M1 Macbook Pro 2021 "120 hz" mini led display very slow, 120 hz are fake, old lcd technology!

[VanWinkle]

I was at a store the other day which had a 14" MBP connected to the 27" Studio display. I was dragging a window around from screen to screen and the MBP was considerably smoother and cleaner with less ghosting than the 27" Studio Display which is stuck at 60Hz.

The current MPBs are heralded as the best professional laptops ever made. I am sure for a select minority, who have become aware of this issue, and also appreciate low-lag screens, then you may fixate on this apparent 'issue' (hint: it's not an issue, it's just not the same as other high speed displays).

Apple have focused on what's important on the displays. That being colour accuracy, colour gamut, and contrast/brightness. These MBP displays are incredible to look at. Could they be even better with faster response times? Sure. I mean, lots of things COULD be better. They COULD be thinner. They COULD be faster. They COULD do XYZ, but they don't.

When I was in the store, I was surrounded by laptop and desktop displays. I genuinely question how people can accept what the Windows PC's come with in comparison to the Macs. Even the Macbook Air with M2 has a substantially better display quality than practically all the other devices in the store and it is just a normal LCD. It is quite like comparing Apples to Oranges actually.

The only high-end display I have to compare it to is my Galaxy Tab S7+, which has VERY noticeably smoother and less ghosty/smeary motion. But the MBP 14 is still noticeably better than 60hz displays. I mean, all you have to do is switch to 60hz and you can see it's smoother with ProMotion enabled.

A decently smooth screen combined with top-class color reproduction, HDR, contrast, and reflectance is more than okay in my book.

 

[kasakka]

The way I see it, if Apple wants to push for 120 Hz on their displays, then the pixel response times should at minimum be at a level where they can achieve that without additional motion blur.

This means about ~16 ms for 60 Hz and ~8.3ms for 120 Hz. These numbers do not require some top of the line gaming display to achieve.

By comparison Apple's response times for the M1 laptops have been reported as being somewhere in the 50ms and up range afaik and that's just ridiculous. There is no way that this allows for better performance in some other area because those are slower than the cheapest LCD desktop display you can buy today and far worse than any mini-LED display on the market.

Even the 5K Apple Studio Display is slightly too slow for 60 Hz and that sucks for a nearly 2000 euro product that is not even capable of HDR.

Apple displays generally look great when there is no motion on screen. But even just moving between virtual desktops is a blurry mess.