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jpcoelho

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To whom it may concern: Still no pain with firmware 430.120.6.0.0.

Works, sleeps, wakes up - no crashes at all.
Same here, on two different 6.1s which crashed daily before... multiple wake from sleep without any issue, and no other issues emerging (for it being a beta FW).?
 
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jpcoelho

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Yes, FW 430.120.6.0.0 present in the 12.4 Beta (I only installed the FW, still on the full 12.3.1 version). No idea when it will be released, but for me it's working perfectly like this!
 

liudayu

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Yes, FW 430.120.6.0.0 present in the 12.4 Beta (I only installed the FW, still on the full 12.3.1 version). No idea when it will be released, but for me it's working perfectly like this!
How do you only install the firmware? Do you mean original SSD update system then swap back with your own SSD?
 

mikas

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You could install to an empty dummy drive, and then change your boot drive, and continue with whatever suits you internally. It can be a USB drive too to install the beta.

There should/could be a way to terminate the install just after the bootrom update, but I missed it then I did it. So I now have a beta softaware external boot media at hand - for at no reason to me though.
 

tsialex

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You could install to an empty dummy drive, and then change your boot drive, and continue with whatever suits you internally. It can be a USB drive too to install the beta.

There should/could be a way to terminate the install just after the bootrom update, but I missed it then I did it. So I now have a beta softaware external boot media at hand - for at no reason to me though.
For doing firmware upgrades with Mac Pros, you need to do it from the internal disk ESP - no exceptions. Won't work from USB/Firewire/Thunderbolt.
 

mikas

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Yes Ok. Maybe I don't understand it all, or did not put it out right, I don't know. But you can install to a dummy USB drive though, and get your bootrom upadated by that procedure. And then with the new bootrom you could boot from whatever you need, from whatever OS is supported currently?
 

tsialex

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Yes Ok. Maybe I don't understand it all, or did not put it out right, I don't know. But you can install to a dummy USB drive though,

Yes, you can install, and boot, to an external USB/TB/FW drive, no problem.

and get your bootrom upadated by that procedure.

No, you can't do that. The ESP that you boot to upgrade the firmware needs to be the INTERNAL disk. Like I wrote, won't work for anything else. This is the main requirement for firmware upgrades via efiflasher and is valid for all Intel Macs.

Up to around 132.0.0.0.0, Apple even required that the internal disk of a MacPro6,1 was an AppleOEM one. At least you can do that now with 3rd party ones - but if you still have an ancient EFI version, you still need an AppleOEM one.

And then with the new bootrom you could boot from whatever you need, from whatever OS is supported currently?

Correct.
 

mikas

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Thanks.

I'll need to check my internal disk then. I guess it's supposed to be updated to Monterey beta because of all this me updating the bootrom. I'm running it from a USB NVMe adapter and Big Sur the latest right now.

ps. but it's ok, all of it, I've got spare disks to troubleshoot and try.
 

adingley

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...to upgrade the firmware needs to be the INTERNAL disk.
I didn't know that... but okay. It doesn't sound like a show-stopper though. For folks that are looking around for alternate drives from which to install the beta version; why not just (instead of swapping your SSD) create a new blank APFS volume on your internal SSD, and then install to that... then wipe that volume when you're done?
 

adingley

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Anyone have eyes on the 12.4 RC that was released today? I'm curious to see if we're going to see the FW make it through to the public release.
 

cb4ii

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Anyone have eyes on the 12.4 RC that was released today? I'm curious to see if we're going to see the FW make it through to the public release.
Just installed 12.4 RC. Still on firmware 430.120.6.0.0 which has been installed before.
 

loby

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Yes, you can install, and boot, to an external USB/TB/FW drive, no problem.



No, you can't do that. The ESP that you boot to upgrade the firmware needs to be the INTERNAL disk. Like I wrote, won't work for anything else. This is the main requirement for firmware upgrades via efiflasher and is valid for all Intel Macs.

Up to around 132.0.0.0.0, Apple even required that the internal disk of a MacPro6,1 was an AppleOEM one. At least you can do that now with 3rd party ones - but if you still have an ancient EFI version, you still need an AppleOEM one.



Correct
Just installed 12.4 RC. Still on firmware 430.120.6.0.0 which has been installed before.
I have been waiting for the RC and suffer through and did not install the beta to update the firmware.

I will do so and report back.
 

loby

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I have been waiting for the RC and suffer through and did not install the beta to update the firmware.

I will do so and report back.
I decided to wait until the RC public release. Trying to learn patience.. Will suffer for a few more days. :)
 

mikas

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..why not just (instead of swapping your SSD) create a new blank APFS volume on your internal SSD, and then install to that... then wipe that volume when you're done?
Haha, eventually that seems to be what I did. I now checked the volume, and I had created a container and installed betaOS to it. I thought I had wiped the drive, but Apples Disk Tool and APFS nowadays seems a little bit confusing. At least to me it is.
 

thos101

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Mar 6, 2022
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Just finished installing it (via System Preferences | Software Update) on my old 6,1.

Firmware now shows it has updated to 430.120.6.0.0 from 429.60.3.0.0.

Now to see if this fixes the sleep/crash issue for me.
Confirmed. I just installed the 12.4 update and the firmware was updated to 430.120.6.0.0 from 430.100.23.0.0
 
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adingley

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Okay — so, we all now know that this new firmware IS finally released. Fingers-crossed that it continues to prove to solve the crash-during-sleep issue on MacPro 6,1. units. I expect that my post is just another "yep, got it installed too" posts that we'll see in the next couple of days. For the benefit of the extra-cautious among us let's all make sure to chime back in after a week and two weeks to make sure that a) no more crash-during-sleep issues persist and b) that nothing notably weird cropped up from this FW update.

(putting this here in case future readers don't wanna un-pack the whole thread to get context around what this was all about).
 
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thos101

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Okay — so, we all now know that this new firmware IS finally released. Fingers-crossed that it continues to prove to solve the crash-during-sleep issue on MacPro 6,1. units. I expect that my post is just another "yep, got it installed too" posts that we'll see in the next couple of days. For the benefit of the extra-cautious among us let's all make sure to chime back in after a week and two weeks to make sure that a) no more crash-during-sleep issues persist and b) that nothing notably weird cropped up from this FW update.

(putting this here in case future readers don't wanna un-pack the whole thread to get context around what this was all about).
I hear you. What I can say is that the 12.3 beta firmware install cured the "crash on wake" problem for me. The latest firmware install in the 12.4 update has not brought the bug back. So..... whatever apple did fixed any (potential) problems in the 430.100.23.0.0 that they pulled before the official 12.3 upgrade......at least in my initial testing.
 
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