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M1 MacBook Air black uniformity (red glow)
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I think my Air 2018 was FV too. But it could be some region thing too where they sell which. I'm in EU area.
Anyway we need to investigate this more but now I gotta run for New Year celebrations and such.
I think it would help if you could list your camera settings and perhaps try taking 12 Pro photos with long exposure too. Because like I said that pattern on the right look notorious. Also when looking this issue make sure you are in dark room and give your eyes time to adjust.
I'm just giving ya my honest opinion, I am very perceptive with tint and screens and I looked long and hard at it and I simply don't see red - you can believe it or not, doesn't really matter haha. but some of those photos are long exposure of like 1-2 seconds handheld bc they have to be due to low light. I'm not going to find the camera settings, that's a bit much. I have nothing to gain by hiding it, I'm not married to the idea that products are flaw free they definitely aren't and there's always a lotto.
But mine simple doesn't exhibit red on blacks and I am one of the pickier on this forum particularly with iPhone screens as I don't upgrade my laptop nearly as often as my phone. Anywhere near. True I won't go through twelve units of a generation to give up, but I will go through hell and high water if it's a product I like and know I'll hold onto for a while. And this aint a turd of a screen, I've seen many turd screens across different products. hope to keep my 12 pro for at least two years for this very reason.
But of course, I'm a sample of one person with one unit. If I had more than one I could see this perhaps in more depth, but as it stands I'm not going to play the exchange game
3 second and 2 second exposure, 100% brightness in a pitch black room, notwithstanding light showing through the bottom of the door in the other room
They're simply a different looking hue and more diffused than your photograph/panel, which is obviously magenta. I see no magenta to my eyes or even with these photos which aren't fully representative of what I'm seeing anyways
But I don't see magenta.
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It might be my XR that exaggerates the color intensity... your left side looks almost white... I tried to reproduce the intensity but no chance. All I get is this...
It's funny because you have exactly the same pattern as everyone. My corner is more magenta but my left side is more a dark grey...
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I turned down the light value of your pic with iPhoto. And look:
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Not a photo I posted has the cursor in that spot as far as I can tell. haha
Anyways- you modified a photograph to suit your assessment? That's a little odd considering I've given you my naked eye observation
Oh well, I don't have a problem with you think I have an affected panel. I see zero magenta in blacks watching trailers, looking at a black desktop, etc etc
I rest my case
Oh i might have uploaded the wrong pic. Sorry.
You get me wrong, I don’t want to modify a pic just to proof me right or to proof that you have an affected panel, I just want to help OP to find out if this is a pattern and every model is affected or if there are any “good” ones. I’m really satisfied with my MacBook Air and I don't want to spoil anything for you or make your panel bad. I hope you enjoy your new Macbook as I do.
Your left part of the screen looks very bright and I was wondering first if this is really black, I mean it's almost white. The reason I modified your photograph is to show OP and you that your screen also shows the pattern when the brightness is adjusted to something similar to other pics in the thread.
Please, I trust your naked eye observation, I trust mine. I don't see anything with my naked eye. I can't notice a red or blue. It looks perfect. As a lot of people stated in this post, the red glow is only revealed by camera.
This should be your pic now. Turning down the light value reveals that your screen is darker on the right side.
Again I don't want to say something against your naked eye observation. It may be even ridiculous to discuss something that isn't even visible for most eyes. I just want to help OP and other people who might be concerned that this is a problem. I don't think it is one, I believe it is some kind of coating at it may be applied in a way that it gets darker on the right side...
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fair enough thanks for clarifying intentions.
even with your modifications, I'm simply not seeing the strong magenta I see in upper right on original photo or the one you took with yours using XR. I wouldn't say that's because you're on XR I'm using 12 Pro, either. I agree it looks like it could be the same as yours, but when I compare mine to ones posted here side by side, I see a clear difference in the hue and intensity. I would argue you're believing mine is the same, because there is some variation in the same general area where yours is, the suspected area in question, but the intensity is what makes the difference. ostensibly.
I think they ALL exhibit similar characteristics generally speaking in terms of what the camera picks up to some extent that the eye doesn't from a high level, and it CAN reveal an issue that is actually there, on some/many but not all.
BUT - I think its one of those things, with this red tint which is the subject of the thread- some barely pass the mark and others barely don't and some extremely don't. Assuming its someone observant, looking at the different degrees of panels and their inherent variation next to each other in the same conditions. until someone has a few units on hand to photograph (which won't be me), are all we have to go off of on this forum.
Similarly - with discussions of yellow screen iPhone 12's (of which there's over 200 pages now), there isn't debate as to the iPhone used and settings, exposure, etc. to document it - because it's not a new issue to iPhones. It's just understood many are affected, but not all. Some pristine white panels exist. And we've even had photographs of side by side some looking dingy and others great - which a small minority may argue is the angle in relation to the camera, but overall, its again just understood they're different not because of user error in documenting it.
but- my takeaway is Both statements can be true. The camera makes them look so similar it may be identical, but the minute differences ARE what make a panel affected or not and aren't because of the camera or settings. So to summarize that 'they're the same' when to my observant eyes they are not in the photos, that's discounting the reason some show it that 'barely' show it and others don't at all.
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To me, I've seen a difference in photos in this thread showing a really strong red that I could imagine would translate to being an actual distracting issue to the naked eye, as well, that I *too* wouldn't be happy with. I wouldn't chalk that up to different cameras, or camera settings, or lighting situations, or even auto brightness when its already at 100% imo. To me - It's a matter of panel variation. Even from the same manufacturer / same spec on paper. Wouldn't be the least bit surprised. It's not like that's never bene a thing.
that was my overall point. not to be defensive of my panel. I don't really care if people think mine is junk or affected or not, I'm just saying if I don't see it to my eye against a black desktop wallpaper (which I never use, its boring) or in actual use, a use case of watching videos, I don't see it as an issue. Period.
Others do see it, either obviously or looking at it under a microscope an inch from their face - but either way still watching trailers, or looking at the black desktop wallpaper - and I'm not discounting their observations either. They see it. I don't whether I put it up to a microscope, watch it analytically, or just casually look at the screen.
if you see it watching videos, whether the camera shows it extremely so, or barely, or not at all, is in fact irrelevant. it's there, to the eye and that DOES matter. To me. But what shows up on a camera or is perceived to, doesn't bother me at all. That's not the problem.
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Only the Air. Pro does have a better display in various ways (more NITs, more contrast), but it's a little bit slower display.
Just when i thought i was out they pull me back in!
Seriously I already made my piece with this thing thinking based on all the comments in this thread that this is a feature in all of these and then you drop this news.
And to be honest, I'm still not sure. Even your screenshots show the pattern clearly and If you looked at photo taken with 12 Pro (not using long exposure) I posted yesterday, it did not look as hideous as the one in my first message on the page 1 (it was taken with X which have rather bad camera in dark conditions).
Also what I see with my own eyes, is not magenta but there is some redness in the dark blacks on the right side especially upper corner, it is nothing like in my first page photo. I need to update photos on that message soon.
Even in your trailer photos, there was pretty clearly seen that right upper corner was much darker, so obviously something annoying still can be seen if right side darkness can be noticed with bare eyes too in the dark?
I have 77" OLED TV myself and I'm one of those who actually can see this problem in real life too, so I'm definitely one of those 0.00000001% that finds this really bad. There are more or less few seconds here and there in real world material where that effect raises its ugly face and I just can't stand it. That was just to give some idea how picky I'm with the displays.
According to detailed tests run by Netbookcheck.net the MBA has a better overall response time (MBP is slower), which may be advantageous to gaming, it also has better colour accuracy (ColorCheck tests) than the M1 Pro. The MBP Screen has better brightness and contrast and black levels.
Most MBA users (including me) under normal brightness settings do not see the problems seen by the OP and a few others (the red glow). Given the effect can change depending on the viewing angle one theory suggested by forum users is the anti glare coating on the screen is causing these slight colour shifts.
Just when i thought i was out they pull me back in!
Seriously I already made my piece with this thing thinking based on all the comments in this thread that this is a feature in all of these and then you drop this news.
And to be honest, I'm still not sure. Even your screenshots show the pattern clearly and If you looked at photo taken with 12 Pro (not using long exposure) I posted yesterday, it did not look as hideous as the one in my first message on the page 1 (it was taken with X which have rather bad camera in dark conditions).
Also what I see with my own eyes, is not magenta but there is some redness in the dark blacks on the right side especially upper corner, it is nothing like in my first page photo. I need to update photos on that message soon.
Even in your trailer photos, there was pretty clearly seen that right upper corner was much darker, so obviously something annoying still can be seen if right side darkness can be noticed with bare eyes too in the dark?
I have 77" OLED TV myself and I'm one of those who actually can see this problem in real life too, so I'm definitely one of those 0.00000001% that finds this really bad. There are more or less few seconds here and there in real world material where that effect raises its ugly face and I just can't stand it. That was just to give some idea how picky I'm with the displays.
Gotta pick your battles in the absence of having first pick at an assembly line lol
id much MUCH rather a darker corner than a magenta one that has hue bleeding into it. It’s not something that catches my eye personally
I realize you wrote this nearly a month ago but you didn't have to download a black desktop background. All you have to do is change your desktop background to black in System Preferences and do a full screen Screenshot. It will be 100% black with no Dock and none of the files on your desktop. Works with any color choice.
Im on my 2nd MBA and I can say the screen isnt really any different than my previous one. Still has the red on the blacks in the corner but only really noticeable at 100% brightness on blacks.
I would really love to see a pic of your screen made with an iPhone XR or a SE2, or maybe an iPad with a similar camera. Your pic made with iPhone X looked much more like one of mine, but the new ones made with iPhone 12 are so bright, similar to thadoggfathers.
So the pro doesn’t have this issue? This is like playing the LG OLED panel lottery. Might have to get a pro if this is only an air issue.