These are also my thoughts. Honestly, I'm not 100% happy but I'm also afraid of being stuck in the limbo. Good thing now is, that I saved over 10% to the original price tag. I have 2 weeks time now to think about it... Would be interesting to know if I just have bad luck or if it's a normal thing for this notebook generation.
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M2 MBA backlight bleed issue? How does your monitor look?
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My personal experience with huge number of different products is that exchanging limbo is endless when going to that. Problem is that some peoples are more annoyed by some features than others and often trying to seek advise from others might lead me to think there is this perfect "unicorn" product out there if I keep exchanging them. That never ended well for me and often lead me to get my money back from either dealer or manufacturer telling me your product was good as it gets and you will not benefit from exchanging them.
You got nice discount from yours, so I guess you need to weight if that is enough for you to tolerate this issue. Obviously since you have already tried so much, it might be something that keeps bugging you in the future. Use your two weeks wisely and try to find an answer to this, I know it is hard I've been there too many times myself.
Looks pretty typical average quality Edge Lit IPS. Probably you may have to accept some level of that. You could use image from this test showing how "minor" backlight bleed looks like and determine if you can accept that yourself. https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple...but-too-expensive-daily-MacBook.636637.0.html
With MBP 14"/16" that screen will look just true black without "flashlights" in the edges.
lol and some ppl say the screen on the mba is the best ips on the market.
It is one of the best for sure. What percentage of people who have bought an air have a problem with back light bleed?
A lot of people complain about the speakers popping on the M1 MBP 14/16" and it has been going on for almost a year now. Does it make the speakers trash because no matter how good they sound you get crackling and popping sounds? I don't know but I don't go on those threads and try to make people feel bad about their device.
Just because some people have issues and come on this forum to complain doesn’t make them all bad.
But I understand if you do have a problem on an expensive laptop it would suck and you would want to share your experience and figure out what is a decent ips display.
A lot of people on this forum don’t come to help others but make them feel bad to justify whatever they have. It boggles my mind that some people feel the need to make comments that don’t help but do the opposite.
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idk, why don't you ask apple to share their data.
and how many that does have issue but aren't going on this forum to complain about it.
you on multiple occasions downplay the mbp and complain about blooming, your comments comparing the mbp to the mba helped no one either, and not to mention, you started discussions to justify your purchase on sooo many occasions that you even warrant to start a new thread. it boggles my mind that you don't see the hypocrisy in your own writing.
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Since there is a narrative some people are starting to go with in this thread, as mostly people with issues will show up to such a topic, I thought I'd weigh in with my singular data point.
Mine is flawless. As someone that works with very accurate screens normally, I obsess a bit about this stuff even when I don't have to like on a consumer device like this. But it's impeccable, the most even backlight I have ever had on an LCD. My Macbook Pro 2019 has some tiny stuff, but this one makes it look not-so-pro anymore.
Mine is flawless. As someone that works with very accurate screens normally, I obsess a bit about this stuff even when I don't have to like on a consumer device like this. But it's impeccable, the most even backlight I have ever had on an LCD. My Macbook Pro 2019 has some tiny stuff, but this one makes it look not-so-pro anymore.
flawless ips do exist, but a good amount of ips out there have uneven black due to bleeding and such, thats one of the inherent problem with ips panels no matter what manufacture you go with.
Could you please post a picture of a flawless screen? I would be interested to compare with the one I’m currently having. Thank you!
This is what good edge lit IPS should look like on black screen.
Examples from my previous MBP 13" 2019 and MBA M1. My MBA had this red glow issue on the right which was common if you know what to look for (it did not appear that obvious IRL but camera with long exposure saw it worse) but these type of issues are more or less expected for a cheaper machines.
Best way to test is to put full screen black image and turn brightness to 100% in MacBook, then use some recent iPhone camera with long exposure, so it will show all possible issues clearly.
Thanks, I already saw this. I was hoping to see one from a M2 Air.
We'll see. My experience has been with most of the gear that those who say they have perfect display almost never post photos of them, not at least using the same method, most of the time I hear excuses I don't use my gear in such conditions or similar. So I personally take these "my machine is flawless, yours is faulty get it replaced" comments with grain of salt, especially after I have myself tested and found the issue in more than one or two machines myself already.
i honestly never had a perfect IPS screen, and i been using dell ultrasharp line for the past 7 years, the back lighting tech behind ips is just inherently flawed.
I know backlight bleed is very common in edge lit IPS and I had my "experience" with Ultrasharp, I kept exchanging mine over and over again since I was told backlight bleed mine had was not normal (both other owners and manufacturer support said so after seeing the photos of it). In the end I was told no more exchanges because units I returned were found "normal" and within specification...
However as you can see from my MBP and MBA M1 photos, they were exemplary units both in terms of backlight leak. So if someone has MBA M2 like that, then it is good.
i had exchanged my u2720q 5 times, they ultimately shipped me a different sku, at that point i was like screw it i wasted enough gas money going to ups 😂
Sounds a lot like my case with 25” was, except I went as far as possible in order trying to get fault free one (but obviously failed to get one).
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Hey ho guys,
thanks for sharing your problems. I also got a pretty bad macbook air screen. Has some one of you bought a cto device not directly at apple and tried to ask for a repairment at the genius bar? And how went your exchange? Are there many perfect screens available?
thanks for sharing your problems. I also got a pretty bad macbook air screen. Has some one of you bought a cto device not directly at apple and tried to ask for a repairment at the genius bar? And how went your exchange? Are there many perfect screens available?
unfortunately it does not, the way traditional ips project lights, the chance of you landing a good ips with equal backlight and no bleed is very slim. i had dell replace my u2720q 5 times before i gave up and call it a day, and thats a ultrasharp line not the regular p or s line.
this is why i'm very happy with my 14inch's mini led. none of the screen issues i had when i jumped from my m1 mba.
Does IPS get worse over time? Will a display that's decent today have incerased bleeding (and/or other problems) in a few years?
you should look up led lcd dimming, https://focuslcds.com/journals/the-half-life-of-led-backlights/