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M1 MacBook Air black uniformity (red glow)
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Looks pretty typical compared to others in this thread.
Do you see reddish right upper corner with full screen black image and display brightness at 100% in completely dark room? Give your eyes a moment of time to get adjusted to lightning in the dark when checking this.
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You mean there is also red glow on the right with black image as described in this thread?
Seems to be green, there. If it is also visible in white and gray full screen image, it is not good.
Yes, on a black screen, the left side is greenish, and the right side definitely reddish. I don’t have to have the brightness at max to see it by the way.
And yes, the green on the left top corner is visible all the time, especially on the white, and even during the day. No need to be in the dark, so pretty disturbing.
to be honest I couldn't see until I find this topic but I am ok with that.I already played the lottery with my past MacBook devices ? and will keep this
I don't need max brightness to see red glow myself either but I'm overly too sensitive to these type of things.
That is not good if it shows so often and in white image. Mine is fine, just red glow in blacks.
But you too actually see red glow yourself in mentioned conditions described in this thread?
I guess they are like that from what I have read so far. In German forum someone said seeing 20 units all having this.
OK. Thanks for confirming that. Your photo looked a bit like couple other saying despite of that look in the photos they cannot see it by themselves. But I guess that depends on so many things whether to see them or not.
you won't believe what I saw since 2016 with these apple devices.I decide to leave them as is because there is no perfect machine.
I know but I've seen plenty of machines (other than MBA M1) fine in situation like this.
look what I find
Uneven Tint Uniformity on $1500 2016 MBP
Just got my replacement today 15' a030 What do you think? https://imgur.com/gallery/OyFD7
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Hi,
want to give a short update. Sent my MBA M1 back (because of the display issues).
Got a MBP M1 and I'm totally happy. Really like the better contrast (much better to my eyes. With MBA I got eye strain).
And I have to say, that the display uniformity is decent.
Made to shots (full brightness, True Tone activated).
First picture is IPhone 11 without flash and without any exposure time.
Second picture with 3s exposure.
Yeah, I agree MBP has generally much better screen even it is somewhat less uniform with brighter image. Also my MBP 2019 seemed to slowly developing bluish spots in white image even it had under 70 charge cycles (just mentioning that to give some impression about how much it was used). Anyway, for M1's I just cannot justify the price considering the difference between the machines. Plus MBP M1 is likely obsolete soon when new models come out and probably will lost a lot of value due to that. Also I never liked the MBP chassis so much due to hollow sounds from keyboard and trackpad plus worse speakers (no bass at all). I find it hard to believe manufacturing cost for Pro is much more than couple dozen dollars but still here in EU Pro is over 300 euros more than Air.
Well, the screen may be more expensive (brighter, better contrast), the battery is bigger, the Touch Bar costs more than juste 12 plastic keys. So, yeah I think it's more expensive to produce.
MBP (next to MBA, and I have them both)
- Screen is better (no red glow on right), plus has better contrast and max brightness
- battery is 20% bigger
- has 60w charger instead of 30w for MBA
- keyboard is better, more firm
- trackpad bigger and more firm
- CPU doesnt throttle, and has fan which speed can be fully controlled to user likes..
- has one GPU core vs base MBA
Add to this what Apple says:
- studio mics and better speakers...
For me - price diff between base MBP and base MBA in Europe are justified.
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I bought this MBA two days ago, and noticed this too, I don't think its a fault because it will never be perfect with IPS, my acer panel does the exact same thing. Apple need to adopt other type of panel like VA that is known for good uniformity.
That said, I did notice a bit of a problem with the Big Sur update, the text was harder to read. What worked here was turning the font smoothing off, since apple thinks she knows best by choosing among the 4 different smoothing options for me.
I followed the instructions from here: https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/disable-font-smoothing-in-macos-big-sur/
Its night and day diference, this panel is great without smoothing.
That said, I did notice a bit of a problem with the Big Sur update, the text was harder to read. What worked here was turning the font smoothing off, since apple thinks she knows best by choosing among the 4 different smoothing options for me.
I followed the instructions from here: https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/disable-font-smoothing-in-macos-big-sur/
Its night and day diference, this panel is great without smoothing.
Yes. Kinda hollow. But better typing experience with MBP.
and what I clearly have to say is that the M1MBP sounds much better than M1MBA (already have seen several devices of both models).
The bass is totally lacking with MBA - that’s right.
love the better battery. And the power supply (MBA power supply does not have enough power at all - not possible to charge while using it with a hub between for example)
I know but the screen is probably just few bucks more in reality what the cost difference between the parts is.
Anyway, the screen is the only thing I would appreciate in MBP, otherwise MBA wins for me and it is pretty obvious based on rumors by now that MBP is soon getting new type of display anyway and likely the price is not much different than now, probably the same I bet. So current MBP M1 became obsolete quite soon.
I never use full brightness anyway, so MBA is fine but better contrast and lack of red glow would be nice.
MBA screen used to be somewhat better before this P3 "upgrade".
Actual charging time is not much different as it almost never pulls full 60W. Highest I ever saw with my MBP 2019 was around 40W or so and it will gradually drop that when battery gets charged, so in the end very minor difference. In practise my MBA charged faster (in time) than my MBP did but that is because battery capacity is lower in MBA but it kinda evens up the time how long it takes to charge it full from the percentage I usually charge again.
I tried MBP M1 and I did not like the clickiness of the keyboard. Sounded and felt like butterfly with longer keytravel.
MBA M1 is nice and quiet.
But sounds hollow. Actually I find typing with MBA better for me as I tend to rest my wrist against the chassis and wider trackpad tend to cause pointer jumping sometimes and happens less with MBA now. Never found any need for larger trackpad myself, all gestures I use work with MBA just as good, plus it is silent.
These are definitely benefits for those who need full power. You can have extra GPU for MBA too but in the tests it seem to make rather small difference.
Still for Pro I find current difference way to small. Practically the same CPU and for that I also think MBP M1 in current specification will be obsolete quite soon.
Yeah, but even reviews confirm MBA speakers sounds better.
Well I have seen several IPS and this kind of glow is not something I've seen before. There can be "hot" corners but not quite like this. So IMHO not so acceptable.
MBA lacking bass? Not sure but my MBA M1 sounds much better than my MBP 13" (1.4GHz) 2019 did and from what I have seen the speakers are still the same in both models. Also Notebookcheck review rated MBA speaker sound quality better than MBP. So you actually hear difference in bass better in MBP or did I misunderstood your message as you said "that's right" for my comment about MBP no bass at all?
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Target for my comment are not the users who want base MBA - as key driver here is value for money.
For users who want to "slightly" level-up their MBA - they should check both MBA and MBP.
Nothing dramatic - but if you can grab base MBP on sales - its just a better laptop.
My MBA 8GB/512GB had the same price as my base MBP (8GB/256GB) - which would not be a problem if everything else (except from HDD size) was equal.
P.S. You cant compare 2019 MBP to M1 MBA - you need to try them side by side to feel the difference...
If you quote reviewers for MBA speakers being better - they actually said louder - then you may quote same reviewers who evaluated keyboards, trackpad, battery, screen, charging speed...and they all said MBP is better.
This is not a hot spot, because if you go into a dark room with brightness at max on a black screen, you can see the screen changing the place of that glow traveling depending on the angle you're looking at.
Theres zero backlight bleed, this glow is due to coating alone. The problem lies in that the coating affect how you perceive uniformity on certain shades, like grey and white. Its like looking at a slight angle even tough you facing forward.
I know and that is what I meant. Issue with MBA is different than typical IPS hot spot.
Yeah that's what I think too but I find it hard to believe they have managed to mess up this simple thing with coating. It is not anything new to use coatings so why this all the sudden happened right after MBA finally got P3 display. I guess no one would buy MBP if the MBA had good screen....?
I did that too but MBA just feels so much more solid machine. MBP M1 is still hollow and clicky sounding (keyboard and trackpad). It actually felt and sounded me like it was butterfly with longer keytravel.
Which reviews you are referring to?
I'm referring to the only review I have seen actually taking decent audio quality measurements (I mean Notebookcheck) and there MBA won in speaker quality compared to MBP M1. There is actual graphs of measurement too.
Surely battery is bigger and last longer but like I said in practice there is small difference in charging speed since MBP never pulls full 60W and it is gradually lowering wattage as battery is filled (just check the reading during charging and you see). Actually practical charging time is shorter in my MBA vs my MBP 13" 2019 was when starting from the same percentage (I usually charge again when it is around 40% or just below). Probably some difference if starting from 0% to 100%.
In display quality MBP M1 is much better likely but currently all else is par with MBA and I think MBP M1 is pretty obsolete machine as is and will see rather steep drop in value next years when actual Pro's come out. I think later this year we see MBP with Micro LED display and likely faster Pro grade CPU when it really becomes much better than MBA M1 because I think it will still cost around the same as MBP M1 now.
I bought the pro, I think its worth the extra cost if you are really peaky about the screen, it really is a different screen.
The sound is a bit fuller and extends a bit more into the lows, you can almost say it have lows and the body vibrates much lake the air, but the air does sound louder if you really need loudness, just don't extend too well into lows.
My initial impression about the screen on the keyboard is very positive, in my opinion the rumors that the new MacBook by the end of the year would lose the little screen is probably going to be a step back in the wrong direction in my opinion.
The keyboards are the same, but like you said, they can feel a bit different because of the body.
About micro-led, I think micro-led is a way to have a full array on ips displays, and its a good alternative to oled. But I'm not sure I would ditch the current MBP for a micro-led one.
The sound is a bit fuller and extends a bit more into the lows, you can almost say it have lows and the body vibrates much lake the air, but the air does sound louder if you really need loudness, just don't extend too well into lows.
My initial impression about the screen on the keyboard is very positive, in my opinion the rumors that the new MacBook by the end of the year would lose the little screen is probably going to be a step back in the wrong direction in my opinion.
The keyboards are the same, but like you said, they can feel a bit different because of the body.
About micro-led, I think micro-led is a way to have a full array on ips displays, and its a good alternative to oled. But I'm not sure I would ditch the current MBP for a micro-led one.