Why go backwards when you already went through the trouble of having everyone buying connectors while manufacturers catch up with technology.
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M1 Max MBP has all these unnecessary ports….WTF?!
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Well it has 3 Thunderbolt ports AND you can still charge from them....so not really sure what your problem is...
Having an SD card slot or HDMI or MagSafe on there doesn't negatively impact you in anyway if you don't use them. I guess in theory you are complaining because you really want to have 4 instead of 3 Thunderbolt ports? Is loosing that 1 extra Thunderbolt port (especially since you can now Fast Charge via Magsafe) really going to impact your life in anyway? Or looking at it another way, why should you get 4 ports you want, when that means others will get 0 ports they want?
Note, M1 Pro/Max doesn't have the bandwidth for more than 4 Thunderbolt ports anyway, so really it is just the loss of that 1 port (of which there are 3 more on there) that has you covering your face in grief....
As for battery capacity, I believe the thing is limited by what the FCC lets you carry on the plane...and I think a lot of people want to travel with their MacBook when flying...
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You assume everyone has. I'm posting this from my mid-2011 13" MBA. I've been on this for the past 10 years. Don't assume that everyone has upgraded from something that has worked perfectly for them for a long time because of FOMO. For all that FOMO I missed and complaints about heat and performance issues with Ice Lake, Sky Lake, Cascade Lake, Broadwell, Haswell, etc., this Mac on Sandy Bridge cost me $12.97/month without having to buy anything else to make it work, and still runs as fast as it did when I unboxed it.
BL.
Not yet, but it wont be long. I've had them on other machines. The depth of the port isn't standard, so it has to be designed for the machine.
They are not going backwards. They are bringing back standards that are very much alive in Todays world.
Form over function is for Facebook browsers and instagram clicking. You already have machines for that.
Professionals need access to wide range of options and LUCKILY for us, apple finally came back to its senses.
I don't understand why do you have so much trouble comprehending basic rules of variable conditions workflow.
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I even have docks, I am upgrading from an M1 MBA, but I wont have to remember to bring them anymore, that's a big win.
That’s assuming that everyone bought connectors, or wouldn’t rather just have the port to begin with. I have no idea, but from my experience, a company like Apple likely has done a lot of market research and customer surveys to see what the majority of users want, and that likely meant adding back these ports. The only reason they didn’t add them back earlier is their (Ive’s) obsession with thinness and simplicity - which he’s gone now so there may be a correlation there. Who knows.
These people complaining! Apple just released the best MacBook Pro in years but all the naysayers who cares! I love my MacBook Pro! ?
I think I saw a picture of someone trying that exact combo, and it stuck out a little. Not sure though, and my MBP wont get here for another month and a half to try anything.
Why would they?
People Using pro photo and video equipment haven’t been using SD for a long time.
they should have used HDMI 2.1 and not 2.0
Also the SD Card reader speed is a generation behind.
To do this on a cutting edge technology laptop is nuts.
Next year they will upgrade these ports to current standards and add Face ID and call it an upgrade.
And all the current buyers with old technology ports on this years laptop are screwed.
Also the SD Card reader speed is a generation behind.
To do this on a cutting edge technology laptop is nuts.
Next year they will upgrade these ports to current standards and add Face ID and call it an upgrade.
And all the current buyers with old technology ports on this years laptop are screwed.
Actually, most professionals in the photographic industry prefer to use card readers rather than memory card slots in either a printer or computer. And they don't use memory cards for storing their images; they shoot the images and then dump the files into the computer, edit the images that they choose and safely store them on external drives and in the cloud. Memory cards go back into the camera for the next shooting session.
Sure, people who take snapshots with their cameras will probably be happy to have an SD card slot in their new MBP, but not a lot of them are likely to be buying the high-end MBPs anyway. Come next year when the next round of MBAs and the baseline MBPs are released, that's when there will be a larger audience for the SD card slot. Aside from that, the photographic industry is now moving more and more into CF Express Type A and/or Type B Cards, which are significantly faster than SD cards. High-end digital mirrorless cameras are now using CF Express Type A or Type B cards.
I still have a Canon Eos Rebel T2i that works wonderfully, so I don't have any need to update that DSLR. The T3i was the first Eos Rebel to have WiFi, so I'm stuck with CD. And that's okay. So if I use it, SD port for me.
The KVM I use between my current Mac and my PC us DVI-D. Right now, I have a DVI-D to Displayport adapter connected to my MBA to use one of my monitors on the KVM with Mac. All I'd need is DVI-D to HDMI, and I'm set.
People need to stop assuming that everyone looking at this Mac is coming from a model 1-3 revisions behind, because they'd be absolutely wrong in their assumptions and thinking that what THEY use their Mac for is what everyone else uses their Mac for. That is a very shortsighted assumption.
Again, I'm coming from a 10-year old Mac, and have use cases for all of the ports on these new Macs. So people need to quit thinking that these are outdated, because for a lot of users, this is a major update.
BL.
False. They may also use other stuff, but SD cards are by no means gone.
So you are saying someone like a Wedding Photo / videographer wouldn't have drones or other b roll cameras that use SD cards?
Whatever the status of professionals (and I'll bet the vast majority of photographers who are not using Nikon or older Canon 1 DXs are quite happy with current SD cards), the fact is that *most* photographers, videographers, sound recordists, drone users, Raspberry-Pi (& similar) owners etc. have equipment using SD cards.
So there are far, far more SD card users than professional videographers, photographers using other formats. SD is ubiquitous and I expect it will be around for another 10-15 years. If CFExpress becomes the de facto standard in cameras, I would expect Apple to use a hybrid slot like recent Sony cameras.
Apple is simply providing a feature for the majority of its users, not the minority.
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My new Sony A1 uses CF Express Type A cards -- however, it can also use UHS-II SD cards, so that those who have a plentiful supply of them don't have to immediately replace them with CFExpress cards. I chose to go with CFExpress cards in both the card slots, but there is the option of using one card slot with CF Express Type A and the other with UHS-II SD. In the meantime I do also still use UHS II SD cards in my two-year-old Sony A7R IV, which I have kept as a backup/spare camera. One of the accessories I immediately purchased with the A1 was a Sony CFExpress Type A Card/SD card reader, so that regardless of which camera I use I can immediately put the files into my computer.
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I have two fully functional ten-year-old MBPs with MagSafe, Ethernet, USB-A, TB1 or 2, headphone jacks, FireWire 800, and even an ExpressCard slot.
The open holes on the side of your Mac (including fan vents, speaker holes, etc) will NEVER be an issue, unless you break something in there.
Unnecessary worry indeed, as a can of compressed air is, and always has been, the solution to this worry.
Not everyone bought new computers in that time period
I don't think anyone suggested storing images on SD cards long term...just using them to get the media onto a computer, NAS, external disk or cloud storage (or all of the above!).
I too carry around an external UHS-II reader because a lot of laptops only have UHS-I or a poor implementation of UHS-II. I'm a bit disappointed that the MBPs are limited to 250MB/s, but it's still pretty good and close to the theoretical maximum of the cards in any case.
The built-in SD slot may end up being a back-up for professionals. Personally, I would always carry an external adapter as well in case something fails, but the built-in reader would be the easiest option in the field (less risk of losing the dongle).
I don't understand your point about the next MBAs and MBP13s (if they exist) - why would that increase the audience for SD slots? I doubt the MBA or entry-level MBP will have one.
You are correct that high-end cameras are moving to CFExpressA & B, but that still leaves the majority of cameras using SD! It will take a long time for low to mid range cameras have these (and that's where the numbers are), but I look forward to it eventually.
I know I sound like an "SD defender" of sorts, but I'm actually impartial. I have a camera with CFast 2.0 and external SSD, but also have 5 cameras with SD card slots, and these are a very good and mostly economical option for nearly all of my usage.
As with all things, you have to look at the requirement for them. Do I need to read/write to my media at 1000-2000MB/s ? How fast can the camera actually write? (hint: it may be a lot slower than the 1-2TB/s
). A $50,000 RED Weapon 8K camera has a maximum data rate of about 300MB/s. Most ARRI cameras are similar with the top-end Alexa 65 in open-gate RAW topping out at about 750MB/s. ProRes 4444 or RAW tops out around 500MB/sHowever, you can still shoot 4K 4:2:2 H.264 or H.265 videos at 60fps at less than 50MB/s that are good enough for broadcast or cinematic release, and that is easily done on a $40 SD card.
I did recently learn that CFExpress actually becomes cheaper than many of the fastest SD cards, so the balance is definitely tipping in CFExpress' favour where you need >250MB/s write speeds.
What I'm saying is that you can still go a very long way with SD cards, and this is where Apple is positioning its offering - for the majority. At the top end, people with $10,000 stills cameras and >$50,000 cinema cameras will not be bothered about buying a separate card reader.
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I don’t care about the SD/HDMI ports, can see how they are useful in a pinch but we have had many years to get used to having dongles it’s fine
However I am annoyed about MagSafe as I have no need for it, and the real annoyance is losing a TB port for it… now I have to carry a type-c hub around…
However I am annoyed about MagSafe as I have no need for it, and the real annoyance is losing a TB port for it… now I have to carry a type-c hub around…
How were you charging your previous laptop? Presumably with one of the TB ports, unless you are powering it through the same hub, so you're no worse off.
One scenario in which you lose out is if you were powering the laptop from a screen to one port serving as both power and display, so you would lose one port in that case.