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‘You may regret asking for a reason!

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Couple of days ago the 6800duo hit its lowest price ever at 3700 new (back up today)| before recently there was zero price cuts!

A mere coincidence you say…or…or is it a sign encoded in that graph! I bet if you convert that to binary it equals 7802! 😜
THIS IS 100% CONFIRMATION w77800duo INCOMING!!!
 

maikerukun

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For those of you out there with an Apple Card, today, Apple released a new product! You can now get a SAVINGS ACCOUNT via your Apple Card and put your cash back in there! there is a 4.19% APY on this product which is awesome! 10x the industry standard. I started today and plan on definitely vesting up to the limit with it. They are FDIC insured up to $250,000 so yeah, have at it! :)

Here's the link directly on Apple.

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Also, I've decided to succumb to my carnal desires and go ahead and order both the Puget System I've put together (dual 4090's, Threadripper 56 core CPU), as well as whatever Apple is going to replace the 7.1 with. I also want an on the go solution for rendering. I'll be sticking with my M2 Max MacBook Pro for my on the go solution but if a laptop comes out that can manage to be as quiet as my M2 Max while still outputting desktop class GPU in Octane and Redshift, I may consider doing that as well.

Since I plan on expanding into full body 3D scanning at my studio I'm going to need a driver for that regardless and obviously the best solutions for that are still PC based.
 

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Also, I've decided to succumb to my carnal desires and go ahead and order both the Puget System I've put together (dual 4090's, Threadripper 56 core CPU), as well as whatever Apple is going to replace the 7.1 with. I also want an on the go solution for rendering. I'll be sticking with my M2 Max MacBook Pro for my on the go solution but if a laptop comes out that can manage to be as quiet as my M2 Max while still outputting desktop class GPU in Octane and Redshift, I may consider doing that as well.

Since I plan on expanding into full body 3D scanning at my studio I'm going to need a driver for that regardless and obviously the best solutions for that are still PC based.

Holy ****!!!!!
 
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maikerukun

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Holy ****!!!!!
I don't know if your response is intended as "HOLY!!!!!! Michael is actually being a non Apple based computer" or not but this means nothing further than I want to take advantage of those 4090 GPUs lol. I'm still 100% team Apple all the way and not going anywhere anytime soon lolol.

I leave for Taipei on Saturday, will be there for 5 days filming a Taiwanese commercial, then I'll be in Phuket in Thailand for 3 days until May 2nd for some R&R then I'll be back home on the 3rd and put in my order for my Puget.

I will definitely be doing comparisons with our little 2x w6800x duo monster and see how it all goes :)
 
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I don't know if your response is intended as "HOLY!!!!!! Michael is actually being a non Apple based computer" or not but this means nothing further than I want to take advantage of those 4090 GPUs lol. I'm still 100% team Apple all the way and not going anywhere anytime soon lolol.

I leave for Taipei on Saturday, will be there for 5 days filming a Taiwanese commercial, then I'll be in Phuket in Thailand for 3 days until May 2nd for some R&R then I'll be back home on the 3rd and put in my order for my Puget.

I will definitely be doing comparisons with our little 2x w6800x duo monster and see how it all goes :)

It's intended as -- HOLY **** HE DUN DID IT -- HE'S GOING ALL IN!!!!! I am sure that 56 core Threadripper BEAST is going to be a joy to use!!!!

Especially if you're gonna slap 2x 4090s in there -- That is just.... 😍
 
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I don't know if your response is intended as "HOLY!!!!!! Michael is actually being a non Apple based computer" or not but this means nothing further than I want to take advantage of those 4090 GPUs lol. I'm still 100% team Apple all the way and not going anywhere anytime soon lolol.

I leave for Taipei on Saturday, will be there for 5 days filming a Taiwanese commercial, then I'll be in Phuket in Thailand for 3 days until May 2nd for some R&R then I'll be back home on the 3rd and put in my order for my Puget.

I will definitely be doing comparisons with our little 2x w6800x duo monster and see how it all goes :)

Phuket! I expect lots of photos. I want qualitative analysis as to the awesomeness and clarity of the water! I need a ranking of what is closer to heaven on earth? Phuket, Maldives, Bora Bora.
 

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As I am currently (re)watching Star Trek: Enterprise (watched the originals as they aired), it made me think of this:

hGhwqLNYCLNRvd9etuGdnn-970-80.jpg.webp



While I still think Apple needs a tower form-factor ASi Mac Pro for those who need PCIe slots, I would love to see a new Mac Cube...

Same footprint as the Mac mini & Mac Studio, just taller; 7.7" in height would be purrfect, so it is an actual cube in bounding-box dimensions...

Asymmetrical M3 Extreme-X SoC, two "regular" dies & two "GPU/Neural Engine-specific" dies...
  • 32-core CPU (24P/8E)
  • 240-core GPU (with hardware ray-tracing)
  • 96-core Neural Engine
  • 512GB LPDDR5X RAM
  • 2.16TB/s UMA bandwidth
 

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As I am currently (re)watching Star Trek: Enterprise (watched the originals as they aired), it made me think of this:

hGhwqLNYCLNRvd9etuGdnn-970-80.jpg.webp



While I still think Apple needs a tower form-factor ASi Mac Pro for those who need PCIe slots, I would love to see a new Mac Cube...

Same footprint as the Mac mini & Mac Studio, just taller; 7.7" in height would be purrfect, so it is an actual cube in bounding-box dimensions...

Asymmetrical M3 Extreme-X SoC, two "regular" dies & two "GPU/Neural Engine-specific" dies...
  • 32-core CPU (24P/8E)
  • 240-core GPU (with hardware ray-tracing)
  • 96-core Neural Engine
  • 512GB LPDDR5X RAM
  • 2.16TB/s UMA bandwidth
Ha! I'm also re-watching Enterprise, about halfway through season two. I'm surprised at how well it's held up. Better than the old Mac Cubes at any rate ;)

When I was selling them, I just couldn't justify the cost vs a PowerMac, so I ended up getting my parents the base dual-mirror G4 PowerMac as it was basically the same price. Employee discount also helped...
 
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As I am currently (re)watching Star Trek: Enterprise (watched the originals as they aired), it made me think of this:

hGhwqLNYCLNRvd9etuGdnn-970-80.jpg.webp



While I still think Apple needs a tower form-factor ASi Mac Pro for those who need PCIe slots, I would love to see a new Mac Cube...

Same footprint as the Mac mini & Mac Studio, just taller; 7.7" in height would be purrfect, so it is an actual cube in bounding-box dimensions...

Asymmetrical M3 Extreme-X SoC, two "regular" dies & two "GPU/Neural Engine-specific" dies...
  • 32-core CPU (24P/8E)
  • 240-core GPU (with hardware ray-tracing)
  • 96-core Neural Engine
  • 512GB LPDDR5X RAM
  • 2.16TB/s UMA bandwidth
Both the Cube and Trash Pro are failed products for a very niche market.

Steve had a history with compact computers. The NeXT workstation also was a failed product.

We already have a minituarized Mac Studio and Mac Mini, we, in the niche pro market, need a tower that has PCIe slots and great cooling. Simple as that.

I've seen a ton of 2019 Mac Pros in high end studios (video + audio) so there's a market for this.
 

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While I still think Apple needs a tower form-factor ASi Mac Pro for those who need PCIe slots, I would love to see a new Mac Cube...

Both the Cube and Trash Pro are failed products for a very niche market.

Yup, failed so much that no one ever used them for anything; they just bought them to sit on a desk somewhere, totally unused...

Steve had a history with compact computers. The NeXT workstation also was a failed product.

Was it though...? There is the thought that Jobs started NeXT for the express purpose of selling it to Apple... Steve needed hardware to show off the NeXTSTEP OS...

We already have a minituarized Mac Studio and Mac Mini, we, in the niche pro market, need a tower that has PCIe slots and great cooling. Simple as that.

Never said anything about Apple NOT producing a tower form-factor ASi Mac Pro...

I've seen a ton of 2019 Mac Pros in high end studios (video + audio) so there's a market for this.

Which I am fully aware of, and which I usually remind folks of that ask why anyone would need an ASi Mac Pro with PCIe slots if it can't run third-party GPUs...

A Mn Extreme Mac Cube would basically be a Mac Studio XXL, giving two form-factors to amortize the R&D cost of the Mn Extreme SoC over...

Niche within a niche within a niche product, sure; ultimate ASi Mac power without PCIe slots, yup; very cool, absolutely...!
 

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Yup, failed so much that no one ever used them for anything; they just bought them to sit on a desk somewhere, totally unused...

Not sure if you're being sarcastic, sometimes hard to tell here :)
But the Cube was a failed product and quickly discontinued. The Trash Pro had a longer life, especially at professional studios, but it quickly became outdated and got a lot of backlash.

Was it though...? There is the thought that Jobs started NeXT for the express purpose of selling it to Apple... Steve needed hardware to show off the NeXTSTEP OS...

Steve was super young when he started NeXT, I doubt he had foresight in 1986 to make a company so Apple hires him back 10 years after and buys his OS. NeXT was solely used in enterprise and education sectors, in both of which it wasn't selling like hot cakes.

Which I am fully aware of, and which I usually remind folks of that ask why anyone would need an ASi Mac Pro with PCIe slots if it can't run third-party GPUs...

I hope you're joking. There's a ton of professional studios who need PCIe slots for audio and video cards. Here's a good example of how it's used by a music composer professionally. There are more professionals that need this, I am pretty sure people like Hans Zimmer uses a 2019 Mac Pro with all kinds of PCIe cards since he moved to macOS from Windows (he uses Cubase). Not counting the high end editorial houses which use PCIe cards to output high end 4k-8k video to reference monitors, etc. And not to mention PCIe NVME addon cards, USB expansion cards, NVME RAID cards, SATA cards, and so on. There's a huge community of Pros that need PCIe slots and they are not willing to move to PC/Windows. I can post more examples but you can find them on your own, I've been in plenty of studios where they have millions of dollars worth of hardware and the 2019 Mac Pro is sitting there with all kinds of PCIe cards inside for day to day work. Apple knows this market very well and won't let them go, I'm sure.

A Mn Extreme Mac Cube would basically be a Mac Studio XXL, giving two form-factors to amortize the R&D cost of the Mn Extreme SoC over...

I think that's a worthless investment for them. The Mac Studio is fine for most people, and even the Mac mini Pro is a fine piece of gear, but people I am talking about that need a tower like the 2019 Mac Pro are here to stay. Apple ignored them from 2013-2019 and there was huge backlash from the community and my peers (including myself, who works in this industry) and finally Apple listened in 2019, then the ASi transition happened now we are back to being in limbo, although the 2019 is a fine machine (I use it daily).

They already have taken care of the standalone desktop for Prosumers with the Mac Studio and Mac mini M2 (Pro and regular). Now we need the professional Tower update. It obviously won't be cheap, that's for sure.
 

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That's from 2019, but I highly doubt anything has changed since then, especially given that most of these studios spent millions on gear, and they don't frequently update their hardware (at least not as often as consumers).

In the music world, there are tons of recording studios and producers who also use the nMP -- so for example given that the ProTools HDX module (a STANDARD in the industry) is PCIe driven, if apple does not release a tower (or at least some form factor that supports PCIe), then there will certainly be more backlash.
 

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Never said anything about Apple NOT producing a tower form-factor ASi Mac Pro...

Which I am fully aware of, and which I usually remind folks of that ask why anyone would need an ASi Mac Pro with PCIe slots if it can't run third-party GPUs...

I hope you're joking. There's a ton of professional studios who need PCIe slots for audio and video cards. Here's a good example of how it's used by a music composer professionally. There are more professionals that need this, I am pretty sure people like Hans Zimmer uses a 2019 Mac Pro with all kinds of PCIe cards since he moved to macOS from Windows (he uses Cubase). Not counting the high end editorial houses which use PCIe cards to output high end 4k-8k video to reference monitors, etc. And not to mention PCIe NVME addon cards, USB expansion cards, NVME RAID cards, SATA cards, and so on. There's a huge community of Pros that need PCIe slots and they are not willing to move to PC/Windows. I can post more examples but you can find them on your own, I've been in plenty of studios where they have millions of dollars worth of hardware and the 2019 Mac Pro is sitting there with all kinds of PCIe cards inside for day to day work. Apple knows this market very well and won't let them go, I'm sure.

Uh, that is what I am saying; there is definitely a need for an ASi Mac Pro with PCIe slots, because there are more add-in cards than just GPUs to fill said slots...

I think you have just misunderstood what I was saying...
 
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That's from 2019, but I highly doubt anything has changed since then, especially given that most of these studios spent millions on gear, and they don't frequently update their hardware (at least not as often as consumers).

In the music world, there are tons of recording studios and producers who also use the nMP -- so for example given that the ProTools HDX module (a STANDARD in the industry) is PCIe driven, if apple does not release a tower (or at least some form factor that supports PCIe), then there will certainly be more backlash.
It's wild because they were literally on a pathway to something unbelievable with all of those companies and then UNDERCUT THEM lololol. Like let them continue developing for both sides of your coin!!
 
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It's wild because they were literally on a pathway to something unbelievable with all of those companies and then UNDERCUT THEM lololol. Like let them continue developing for both sides of your coin!!

This is one of the things I don't like about Apple. Remember when they added Steam VR support in macOS and made it part of a presentation? Then completely ignored it. No one uses Macs for VR development.

They have done that again and again for the last 30 years. I guess they are still a pragmatic company, if they don't see profits, they don't care. But I am pretty sure they are working on a ASi Mac Pro, it would be stupid not to.
 
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This is one of the things I don't like about Apple. Remember when they added Steam VR support in macOS and made it part of a presentation? Then completely ignored it. No one uses Macs for VR development.

They have done that again and again for the last 30 years. I guess they are still a pragmatic company, if they don't see profits, they don't care. But I am pretty sure they are working on a ASi Mac Pro, it would be stupid not to.
Yeah, I laughed when I saw "Epic Games" on the list. They probably just got a Mac Pro and used it to check emails.
 
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