside of at work? Really?
If you do, you're 1 in 1,000.
*checks notes*But that doesn't take away the fact that computer makers soldering components on the logic board (or motherboard for PCs) is inherently anti-consumer and anti-right to repair.
I run it every couple of weeks on mine. I'm gonna need to get a bigger drive to back up my new one, I'm gonna have to resort to manually backing up the important stuff in the meantime.Apple makes it ridiculously simple to back up your files. iCloud Backup saves all of my files, photos, and music. iCloud backups make it possible to take a hammer to your computer, get a new computer, and restore from it without losing any files. You may have to reinstall apps, but your files will all be there.
Just in case, I have an external drive that runs TimeMachine every hour. I have never needed to use it when I've replaced my computer.
yesDoes Apple anywhere recommend backups?
You're correct on everything you mentioned on your comment, however it's closer to 10,000 writes per block. Enterprise-class drives might have even higher numbers.[...] SSDs have a finite lifespan of about a thousand writes. [...]
This is not even remotely a new problem. Laptops get dropped, lost or broken in a variety of ways and it's always been this way.Yes, but that doesn't remove the fact that there may be data on the drive that you need access which may not be backed up. I get cloud based backups, but I'm talking about average consumers. Do you really think a twenty-something year old working all night on his thesis, and the logic board craps out will have a backup?
There are a lot of great reasons for Apple's products to be more serviceable, sustainability being very high on the list.I get the value of the backup, but its a sad move to justify an anti-consumer move and support apple (and others) who seem to want to make these these disposable products