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See, him saying good for customer, “conflict of interest”, him not defending Customer, “he should know more than this. Why he doesn’t spearhead the whole process”. He just can’t win regardless, so he picked his side and moved on.

Unless you run what I call “real-time backup”, meaning every single I/O operation performed by the machine is backed up exactly to a replica, exactly when it happens, there will always be a gap between current data and yesterday‘s backup. What happens if your critical data falls into that gap?

Cloud storage? Same argument applies: your machine dies before you can upload files to the cloud. What gives?

Apple is not doing customer’s favor by soldering the storage to the board and tie it to the board. What if some capacitors/resistors fail and board is not operational anymore, yet those SSD flash chips remains unharmed? “Buy a new computer, spend another $9000” instead of trying to recover the data before throwing the board away?

If you are comfortable buying a new computer every time something bad happens to the hardware, good for you.
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If Apple were interested in Data safety they'd offer inbuilt Raid
 
I'm just tired of the direction the tech industry has been taking this last decade. More tightly integrated systems, an overemphasis on janky cloud software over software that runs on local hardware, more DRM, more anti-consumer behavior and obsession over trends, one week its crypto, the next blockchain now AI. I wish everyone would chill the hell out for 2 seconds and just make good quality products and serve customers. This isn't rocket science, just because
one big tech company is soldering SSDs doesn't mean all of them have to. Just because Microsoft is into AI doesn't mean Apple needs a damn AI solution.

I miss when PC meant Personal Computer.
 
They mitigate this problem by providing such insanely priced SSDs that I imagine any of us doing real media work are working off externals anyways… I’m buying a Mac Studio right now and im getting 1TB inside just to use to use as a boot drive, hold my apps and as a scratch disc for adobe… all my actual data will be on a 4TB NVME SSD just like I’ve been doing with my current intel imac.
 
New account created JUST to post this YouTube video? Hmmmm…

Searching the name brought up this.
“https://rossmanngroup.com/”

I would actually EXPECT that someone who makes money via repairs would prefer that companies make their systems more repairable. Rather than, you know, see that the business is trending down and get into another line of business.

Not a conflict of interest AT ALL. :)
So this is suddenly Big Repair against Big Apple ? Louis Rossmann doesn’t at all have the same money in the game as Apple, but he has the moral argument. And the vast majority I would proffer would probably just buy a replacement machine rather than go for a repair in the multitude of unvouched for repair shops that litter our streets, shops that aren’t authorised by Apple so regardless of the poster, the moral point still remains about this artificially limiting practice. Just even the fact that you reach your disk capacity and want to add more space - impossible after you click the Purchase button.
 
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Louis Rossmann doesn’t at all have the same money in the game as Apple, but he has the moral argument.

He doesn’t have a moral argument in any way, he has an opinion that he attempts to frame as a moral argument in an effort to give it undue weight.

And he absolutely has the same money in the game— the estimates I see is that he’s making hundreds of thousands of dollars from that YouTube channel. And before arguing absolute dollars, which is irrelevant anyway, consider whether Apple is more likely to go out of business because of socketing an SSD than Rossmann would be if he lost his YouTube channel. That’s a motivator for parasitic enterprises like this.
 
Every day, according to my frustrated genius bar guy, when one sent my logic board into the trash just out of Applecare. SSDs have a finite lifespan of about a thousand writes. The filesystem mitigates the effects of wear by various strategies but it still isnt a lot no matter how you spread it around. Rossman isnt incorrect, people pay him good money to try to repair Apple’s mistakes all day long. Soldiering the ssds to the board serves only two purposes: 1, its cheaper to produce, and 2, it limits the lifespan of the entire machine to its fastest wearing component. When pressed Apple gave the excuse that it was required for the highest speed performance, though that was slower than plenty of non-soldiered drives outside the PR bubble.

You guys are discussing this like it's some foggy hypothetical. The complaining about this took place about 6 years ago when Apple got really aggressive about user-hostile design and cost engineering every nickel possible out of their production. Didn‘t matter. Apple doesnt care and neither do the kids. Every year fifty million more buy whatever is being sold, and they go right out and buy a new one when it dies, and that's just the way everyone likes it.
and yet after heavy use, I gave my 2014 MBP to a friend, and he is still using it heavily. so if the SSDs have such a limited life, why hasn't it failed? That is almost 10-years of heavy use. In fact, I don't personally know anyone who has ever had an SSD of any brand fail. Sure, in the before times when SSDs were just developed, there were issues, But instead of the discussing hypotheticals, I would like to see someone get some real solid statistics from a reputable source. Everything I've seen says SSDs are way more reliable than HDDs. But some of this discussion implies that you can barely get a year out of them. Not seeing it.

That being said, who wouldn't want to user replace RAM and SSDs on a computer?
 
They mitigate this problem by providing such insanely priced SSDs that I imagine any of us doing real media work are working off externals anyways… I’m buying a Mac Studio right now and im getting 1TB inside just to use to use as a boot drive, hold my apps and as a scratch disc for adobe… all my actual data will be on a 4TB NVME SSD just like I’ve been doing with my current intel imac.
With how fast externals are and 10/40/100 Gb network, it makes sense. I only keep application data on my internal drives now.
 
and yet after heavy use, I gave my 2014 MBP to a friend, and he is still using it heavily. so if the SSDs have such a limited life, why hasn't it failed? That is almost 10-years of heavy use. In fact, I don't personally know anyone who has ever had an SSD of any brand fail. Sure, in the before times when SSDs were just developed, there were issues, But instead of the discussing hypotheticals, I would like to see someone get some real solid statistics from a reputable source. Everything I've seen says SSDs are way more reliable than HDDs. But some of this discussion implies that you can barely get a year out of them. Not seeing it.

That being said, who wouldn't want to user replace RAM and SSDs on a computer?
I believe the lifecycle of the SSDs are being horribly underestimated. From a 4/12/2023 article, which should be more current:
You will find key differences in the flash endurance of single-level cell (SLC), multi-level cell (MLC), and triple-level cell (TLC) architecture:

  • SLC NAND flash can endure around 50,000 to 1,00,000 write cycles.
  • MLC NAND flash can sustain up to 3,000 write cycles. eMLC or enterprise MLC version supports about 10,000 write cycles.
  • TLC NAND Flash has low endurance and can take about 300 to 1,000 write cycles.
https://www.enterprisestorageforum.com/hardware/ssd-lifespan-how-long-will-your-ssd-work/

And I wish I could swap out my RAM and SSD on my Mac Mini like my trusty old 2012 Mini did.
 
Somehow backup is critical for academic degree…
People are so ruthless when that problem is not on them.
Agreed. It's easy to point fingers, but we've all been there. I try to backup my important data regularly, but I can't pretend that I run backups every single day. Data loss happens.
 
If you are that concerned, do what I just did and upgrade to 40Gbps network and get a NAS.
But you can’t carry NAS around when traveling, at least not easily.
Besides, the point is to counter argue those saying having backup means soldering ssd to motherboard is justifiable.
 
But you can’t carry NAS around when traveling, at least not easily.
Besides, the point is to counter argue those saying having backup means soldering ssd to motherboard is justifiable.
No but that’s what my Samsung T7s are for.
 
Agree they should make a slot and put that as a marketing point for green sustainability.

Agree this is an issue in theory rather than in practice. Unless acticely seeking out a way, people don’t wear out their SSD’s. But it’s still easy to fix.

I still don’t really like Rossman. He just found that there is a huge nerdy counter-culture crowd that hates Apple and that making content to please these people is right in his wheelhouse. Mostly a seed of valid criticism but he packages it like its all Apple issues rather than industry ones, as that will get him the most clicks.
 
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That’s why we back up.
THiS! If you utilize your account properly you can get all you've done back without even utilizing for example Time Machine backups. I utilize optimize storage within macOS, Time Machine backups, a clone, and off-site backups with Backblaze. Multi-pronged to ensure optimal uptime and in the event of hardware failure or just getting a new Mac, I'm back up and running without a hiccup.
 
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I still don’t really like Rossman. He just found that there is a huge nerdy counter-culture crowd that hates Apple and that making content to please these people is right in his wheelhouse. Mostly a seed of valid criticism but he packages it like its all Apple issues rather than industry ones, as that will get him the most clicks.
Eh, to each their own. Some people like him, others don't. I don't necessarily agree with his conclusions about Apple (I don't consider Apple to be a bad or an anti consumer company by and large), but some of his criticisms are, in my opinion, perfectly valid.

Apple does make things painful for people in the repair business on certain things, and if you don't have Apple care (or have had your Mac for more than three years, which, let's be honest, is the norm for most people), the prices for getting these things repaired at Apple is going to be very, very expensive. Those who have the money to spare (or who are tech enthusiasts and who enjoy upgrading every other generation) will just buy a new one, but for the majority of the userbase, people are just going to want their devices fixed.

Louis Rossman is the voice of people who have had their Macs for 3+ years and who don't want to pay $1,000 to get something fairly simple repaired. It's fair, in my opinion. Will he ever like Apple? Probably not, and that's his right. I disagree with him on his conclusions about Apple, but I can absolutely understand where he's coming from with his criticisms about repairability. On many of these things, I don't think he's wrong.
 
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He, like Linus Tech Tips have done a lot of good to amplify the voice of consumer rights and right to repair. I would never say otherwise. That also
doesn’t make him any less of an engagement-chasing self help peddling huckster.
They did a cross-over episode once, when LTT butterfingered their brand new iMac Pro. ONCE. It was pretty bad. Not just because Rossman has the on-scree personality of the average HVAC technician, but also because their outrage was so contrived and niche.
 
Apple does make things painful for people in the repair business on certain things, and if you don't have Apple care (or have had your Mac for more than three years, which, let's be honest, is the norm for most people), the prices for getting these things repaired at Apple is going to be very, very expensive. Those who have the money to spare (or who are tech enthusiasts and who enjoy upgrading every other generation) will just buy a new one, but for the majority of the userbase, people are just going to want their devices fixed.
Apple repair is expensive, yes. But generally it's one-and-done, the problem is fixed on-time and perfectly. I have a local 3rd party repair shop that seems to be about as good as I can expect and when I've used them for devices that I don't have AppleCare on, it's a coin flip honestly... maybe it will be totally fixed. Or maybe not, or there will be some other new issue or imperfection as a result of a 8/10 repair job. But they're much cheaper so sometimes I roll the dice.
 
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