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Does this apply to MBP14 display too? I know nothing about this stuff. I look-up the specs, in Mactracker, and the app says 'LED' for MBA M2 but it doesn't say 'LED for MBP14. Sorry for so many questions! :D
14 inch doesn't use led, it uses mini led which allows for much better dynamic control, in theory yes the mini led does last longer since they are able to switch off more zones due to the nature of mini led.
 
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Must say, the M2 MacBook Air that I got has got a pretty uniform backlight. Is probably as good as it will get for a regular IPS display.
 
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Guys please see if this has any issue with blacklight bleed. my 14 days has crossed for replacement but have apple care to this , I hope I will get a replacement.
That one looks literally perfect. Please don’t return unless you have dead pixels.
 
Just to update. I took the chance and got a replacement. Looks like I won this round. Hoping you all have the same result.
 

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Bad? I think it’s perfectly acceptable. Sure there are better but most are far worse. Happy with the corners.
Some light bleed needs to be anticipated- none of these are perfect.
yep, traditional ips will always have some form of light bleed, thats just an inherent flaw with ips in general. it amazes me that some folks on here thinks the m2 mba is on par with mini led on the pros.
 
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I haven’t seen those kind of screens with previous generations of the air or pro and I think this is because the overall M2 display is so bendable.
 
am i? na just spitting fax 😂

feel free to prove me wrong lol

There are advantages and disadvantages to any technology. Right now image quality in some areas like higher contrast and image vibrancy and HDR brightness mini led IPS is clearly superior.

But there are also disadvantages to Mini led IPS over edge lit IPS and OLED displays. Mini led has an issue with response time and because it has such a slow response time it still leads to text blurring when scrolling despite the high refresh rate. It has blooming that many people on this forum have complained about. It also uses PWM and has flicker which cause a lot of people problems with eye strain and headaches.


Oled is great but brightness is an issue. Oled also have problems with burn in and on a laptop where there are a lot of static images this could be an issue later on.

Over all I would say a high quality OLED display might be the best option but Apple doesn't seem to have plans for using those any time soon.

Also there are micro led screens which would most likely eliminate the blooming.

Edge lit IPS has light bleeding issues around the edges of the screen and backlight bleed can vary widely depending on the individual display. However the edge lit IPS displays in the M2 MBA have p3 gamut and are very color accurate. They don't use dithering or PWM so technically should reduce eye strain. IPS will never have burn in and has a much higher response time despite the 60hz refresh rate. The contrast on these screens is very good for IPS but IPS can't match Mini led or OLED.

Both Mini led IPS and regular edge lit ips are IPS displays technically. It is just the backlight technology is different so it is a bit of a misnomer to say Mini led is more advanced, etc. than IPS because they are both still IPS screens. It would be more correct to say Mini led IPS is better than edge lit IPS. Some people seem to think Mini led IPS is a completely new technology but it is just an improvement on existing technology.

I said mini led vs ips above because others were already using that terminology even though it is technically incorrect as mini led IPS vs edge lit IPS is the correct nomenclature.
 
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There are advantages and disadvantages to any technology. Right now image quality in some areas like higher contrast and image vibrancy and HDR brightness mini led IPS is clearly superior.

But there are also disadvantages to Mini led IPS over edge lit IPS and OLED displays. Mini led has an issue with response time and because it has such a slow response time it still leads to text blurring when scrolling despite the high refresh rate. It has blooming that many people on this forum have complained about. It also uses PWM and has flicker which cause a lot of people problems with eye strain and headaches.


Oled is great but brightness is an issue. Oled also have problems with burn in and on a laptop where there are a lot of static images this could be an issue later on.

Over all I would say a high quality OLED display might be the best option but Apple doesn't seem to have plans for using those any time soon.

Also there are micro led screens which would most likely eliminate the blooming.

Edge lit IPS has light bleeding issues around the edges of the screen and backlight bleed can vary widely depending on the individual display. However the edge lit IPS displays in the M2 MBA have p3 gamut and are very color accurate. They don't use dithering or PWM so technically should reduce eye strain. IPS will never have burn in and has a much higher response time despite the 60hz refresh rate. The contrast on these screens is very good for IPS but IPS can't match Mini led or OLED.

Both Mini led IPS and regular edge lit ips are IPS displays technically. It is just the backlight technology is different so it is a bit of a misnomer to say Mini led is more advanced, etc. than IPS because they are both still IPS screens. It would be more correct to say Mini led IPS is better than edge lit IPS. Some people seem to think Mini led IPS is a completely new technology but it is just an improvement on existing technology.

I said mini led vs ips above because others were already using that terminology even though it is technically incorrect as mini led IPS vs edge lit IPS is the correct nomenclature.
if you nitpick enough, you will find flaws in anything. the slow response time is a non issue, in that very thread you pointed out, that dude had to record in 240fps slow mode to even notice it. if you are looking at a mini led backlit standalone monitor, your starting price is 2k usd, meanwhile the same traditional ips can be had from a 300 bucks lg monitor.

With the panel quality varying to such degree from one to the next, the MBA M2 display has the worst light leak in MacBook history.
 
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if you nitpick enough, you will find flaws in anything. the slow response time is a non issue, in that very thread you pointed out, that dude had to record in 240fps slow mode to even notice it. if you are looking at a mini led backlit standalone monitor, your starting price is 2k usd, meanwhile the same traditional ips can be had from a 300 bucks lg monitor.

With the panel quality varying to such degree from one to the next, the MBA M2 display has the worst light leak in MacBook history.

Actually it is bad, as is the blooming. Slow response time leads to text blurring. It is one of the reasons the 120hz doesn't really feel the same as an iPhone 120hz OLED panel where everything always looks smooth. It is a great screen but it comes with drawbacks. I wish they could have used a high refresh rate and high brightness OLED screen instead.

Of course you are right you can nit pick anything to death just like backlight bleed.

The IPS panel on the M2 MBA is amazing. My unit doesn't suffer from backlight bleed. The color reproduction is also incredible.

The longer I have the M2 MBA the more I truly think it is one of the best notebooks Apple has made in a long time.
 
Actually it is bad, as is the blooming. Slow response time leads to text blurring. It is one of the reasons the 120hz doesn't really feel the same as an iPhone 120hz OLED panel where everything always looks smooth. It is a great screen but it comes with drawbacks. I wish they could have used a high refresh rate and high brightness OLED screen instead.

Of course you are right you can nit pick anything to death just like backlight bleed.

The IPS panel on the M2 MBA is amazing. My unit doesn't suffer from backlight bleed. The color reproduction is also incredible.

The longer I have the M2 MBA the more I truly think it is one of the best notebooks Apple has made in a long time.
no its not, even that thread you quoted has so much debates in it that its hard to make out any conclusive results.

show us a picture then, like the ones others have posted in this thread. i haven't seen one m2 mba that has good uniformity.
 
yep, traditional ips will always have some form of light bleed, thats just an inherent flaw with ips in general. it amazes me that some folks on here thinks the m2 mba is on par with mini led on the pros.

Indeed, the M2 MBA display is terrible with black background, so not sure why people try to replace the display. If you want good black background, get the 14” or 16” MBP with minI-LED.

I’m fine with the display on my M2 MBA as I know no matter how many times I will replace it, it will never be as good as my 16” or iPad. Atleast the backlight is uniform on my M2 MBA.
 
Apple Care Service not repaired mine. Time to sell it :(
Why sell it? I know it’s frustrating but maybe try to talk with a supervisor customer service representative at Apple.

You know what is bothering you about the screen and express how you are seriously considering selling it and cutting your losses. You may be soured as an Apple customer moving forward.

Say you would much rather have a laptop with a decent screen and not one with backlight bleed. You understand it doesn’t impede the functionality but it does impede your ability to enjoy using the computer so much so you are willing to lose money and get something else.

Maybe they could make a special exception and exchange it for you? Maybe they could have the screen tested one extra time before they ship it to you to make sure it is good or you would simply like to return and refund it. Maybe since it is passed the return period they could pass on a restocking fee and sell it refurbished.

I would really press Apple to make it right and escalate the situation before selling it.

It sucks that when you get a bad one it is really bad.

Obviously all IPS screens have some minor backlight bleed around the edges of the screen usually at the bottom and corners but during normal operation it should not be visible and when it is like when watching a movie with black bars it should not be distracting.

Good luck and I hope Apple makes things right and you don’t have to sell it!
 
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Why sell it? I know it’s frustrating but maybe try to talk with a supervisor customer service representative at Apple.

You know what is bothering you about the screen and express how you are seriously considering selling it and cutting your losses. You may be soured as an Apple customer moving forward.

Say you would much rather have a laptop with a decent screen and not one with backlight bleed. You understand it doesn’t impede the functionality but it does impede your ability to enjoy using the computer so much so you are willing to lose money and get something else.

Maybe they could make a special exception and exchange it for you? Maybe they could have the screen tested one extra time before they ship it to you to make sure it is good or you would simply like to return and refund it. Maybe since it is passed the return period they could pass on a restocking fee and sell it refurbished.

I would really press Apple to make it right and escalate the situation before selling it.

It sucks that when you get a bad one it is really bad.

Obviously all IPS screens have some minor backlight bleed around the edges of the screen usually at the bottom and corners but during normal operation it should not be visible and when it is like when watching a movie with black bars it should not be distracting.

Good luck and I hope Apple makes things right and you don’t have to sell it!
Thank you for your detailed reply. This is my 5th Macbook. This is the first time i wanted to move from a macbook pro to an air. As a programmer i think it is fast enough.

I spect it out with 24gb ram because i want to use it as my main driver. I also have an M1 Pro 16" here. I knew that the display will not be the same. But all macbooks before have an ips panel and never had such a light bleeding. Especially on the small screen it is more noticeable. I want to love this Macbook but this light bleed is jumping into my face and makes me angry.

The apple store employee was very friendly but do you think it is worth it to go to the store another time although the apple care team has said, that they can't reproduce the error? I think the store employee also added the light bleeding image (See attachement).

I bought the device not directly at apple because of the price, maybe my fault but all the times before i had no problems. They changed whole devices because of smaller errors :(

So i think there will be no chance to go with a macbook air. Maybe i will switch to a macbook m1 pro 14" base model.
 

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Thank you for your detailed reply. This is my 5th Macbook. This is the first time i wanted to move from a macbook pro to an air. As a programmer i think it is fast enough.

I spect it out with 24gb ram because i want to use it as my main driver. I also have an M1 Pro 16" here. I knew that the display will not be the same. But all macbooks before have an ips panel and never had such a light bleeding. Especially on the small screen it is more noticeable. I want to love this Macbook but this light bleed is jumping into my face and makes me angry.

The apple store employee was very friendly but do you think it is worth it to go to the store another time although the apple care team has said, that they can't reproduce the error? I think the store employee also added the light bleeding image (See attachement).

I bought the device not directly at apple because of the price, maybe my fault but all the times before i had no problems. They changed whole devices because of smaller errors :(

So i think there will be no chance to go with a macbook air. Maybe i will switch to a macbook m1 pro 14" base model.
that unevenness is pretty bad, unfortunately you're not the only one who has to deal with this. if you can sell the mba and not lose too much on it i highly recommend getting the 14 base.
 
Thank you for your detailed reply. This is my 5th Macbook. This is the first time i wanted to move from a macbook pro to an air. As a programmer i think it is fast enough.

I spect it out with 24gb ram because i want to use it as my main driver. I also have an M1 Pro 16" here. I knew that the display will not be the same. But all macbooks before have an ips panel and never had such a light bleeding. Especially on the small screen it is more noticeable. I want to love this Macbook but this light bleed is jumping into my face and makes me angry.

The apple store employee was very friendly but do you think it is worth it to go to the store another time although the apple care team has said, that they can't reproduce the error? I think the store employee also added the light bleeding image (See attachement).

I bought the device not directly at apple because of the price, maybe my fault but all the times before i had no problems. They changed whole devices because of smaller errors :(

So i think there will be no chance to go with a macbook air. Maybe i will switch to a macbook m1 pro 14" base model.
I would call customer service instead of go to the store. Tell them you want to exchange for a 14” MBP. Hopefully they will do the right thing.
 
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