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Apple's new redesigned Mac mini with M4 Pro chip features three Thunderbolt 5 ports, the newest specification of Thunderbolt that offers speeds of up to 120 Gb/s with Bandwidth Boost, which is triple the maximum bandwidth of Thunderbolt 4.

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The new standard also features support for native DisplayPort 2.1 output over USB‑C. Thunderbolt 5 is fully compatible with USB4, and supports advanced protocols such as PCIe 4.0, allowing faster data access speeds for storage devices and peripherals.

In contrast, the new Mac mini with M4 chip includes three Thunderbolt 4 ports. Front ports on both models include two USB-C ports that support USB 3, and an audio jack with support for high-impedance headphones.

Both models also come standard with Gigabit Ethernet, configurable up to 10Gb Ethernet for faster networking speeds, and an HDMI port for easy connection to a TV or HDMI display without an adapter. With M4, Mac mini can support up to two 6K displays and up to one 5K display, and with M4 Pro, it can support up to three 6K displays at 60Hz for a total of over 60 million pixels.

The new Mac mini with M4 starts with 16GB of memory for $599, while the M4 Pro models start with 24GB for $1,399. The new models are available to pre-order today with launch day arriving on Friday, November 8.

Article Link: Mac Mini With M4 Pro Features Three Thunderbolt 5 Ports
I'm really impressed. They seem to have dropped the price, and it's incredible to me that in 2024 you can now buy a powerful desktop computer that fits in the palm of your. They even gave it thunderbolt 5. This is incredible.
 
Does it have eGPU USB4 support? I ask this because it would be really nice for usage in Parallels when using Windows. Even if Apple doesn't support nVidia or Radeon graphics cards in macOS, it would be nice to be able to use it for Windows.
 
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Does it have eGPU USB4 support? I ask this because it would be really nice for usage in Parallels when using Windows. Even if Apple doesn't support nVidia or Radeon graphics cards in macOS, it would be nice to be able to use it for Windows.
lol no. There would be no ARM drivers anyways.
 
they shouldnt have put ports on the front. Maybe they had to with the smaller body. But it makes it look uglier. The work around for ports on the back was always adapters for those who couldn't deal. It made the computer look better that way for those who could deal. This looks worse.

...but...since so many on here say 8gb is not enough to comment on MR on my current base M1 Mini I'll probably upgrade anyway unless I go to the new iMac instead.
 
this is an amazing and unexpected update.. and then they cheap out and don't add wifi 7:rolleyes:
This being a desktop, hopefully many will use Ethernet.

The real crime will be the MBP tomorrow if it only has WiFi 6E. That’s meant to spend 90% of its time on WiFi.

I’m happy as I just placed a mini with 10Gb.
 
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I think the power button is AT THE BOTTOM?
Is it only me or they really done something that weird?

Wonder about the cooling of the M4 Pro.
So far as a M2 Pro owner I see we lost 1 thunderbolt port.
And the jack port is only on the front.
 
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I just don’t get it… they keep making ports like this faster and faster, yet it seems like the vast majority of people have no use for this. On the other hand, things people or businesses actually want, like M.2 slots, are impossible.

I’m been a IT Admin for many years and I’ve never used or purchased anything thunderbolt. No one outside very specific industries (video editing?) even knows what it is.

Obviously, we don’t really deal with Mac’s at work (expect a few edge cases), but it still dumbfounds me.
 
I just don’t get it… they keep making ports like this faster and faster, yet it seems like the vast majority of people have no use for this. On the other hand, things people or businesses actually want, like M.2 slots, are impossible.

Lots of people need the fast ports, especially for 4k monitors at 120 and 144hz. And you have many people transferring video and files via thunderbolt too. This is a bad take. Go visit some monitor forums, see tens of thousands of posts about people wanting 4k, 5k, even 8k monitors and TVs.

M.2? They sell single-slot enclosures for $20, enough for home users. Also have multi-slot enclosures if you need more. You need more than that? Well, Mac Mini isn’t for you, and not even expensive PC mobos have more than two or three M.2 slots. This analysis is simply off base. It just is.
 
Who knew memory could get EVEN MORE expensive… 8GB is $200.. that’s RIDICULOUS!

And all that time to engineer and NO WIFI 7? Certainly that cannot be too hard or expensive to implement.
 
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This is completely false.
I hate to break this to you, but outside of enthusiast forums most Mac users have very little technical knowledge. That’s why most consumers buy them in the first place, other than looking ‘pretty’ or wanting to socially ‘show off’.
 
So the fact that there is Thunderbolt 5 now, means that the ProDisplay XDR 2 would only be fully supported on Thunderbolt 5 equipped models?

I have a MacBook Pro M3 Max 40-core. Can we guess if a new ProDisplay XDR with ProMotion would be supported on it?
 
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SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY.

I didn’t think I wanted this before, but seeing the M4 Pro specs I am sorely tempted. I don’t even want to think about how much faster the M4 Pro Mac Mini will be compared to my $4000 M1 Ultra that’s only a couple years old.
 
I hate to break this to you, but outside of enthusiast forums most Mac users have very little technical knowledge. That’s why most consumers buy them in the first place, other than looking ‘pretty’ or wanting to socially ‘show off’.
You are moving the goalposts. You said that nobody outside of video editing personnel knows what thunderbolt is. That is completely false as I said.
 
Lots of people need the fast ports, especially for 4k monitors at 120 and 144hz. And you have many people transferring video and files via thunderbolt too. This is a bad take. Go visit some monitor forums, see tens of thousands of posts about people wanting 4k, 5k, even 8k monitors and TVs.

M.2? They sell single-slot enclosures for $20, enough for home users. Also have multi-slot enclosures if you need more. You need more than that? Well, Mac Mini isn’t for you, and not even expensive PC mobos have more than two or three M.2 slots. This analysis is simply off base. It just is.
I understand what you are saying, but again, all of this is incredibly niche for the typical home or business user.

I’m not talking about enthusiasts who want the best of everything.
 
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