M2 Pro MacBooks in 2022?

[chriswhv6]

whereas on my 2015 Intel Mac running any of those things at the same time - even with 16 GB of RAM - would have been a nightmare.

ive noticed on my current Mac certain websites if i try to load them via Safari the fans start kicking into gear so i have to use Chrome instead but that browser i notice hogs way more battery life.

The extra ports and especially the SD card slot is whats making me the most to go for the Pro model once again.

 

[izzy0242mr]

ive noticed on my current Mac certain websites if i try to load them via Safari the fans start kicking into gear so i have to use Chrome instead but that browser i notice hogs way more battery life.

The extra ports and especially the SD card slot is whats making me the most to go for the Pro model once again.

Chrome is widely considered terrible for battery life, and I don't think that has changed unfortunately. If you're gonna be on power most of the time, though, it may be a worthwhile tradeoff.

Extra ports were a huge reason for my decision as well. Dongles are okay, but I'd really rather not rely on them if I don't have to.

 

[xraydoc]

Chrome is widely considered terrible for battery life, and I don't think that has changed unfortunately. If you're gonna be on power most of the time, though, it may be a worthwhile tradeoff.

Latest versions of the Apple Silicon native version of Chrome are much improved from before, but I think still utilizes more resources than Safari (or Firefox).

 

[izzy0242mr]

Latest versions of the Apple Silicon native version of Chrome are much improved from before, but I think still utilizes more resources than Safari (or Firefox).

That's good to hear. (Although no help for @chriswhv6 who has an Intel Mac currently.) I've just gotten used to Safari despite using Chrome more years ago and I don't really feel like I'm missing anything.

 

[chriswhv6]

Well i went to my local store that said they had the Space Grey in stock and i just said to my self id go to look but yep i ended up picking one up LOL.
Space Grey 16inch MBP, M1 Pro, 16GB, 1TB @$3,677 AU.

I truly wanted to wait maybe and see for the 2022/23 Pro range an if they got anything better upgraded in them but not sure if the price is going to sky rocket up more as well.

I haven't spent much time with it as yet as i left it yesterday to complete the Migration overnight.
Noticed this morning there was a notification saying Optimizing Your Mac (performance/battery might suffer)...do I just close the notification and don't worry about it or will it go away once its done?

Font size looks a little smaller compared to what i was use to on my old mid-14 16inch Pro :/

Speakers sound AMAZING!

Its showing 2 Cycles for the battery charge in system report. (is that normal for new?)

The battery life from what I can see.......mind blowing.
My old MBP which is suffering at the moment only shows 2h51m of battery when at 100% this new M1 Pro says.....20 hours!!!!
O_O
Just crazy if it truly does get 20 hours worth out of one charge.

Thank you @izzy0242mr as well for helping me to decide and stick with the Pro. I was super tempted originally to have got the max specked out MBA with M2 at close to $3,000 but I think the extra $677 to jump into the Pro was much more worth it...At least I hope so!

 

[izzy0242mr]

Optimizing Your Mac (performance/battery might suffer)...do I just close the notification and don't worry about it or will it go away once its done?

It'll go away. They all do that. Give a day or so

The battery life from what I can see.......mind blowing.
My old MBP which is suffering at the moment only shows 2h51m of battery when at 100% this new M1 Pro says.....20 hours!!!!

Yeah it's honestly pretty insane LOL. "We think you're gonna love it."

Font size looks a little smaller compared to what i was use to on my old mid-14 16inch Pro :

Probably the higher res screen. You should look in sys prefs > display and also accessibility, see about increasing font size there.


Happy to help! Hope it all works out great!

 

[chriswhv6]

t'll go away. They all do that. Give a day or so

Ahh cool great to hear that.

Yeah it's honestly pretty insane LOL. "We think you're gonna love it."

Yep if it stays like that for a fair few years ill be super happy.
I guess i should leave optimising battery option on?
Ill be honest i still have not worked out exactly what this does? I know its something beyond 80% of the charge process?

Probably the higher res screen. You should look in sys prefs > display and also accessibility, see about increasing font size there.

Ohh i did not think about to check the accessibility section. Thanks.

Happy to help! Hope it all works out great!

Thank you so much once again and i appreciate all the info you provided

 

[izzy0242mr]

Its showing 2 Cycles for the battery charge in system report. (is that normal for new

And yes, I've heard lots of people say the same thing about brand new models. Shouldn't be an issue

 

[izzy0242mr]

be honest i still have not worked out exactly what this does? I know its something beyond 80% of the charge process

So my understanding is it monitors how often you use the Mac on battery and tried to guess when you're gonna be on battery (and charges to 100%) while leaving it at 80% if you're on the charger a lot.

I use the free app AlDente to limit my battery to like 75% (because I rarely am off charger) and I'll turn it off if I'm gonna be on a trip or something.

 

[chriswhv6]

And yes, I've heard lots of people say the same thing about brand new models. Shouldn't be an issue

Cool great to hear this!

 

[OasisNYK]

October would be great. I would love to buy a MBP 14 but want to get as much life out of it as possible. Given it’s been out for so long and the base M2 just got released I would prefer an M2 Pro. Unfortunately there is no way to know when it’s coming.

I don’t see why apple would wait much longer though if they have the chips.

 

[netnative]

M2 Pro and M2 Max MacBook Pro could launch as early as fall 2022 | 9to5Mac

M2 Pro and M2 Max MacBook Pro could launch as early as fall 2022

After releasing the M2 MacBook Pro and MacBook Air, Apple is still expected to launch a few M2 Macs between...

9to5mac.com

 

[OasisNYK]

M2 Pro and M2 Max MacBook Pro could launch as early as fall 2022 | 9to5Mac

M2 Pro and M2 Max MacBook Pro could launch as early as fall 2022

After releasing the M2 MacBook Pro and MacBook Air, Apple is still expected to launch a few M2 Macs between...

9to5mac.com

Ugh. Don’t tell me this lol. I don’t want to wait but I would also be upset if I bought now and new ones came in Oct/Nov.

 

[netnative]

Ugh. Don’t tell me this lol. I don’t want to wait but I would also be upset if I bought now and new ones came in Oct/Nov.

Exactly.

 

[chriswhv6]

Maybe i should have waited a couple of days before doing my impulse buy??

 

[netnative]

Maybe i should have waited a couple of days before doing my impulse buy??

If you purchased directly from Apple, you have 14 calendar days to return it —no questions asked.

 

[chriswhv6]

If you purchased directly from Apple, you have 14 calendar days to return it —no questions asked.

No unfortunately i purchased it from a business supply store called Officeworks, they had it at a cheaper price compared directly to Apple also Apple AU did not have the model i wanted in stock. Would have been a 2-3 weeks wait.

 

[XboxEvolved]

Gurman I would trust because he has a proven track record, MaxTech is a hack so I wouldn't even watch his channel, but either way the answer is yes all signs point to yes.

 

[chriswhv6]

As long as they DONT go and re-add back a USB-A port to the 2022 MBP range then ill be happy with my current purchase LOL. (all my current external devices i use have the USB-A cables/port).

Honestly i dont see what else they could bump up in the 2022 range to massively improve the 2021 range of Pro's besides the M chips of course. i doubt they would make the entry model 32GB of Ram standard would they?

 

[MozMan68]

I thought about this when I ordered my fully spec'd out 16" last week, but I only did that after reading the comparison reviews between M1 and M2 Air as a negligible upgrade. Yes, there's a difference, but you have to be a serious power user to really experience any of the M2 improvements (spoiler alert: I am not a power user).

Almost all reviews talk about the design change as being more of a factor with M2 as really "nice to have" bonus. Again, yes, it is better than M1, but not enough for an upgrade in almost all reviews I read.

EDIT: Oh..and with that being said...speculating you will not see M2 MBP's until Spring 2023 at the earliest.

 

[thv]

I ended up getting the Max but they had issues delivering 2021 MBPs, studio displays, ultra studios... It seems things are mostly being resolved but is there anything to say that there won't be delays again? I'm still waiting on my display ordered in April and dates to buy one of those or even a 140W charger are not short...

If I hadn't bought recently and still had no good (for my use) computer I would buy despite these rumors. Like Moz said I understand M1 to M2 to be a negligible upgrade. I don't think that's a problem, but I'm not going to wait nearly a year for something that might be incrementally better when what is out now is still a massive upgrade for me & will still last me several years.

If you have a computer you're totally fine with then I understand the waiting a bit more but there's always going to be something better and esp always a rumor of something better... Different than a chip upgrade I know, but still seeing people waiting to buy a display because of the same rumors of a 32" display after years of not getting one every time they said it would happen. It makes sense to buy the M1 pro right now if that's what you need/want.

 

[throAU]

M1 to M2 was 2 years.
Sure there was a pandemic in there, but I suspect that the M2 Pro won't release until early 2023 at the earliest. M1 Pro+ is well under a year old at this point.

I could be wrong, but I suspect Apple is more focused on the Mac Pro replacement processor at the moment, which is going to be a collection of huge dies (and I suspect will still be M1/A14 based as a result - its just going to be a lot more cores possibly in multiple sockets in my view).

The M2 is currently on a brand new cutting edge process, and yields on larger chips may take some time to shake out.

This is why A15 hit phones first, then the M2 and then later once the process is more mature, M2 Pro and Max - when they can reliably build larger chips without defects on it.

There is still time and money to make with M1 Pro/Max/Ultra for a while yet, and using the older TSMC process to keep building them while yields improve will leave the newer process free for making iPhones and M2 MacBooks.

Its not like all processes all made on the same fab line - and while keeping multiple production lines busy with different fabs Apple can keep production volumes higher.


As an aside - got to hold a colleague's brand new M2 Air to compare to my M1 Pro 14" today. It's a little lighter and a little smaller (barely noticeable), but I wouldn't be giving up the extra ports, better display and speakers for it myself.

Either way I'm out of the market until m3-m4 pro at least most likely

 

[throAU]

Latest versions of the Apple Silicon native version of Chrome are much improved from before, but I think still utilizes more resources than Safari (or Firefox).

Can confirm.

None of the browsers I have used on my m1 pro make the fan activate, including

• Brave (chrome based)
• Vivaldi (chrome based)
• Firefox
• Safari

I spend most of my day with Vivaldi, Safari and Firefox open all at once (different browsers for different profiles and compatibility reasons) plus teams, zoom, outlook, spark and a bunch of office apps and never hear the fan or see particularly bad battery life. Fan doesn't activate when I run some java apps to manage a legacy firewall either.

If you're sick of fan noise and on an intel machine I can 100% recommend selling it and getting any of the apple silicon machines. the difference is absolutely massive. My previous intel machines were noisy furnaces doing what I do. This machine is silent.

 

[OasisNYK]

I thought about this when I ordered my fully spec'd out 16" last week, but I only did that after reading the comparison reviews between M1 and M2 Air as a negligible upgrade. Yes, there's a difference, but you have to be a serious power user to really experience any of the M2 improvements (spoiler alert: I am not a power user).

Almost all reviews talk about the design change as being more of a factor with M2 as really "nice to have" bonus. Again, yes, it is better than M1, but not enough for an upgrade in almost all reviews I read.

EDIT: Oh..and with that being said...speculating you will not see M2 MBP's until Spring 2023 at the earliest.

For me I am not focused on the performance boost although I will gladly take it. It’s more about if I buy a MBP now that’s been out for a while and will lose support faster vs a refresh in the fall which will be supported a bit longer.

For the price I am paying that has value to me.

 

[spiderman0616]

Buy the computer you need when you need it. Constantly waiting for the "next" model will get you nowhere. You can wait for the M2s if you want, but then you'll be immediately worrying once there's a rumor about M3.

Don't let a company's marketing or YouTube army dictate your habits. If you need a new Mac now, get it. If not, wait. These things aren't meant to be upgraded yearly, and nobody will judge you for using "last year's model". That's all in your head. It's a fool's errand trying to stay current on notebook hardware unless you work for Pixar or something.