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After two Intel MacBooks and 10 years of flawless use—one after the other—I bought an M5 14" from Costco, and what a disappointment. I would honestly rather stay on my old MacBook for another five years.

Nothing—literally nothing—of the software I need is installing or running on it. I need Photoshop, I need its plugins, I need Movavi for video editing, etc.

Should I return it and get a Windows machine? What’s the point of a MacBook Pro if the applications you paid for won’t run on a brand new Mac? Why can’t they maintain backward compatibility?
What are you talking about? Photoshop works fantastically on M5. Movavi works partially, and they're working on making it Apple Silicon compatible. The fact that they didn't do this fully yet within the 5 years we have Apple Silicon probably means it's not their focus. If you need to run Movavi natively NOW, buy a PC. Or maybe try a VM like Parallels, it might bridge the gap till they update Movavi.

Above all: check software compatibility before you buy 🤷🏻
 
so, when you are getting new car you need to get new classes and license to drive? what if you are taxi driver and you need to do your work now?
No, it is more like buying a new electric car and blaming the manufacturer you can't pour gasoline in it.
Any taxi driver worth their salt would have known that before buying the new car.

Also, as said many times by others here in your own thread, Photoshop works fine on the M5. You just need to get the all new shiny electric one instead of the old gasoline one. You seem to have conveniently ignored al those posts.

You only have yourself to blame for not doing some basic research on forehand.
 
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Per your username, if you can afford a Breitling you should be able to afford a subscription for photoshop and newer versions of your plugins. The photography plan is $20 per month, if you use it heavily I’d think that would be worth it to you

The fact that Windows maintains all that backward compatibility is part of why Windows is an absolute mess. Apple is always forward looking and will clean house and deprecate things frequently, this keeps devs updating their apps using the latest technologies, and I for one like this strategy. If you’re wanting infinite backward compatibility instead, switch to Windows
 
Sorry to burst your bubble, but global usage…

Windows68.27%
macOS14.26%
It’s due to macOS being double the entry price.

Friend recently purchase an HP laptop with windows for $700 while the same spec Mac maybe a bit less would cost him $1500. Since this friend is stingy he would never pay extra for a Mac let along consider learning how it functions. Hence windows sales globally will always exceed macOS.
 
It’s due to macOS being double the entry price.

Friend recently purchase an HP laptop with windows for $700 while the same spec Mac maybe a bit less would cost him $1500. Since this friend is stingy he would never pay extra for a Mac let along consider learning how it functions. Hence windows sales globally will always exceed macOS.
Partially perhaps. But the fact that Windows OS lifecycle is much much longer than MacOS. Microsoft guarantees X years of security and OS updates, Apple does not. Companies don’t invest in unknowns.
 
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Partially perhaps. But the fact that Windows OS lifecycle is much much longer than MacOS. Microsoft guarantees X years of security and OS updates, Apple does not. Companies don’t invest in unknowns.
Not true for most organizations. Life cycle of a typical windows laptop in companies is 3 years. Which is why most companies lease laptops. In fact in most of the Macs are kept around 5 years and are purchased assets. It’s the cost not so much on years of usage.
 
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Partially perhaps. But the fact that Windows OS lifecycle is much much longer than MacOS. Microsoft guarantees X years of security and OS updates, Apple does not. Companies don’t invest in unknowns.
Microsoft has government contracts that are long term. Apple has none to my knowledge. That is a big deciding factor.
 
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Not true for most organizations. Life cycle of a typical windows laptop in companies is 3 years. Which is why most companies lease laptops. In fact in most pof they Macs are kept around 5 years and are purchased assets. It’s the cost not so much on years of usage.
It is about the life cycle of the OS, not the hardware. Most ancient programs still run on Windows 11. That certainty is what companies want. They don't get that with MacOS.
 
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Switching to windows won’t prevent you from having to buy another version of photoshop (subscription now). You could try out affinity, I know it’s not the same thing, but depending on what you’re trying to do it might be good enough for what you need, and it’s free
 
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It is about the life cycle of the OS, not the hardware. Most ancient programs still run on Windows 11. That certainty is what companies want. They don't get that with MacOS.
Most companies have problem running older programs primarily because of security. Security nightmare and open invitation to get hacked with ancient programs. Try installing any of these programs at decent size to large companies. People get fired for that crap. If you are talking about mom and pop shops or tech bros stretching the use to few years, that’s all good.
 
Most companies have problem running older programs primarily because of security. Security nightmare and open invitation to get hacked with ancient programs. Try installing any of these programs at decent size to large companies. People get fired for that crap. If you are talking about mom and pop shops or tech bros stretching the use to few years, that’s all good.
FIrst you make a point about the hardware life cycle.

Then I point out that it is not about the hardware but the software.

Now you come with a completely different argument about security and mom and pop stores?
Can you please make up your mind which goalpost you are defending?

Fact is that security updates and longevity of programs is guaranteed much longer on Windows than on MacOS, regardless what OS you personally may prefer.

That's the reason most companies, including multinationals and mom and pop stores globally prefer Windows.

To get on topic:
That's why the OP probably should have stayed on a Windows machine.. more chance his old Photoshop would still run. But the most uncertain factor here is Adobe and not MS or Apple 😉
 
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While Apple definitely does plenty of things that deserve criticism, this really isn’t one of them.
This issue comes down entirely to personal misunderstanding. If your workflow depends heavily on a specific app or a particular plugin, that’s something you should have verified in advance.

Right now, your only practical option is to run Photoshop under Rosetta, which allows it to load Intel x86-based Photoshop plugins. But even then, there’s no guarantee it will work. If the plugin is very old, or relies on legacy behaviors that Rosetta can’t translate, crashes are completely expected.

In fact, even on Intel x86 systems, Photoshop plugins have never been guaranteed to work reliably in the first place. Plugins are inherently fragile and highly dependent on specific conditions.

…There’s a saying that fits pretty well here: “Always read the prospectus before buying into an investment portfolio.”
 
At this point, honestly, this thread has become pretty amusing to read, so I can’t help but add a few more words.

Yes, Windows 11 can still run some very old Windows applications — but that only exists because Microsoft has carried an enormous amount of legacy baggage and paid a huge technical cost to do so. And even then, it only fulfills very specific, narrowly defined obligations. In real-world usage, those cases are actually quite rare.

Treating this as a serious argument for why an M5 Mac should be able to run Intel-based Photoshop plugins is a major conceptual misunderstanding — to the point where the difference between an application and a plugin isn’t even being recognized anymore.

Let’s think about this for a second. If a Windows 95–era plugin for a specific app depended on a 3dfx Voodoo card (ah, those beautifully naïve days), do you honestly expect Windows 11 to magically make that app work when it tries to access 3dfx hardware? Come on. This isn’t magic. Microsoft doesn’t guarantee that either.

Yes, Microsoft has invested heavily in backward compatibility, for many reasons — but it certainly isn’t out of pure goodwill. Some people earlier mentioned Microsoft’s long-term obligations in specific sectors, and that is one of the reasons. (That said, Apple isn’t exactly devoid of long lifecycle contracts either. And by the way, if we really want to talk about legendary lifecycle support, nobody beats IBM — it’s basically a living museum piece that still runs… and can still bite.)

Back to the Windows 95 + 3dfx example: the actual reality is that this falls outside Microsoft’s guarantees. And this is the part I want to correct — if you expect Apple to transition architectures while still offering backward compatibility, Apple has in fact done exactly that, and far more elegantly than you seem to realize. The answer is Rosetta.

Using a Windows 95 example to criticize Apple for not being “committed enough” when it comes to Photoshop plugins is simply a false analogy, and it really highlights a serious lack of basic IT understanding.

A more productive attitude — and a much better thread title — would be something like:

“Hi everyone, what’s the best way to run my specific Photoshop plugin on an Apple Silicon Mac?”

I’m fairly certain that approach would get you far more meaningful answers.

Oh — and Merry Christmas to everyone.
 
After two Intel MacBooks and 10 years of flawless use—one after the other—I bought an M5 14" from Costco, and what a disappointment. I would honestly rather stay on my old MacBook for another five years.

Nothing—literally nothing—of the software I need is installing or running on it. I need Photoshop, I need its plugins, I need Movavi for video editing, etc.

Should I return it and get a Windows machine? What’s the point of a MacBook Pro if the applications you paid for won’t run on a brand new Mac? Why can’t they maintain backward compatibility?
You’ve been a member of this forum for 14 years, you’re just trolling.
 
Someone getting angry about their own life choices. No sympathy.

The whole attitude here is one of expecting the world to meet the OPs own assumptions and if not, anger.

That’s not the way the world works - if you screwed up and wanted help, then ask for it. Don’t just shout about the world not complying with your unfounded assumptions.
 
It’s due to macOS being double the entry price.

Friend recently purchase an HP laptop with windows for $700 while the same spec Mac maybe a bit less would cost him $1500. Since this friend is stingy he would never pay extra for a Mac let along consider learning how it functions. Hence windows sales globally will always exceed macOS.
This hasn't been true in years. Often times macOS is cheaper then Windows pound for pound, and performance wise its definitely the big winner.
 
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