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Can you please advise us on your battery life? Also let us know about how warm your macbook gets?
I posted quite a few observations here: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/macbook-1-1ghz-m3-vs-1-3ghz-m7.1971827/
For some non scientific results, just real world usage....I cycled the battery after setting everything up. With moderate use starting at 9AM Wed morning to last night (Thurs) at around 7PM, emailing, youtube, surfing the internet, spreadsheets, word documents, and finally at the the end running a movie I had in iTunes so I could kill the battery to charge it I got a good day and a half of real world use, and that was the first charge.
I can say it had been on my lap half the time and at no point did it get uncomfortably warm. I expect the battery to get better after the first few cycles. I can also say I feel this is noticeable faster then the 2015 M5 and a little zippier than the 2016 M5. Apps open a little quicker, Final Cut Pro X renders videos a little faster. It is not drastically faster blowing anything away, but noticeable enough where I can see a small difference.
I can say it had been on my lap half the time and at no point did it get uncomfortably warm. I expect the battery to get better after the first few cycles. I can also say I feel this is noticeable faster then the 2015 M5 and a little zippier than the 2016 M5. Apps open a little quicker, Final Cut Pro X renders videos a little faster. It is not drastically faster blowing anything away, but noticeable enough where I can see a small difference.
Could you please advise on your battery performance after a few days of experiencing the m7? Tks.
Funny - I feel so differently and feel a bit left out at the moment. I would love to get one (so that I can carry it around with me and jump on VPN in case there is anything happening).
However , memory capped at 8GB instead of 16GB seems to be a huge problem for me as I would need a local MySql install, which currently takes up about 700MB, Android emulator at 2GB (sometimes two concurrent ones for AndroidTV + Android phone), Xcode and Appcode for iOS development - that runs up to 1.5GB, IntelliJ for PHP/Python/Scala/JavaScript/Ruby projects - that also takes up a couple of gigs, a ton of Terminal windows (which are not that expensive), Spotify (couple of hundred megs), Chrome (a couple of gigs), Vagrant box of 2GB -- and that doesn't even touch on the fact for needing Docker images running / odd Mono running.
Sad reality is that I'm one of those devs/tech QA folks that jump from project to project - literally every 10 minutes - to review code and give recommendations on how to build/code on a given project, or just help out a project manager/support person with feedback about a given apps behavior - meaning I have a need for everything to be kinda instantaneous. Currently I have 8GB on my macbook pro and it's a major pain with memory limitations.
If just the the laptops had 16GB I would be happy, as a fast CPU isn't as important for me.
I'm honestly surprise you can't configure these to 16GB. I understand these aren't targeted towards power users, but I think a good amount of rMB owners would have a a desire for 16GB. It nothing else it future-proofs your machine.
I definitely don't have a workflow like you. I mainly do Ruby, Rails, JS, and Xcode and focus at one thing at a time. ( By the way, iTerm is better than terminal, check it out)
Does your MBP have a SSD? While not a replacement for more ram, having a SSD in the rMB will should really speed out the page outs to the disk vs spinning drive in the MBP (if your MBP has a HDD instead of a ssd).
But yes, I would have loved 16gb, but 8gb is enough for me even with the page-outs thanks to the SSD in the rMB, but yes, ram is still much faster. I have a Mac Pro with 32gb of ram and I've even had page-outs happen there...
The rMB is not the right machine for you and your use cases. Wait for the upgraded MBPs. If you didn't need xcode, the xps 13 developer edition with ubuntu from dell would have been perfect for you.
What types of issues? Microsoft released a bunch of firmware updates. Did you apply them?
I just picked up the 1.2/512 GB rose gold model for the wife. It feels quite snappier in daily use; opening apps, changing settings, even youtube playback feels improved vs last year same model. I have not had a chance to test the battery life yet but it shows better results already in that department as well. I also haven't tested the mkv 1080p or 4K playback.
I am going to install either bootcamp or parallels for win 10 and will report back.
Regarding heat, I am very impressed with the Skylake. It gets warm but comparably cooler vs 2015 1.2.
Based on this initial usage, I am guessing m7 will even be better than m5 in burst speeds which will help with launching apps etc. The reason why I did not opt for the m7 was because I was concerned with heat and battery life. I still have 13 days to return the m5. Do you think I should get the m7 for even better performance?
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks for reading.
I am going to install either bootcamp or parallels for win 10 and will report back.
Regarding heat, I am very impressed with the Skylake. It gets warm but comparably cooler vs 2015 1.2.
Based on this initial usage, I am guessing m7 will even be better than m5 in burst speeds which will help with launching apps etc. The reason why I did not opt for the m7 was because I was concerned with heat and battery life. I still have 13 days to return the m5. Do you think I should get the m7 for even better performance?
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks for reading.
Fuji, I had initially purchased the m5 and was not unimpressed. I had originally wanted the m7. When I kept having issues with my external monitor blinking, I felt I could either exchange at the store, or upgrade to the m7 online. I plan on having this for a few years and opted to upgrade. It is not a night and day difference. M7 is slightly snappier. I feel the difference mainly in video rendering and processor intensive activities. Battery life is absolutely noticably longer, and I have not found the m7 to run any hotter than the m5 in any scenario.
DougFNJ, thanks for your response. Can you please advise how much longer battery life can you get with m7 compared to m5? I have heard mixed reviews on the heat output of m7. So it is really confusing
DougFNJ, thanks for your response. Can you please advise how much longer battery life can you get with m7 compared to m5? I have heard mixed reviews on the heat output of m7. So it is really confusing
I haven't times it from full charge to empty, but I can tell you that typically on the 2015 I would be at around 60% by noon on this I am at 80% by noon with similar usage.
Tonight I was doing some streaming with flash with the MacBook on my lap and it was a little warm where my 2015 was warmER. Again, not night and day differences on everything, but better across the board on the things that matter to me.
I just ordered one on Wednesday night and haven't received the shipping confirmation yet! Given that you guys have received it fairly fast, I guess I can expect mine in the next couple of days?
I ordered mine on the 9th of June (a Thursday), and received a "Preparing to dispatch" notification on the following Monday morning bright and early. It then "Dispatched" a few hours later. It is arriving today
I imagine yours will come through very soon! Though I know how hard it can be to be patient
I imagine yours will come through very soon! Though I know how hard it can be to be patient
I ordered June 10th, It arrived yesterday June 15th. Came early was estimated to be delivered on June 20th.
I ordered mine on the 9th of June (a Thursday), and received a "Preparing to dispatch" notification on the following Monday morning bright and early. It then "Dispatched" a few hours later. It is arriving today
I imagine yours will come through very soon! Though I know how hard it can be to be patient
Thanks!
I guess shipping time will take less on my side as I am currently located in Taiwan. I took it with the Beats promotion and it came pretty early, took just one day to arrive here from Singapore.
That was fast! I guess you were located in Asia?
I bought an m5/512GB in store on Monday, realized the m7 existed and bought one online Tuesday night (06/21) and it went to preparing for shipment yesterday night and hasn't changed yet (a day later). Expected delivery between Jun.28-Jun.30th and I can't freaking wait.
I'm in love with this laptop and can't wait to see it perform even better when I get my m7! One thing I'm shocked by is people saying the m7 gets better battery life than m5. That seems so absurd to me but I wouldn't complain if it did.
I'm in love with this laptop and can't wait to see it perform even better when I get my m7! One thing I'm shocked by is people saying the m7 gets better battery life than m5. That seems so absurd to me but I wouldn't complain if it did.
Not all CPU are made the same, there are slight defects, since these chips are on the micron level. Every wafer batch produces a wide range of cpu quality. Intel takes the best ones and those are the M7. Slower performing ones get labelled M5 and M3 etc. This process is called cpu binning
Higher grade cpu, like the m7, will be able to operate at lower voltages for certain clock cycles thus generating less heat. So for example, at 1200MHZ the M7 will use less power than a M5 or M3. However, the M7 being more efficient is able to push the limit further and run at a higher turbo clock speed. The amount of energy required grows exponentially as you increase the clock speed. For most short tasks like web browsing, running at low clock cycles, the M7 will eat less battery. Although, when you start doing heavier tasks, gaming/video-editing, the M7 will consume battery.
What programs do you run? The biggest real-world performance jump is from the m3 to the m5. The jump to the m7 is less noticeable, but some programs like Final Cut appear to work better with the m7.