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Mac Pro 1,1s are officially screwed

macpro2000 said:
The kicker is...they are just as capable as a newer machine, in some cases even more capable than some they are currently selling.
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It's not the speed thats the problem. Age plays into it too.

Mac Pro 1,1s have been upgrade constrained for years. New GPUs haven't worked in them either.

You got six years out of it, which is about the most I'd expect to get out of any computer. If you want to upgrade, buy a new Mac Pro. It helps ensure the future of the Mac Pro too.

People shouldn't be expecting to get 10 years out of computers with the latest upgrades. It's not realistic at all.
 
I don't understand why one would think their computer is all of a sudden obsolete because they can't upgrade to the latest (and not necessarily greatest) OS. I have no intention of upgrading my MP or MBP to 10.7 until I absolutely have to, as I am quite satisfied with 10.6 and my current collection of apps.

On the other hand if you want your MP to be more like your iPhone, then I guess you are SOL. . .
 
macpro2000 said:
But now I feel its absolute junk
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That's a bit harsh, but if you really feel that way, I'll haul away that "absolute junk" for free!

Seriously though, six years is a pretty good run for a computer, and it has years left in it. After all, it's not like your computer suddenly stopped working today; it works just as well as it did yesterday.

Personally, I'm still on Snow Leppy and my MP works beautifully. I hadn't even heard of Mountain Lion until today, and I don't really care.
 
macpro2000 said:
A 6 year old computer that was billed as a 64-bit computer. Now we are being told it is not enough 64-bitish. Nice.
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Buried in one of the ML discussion thread was a post that the desupport is driven by age and graphics as primary drivers. Included in the list of problematical graphics was the ATI Radeon X1900 , which shipped with the 2006 Mac pros. In part, this is because AMD has desupported the cards.

It is not simpily 64-bitness. There are iMacs with Core2 (supports 64-bits) that are disappearing too.

That said Apple has routinely put 6-7 year old machines into legacy status for over a decade. Anyone suprised by this has their head deeply planted into the sand.


There are frequently people who professing that some Macs can be updated in the mainstream to toil on for 6-10 years. The problem is that flies in the face of Apple's overtly stated support policies:

" ... Vintage products are those that were discontinued more than five and less than seven years ago. ... "
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1752

It isn't going to happen. Folks can take it out of the mainstream into unsupported ( no parts besides what buy used and no updates. ), but it isn't going to be supported.
 
Kinda sucks seeing that I just invested on a 5770 and extra 8GB RAM. However, I have every confidence that ML will be running on a 1,1 in no time. People do amazing thinks with jailbraking iPhones or cracking software. One would think that getting a MP 1,1 or my MB SE to run ML is a piece of cake for them.
 
MacinJosh said:
Kinda sucks seeing that I just invested on a 5770 and extra 8GB RAM. However, I have every confidence that ML will be running on a 1,1 in no time. People do amazing thinks with jailbraking iPhones or cracking software. One would think that getting a MP 1,1 or my MB SE to run ML is a piece of cake for them.
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It'll probably end up running on PCs so it wouldn't be fair to have real Mac owners left out :(
 
Graeme43 said:
http://www.macgeneration.com/news/voir/234432/os-x-10.8-necessitera-un-mac-recent

I think it says u need a Mac Pro 2008 or higher

:( :(:(:(:(
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Unfortunately, I can't read French. Does it say anything about what iMac revisions might be supported? If the Mac Pro 1,1 is cut off then I wouldn't be surprised if the early Intel Core2 Duo iMacs from late 2006 might get cut off as well. I would say its a pretty safe bet that the original Core Duo iMacs from early 2006 will get the axe.

I guess we will have to wait and see what Apple's definitive position is on which machines are supported.
 
The original Core Duo iMac's from 2006 were officially struck off from Lion, so they can only (officially) support Snow Leopard, again people have managed to install Lion on them though.
 
goMac said:
No, they haven't. Lion doesn't at all include a 32 bit flavor.
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???

People with Core Duo Mac's that don't support Lion have managed to install Lion, just Google it. I don't know what you mean my '32 bit flavor'??
 
ashman70 said:
???

People with Core Duo Mac's that don't support Lion have managed to install Lion, just Google it. I don't know what you mean my '32 bit flavor'??
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Nope. I have googled it, and only the first beta release of Lion could be hacked onto a Core Duo (32 bit only) Mac. Later betas started causing problems, and I haven't found any evidence that the release version can be made to work.

The Finder and other critical system components in Lion are compiled for 64-bit only and thus only work on a 64-bit processor.
 
Darth.Titan said:
Nope. I have googled it, and only the first beta release of Lion could be hacked onto a Core Duo (32 bit only) Mac. Later betas started causing problems, and I haven't found any evidence that the release version can be made to work.

The Finder and other critical system components in Lion are compiled for 64-bit only and thus only work on a 64-bit processor.
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You are right, worked with Lion GM only.
 
cutterman said:
I don't understand why one would think their computer is all of a sudden obsolete because they can't upgrade to the latest (and not necessarily greatest) OS. I have no intention of upgrading my MP or MBP to 10.7 until I absolutely have to, as I am quite satisfied with 10.6 and my current collection of apps.

On the other hand if you want your MP to be more like your iPhone, then I guess you are SOL. . .
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This is the same reason my Mac Pro still has SN on it. When Lion came out, I checked the list of 'broken' applications, and decided that it was not going to be worth the effort to upgrade. So here I sit at 10.6, with no plans to go forward.
 
Concur with others; still running Snow Leopard with no intention of upgrading (at least for the foreseeable future). You're not missing anything with Lion, IMHO.
 
I'm using my MP 1.1 only for work, and I upgrade my OS only when software I use requires it. That's why I'm still on 10.5.8. My MP (with 5160s) does a lot less in Geekbench than OP's one and I do not consider it as junk at all. Maybe because Geekbench isn't my main app ;)
For other purposes I use my Mini 2010 with Lion (mostly out of curiosity, SL was functional enough and a bit faster). I'd rather downgrade it to 10.6 than upgrade to 10.8, but the time will tell...
OP has many comps in his sig, probably few of them are 10.8 capable, so really where the problem is?
 
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Sweetfeld28 said:
According to this the Mac Pro 1,1 is supported:

Mountain Lion signals end of OS X support for older Macs
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This article doesn't say anything at all specifically about the MP 1,1 so are you assuming my omission the 1,1 will be supported?

This article has a more detailed list of supported Mac's and clearly states that only the Mac Pro 2008 going forward will support Mountain Lion.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5544/apple-releases-os-x-108-mountain-lion-preview
 
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