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ActionableMango said:
PhD's post is the most reasonable prediction in my opinion, and it's also what I had expected.

But I don't understand delaying the reveal until November and then trying to undo it by controlled leaking.
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Maybe they didn't want to be like "Hello again. The new flagship mac will ship with two midrange cards ($200 retail) with 40% less tflops than Nvidia's offerings, it will be $4,000"... at least in front of a live audience. Don't worry, I'm sure they'll just do what they did with the radeon 280 and call it a D900. I'm still not convinced it's going to happen.
 
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pat500000 said:
I remember the link that you showed about the CEO of AMD talking about working with Apple on MBP.

So, are you saying that IF the next mac pro comes out...it's gonna be more "handicapped?"
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I have no idea. The words are this: Apple and AMD co-engineered together the polaris package(AMD did the design of uarchitecture). Vega uarchitecture can be out of this context completely.
 
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Sadly I can't reach DNG but he coincides with PhD and it's strange not being announced the nnMP on last keynote, I doubt it's not ready at least has available rx460-480 gpu, and while there is no "compute" option ready it's just matter of few months until Vega and not the first time when Apple announces a product with some options available later.

So I especule either there were a flaw detected after endurance stress test with AMD silicon or another thing.

Or Apple still has excess inventory to clean and opted to wait until Vega completes endurance stress test (typically a Mac running 24/7 at full throttle) and launch together the iMac which also seems delayed on the same mysterious issue.
I personally blame AMD for Mac Pro and iMac delays its unlikely Apple having issues with mature Intel chips, neither the iMac inventory too huge as to require cleaning the stores a bit more.

But not to discard Apple could switch back to nVidia for the Mac Pro, since every publication about AMD Mac GPUs Talk about the iMac and the MacBooks no mention the Mac Pro.

Maybe also the nMP is fully nVidia based and they have their own issues will Pascal drivers (not a trivial rebuild) also explains movement at nVidia personnel.

Let's see, I'm happy now putting together the last pennies for my new MacBook Pro. Not afraid to wait 6mo more for the Mac Pro (likely for next spring)
 
goMac said:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mac-pro-rising.1979012/page-24#post-23109269

This post.

Obviously the date is wrong but other than that it checks out.

They also made the same post Friday:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/new-mac-pro-said-to-arrive-next-month.2010360/#post-23816153
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I think people are missing the point. Ph.D. admitted that his post was a joke mocking the OP right here: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mac-pro-rising.1979012/page-27#post-23113956. Any further claims to inside info from him I would take as continuing the joke, and any similarities to rumors from other sources are completely coincidental. Don't use this post as any sort of support for a particular view of what a nnMP will be like. It's just a reflection of his own opinion, the direction he sees Apple has been heading the past couple years, and the general pessimism of this forum concerning the MP. It's anyone's guess as to whether or not it reflects reality, because we've had zero credible/verifiable leaks.

Aaron
 
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Adreitz said:
I think people are missing the point. Ph.D. admitted that his post was a joke mocking the OP right here: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mac-pro-rising.1979012/page-27#post-23113956. Any further claims to inside info from him I would take as continuing the joke, and any similarities to rumors from other sources are completely coincidental. Don't use this post as any sort of support for a particular view of what a nnMP will be like. It's just a reflection of his own opinion, the direction he sees Apple has been heading the past couple years, and the general pessimism of this forum concerning the MP. It's anyone's guess as to whether or not it reflects reality, because we've had zero credible/verifiable leaks.

Aaron
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Indeed, I have no inside information. As I myself pointed out, I was mocking the original poster and the extensive, slavering attention that the extraordinarily-unlikely original post had engendered.

After my admission, I've not made any further "inside info" posts - just my own continued normal comments and speculation. But I have to admit I was amused to find my old troll-ish post recently echoed as possible confirmation of other troll-ish posts.

Still, I do believe my speculation is in fact the most likely scenario and that we will see a mildly updated tube in Apples own "sweet, sweet time."

Oh, and this thread finally needs to die!
 
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The Internet is a big echo chamber; a word echoes around, is published by others in some web page, re-tweeted, re-commented upon until louder echoes overtake it. Come to think of it, the world of thought is like that too!
 
Indeed... and I'm ready to wait longer. It still is completely not understandable and irritating why Apple rather accepts the massive amount of forseeable negative feedback instead of saying "Sorry, it's going to take another 6 months, here's why", but that's another story.
 
ManuelGomes said:
Maybe this:
http://wccftech.com/amd-vega-10-powered-fury-series-card-spotted-drivers/

And as I posted in the other thread, Skylake-W and the new Intel X299 PCH will probably be the cause of delay.

If this is so, what a great machine the nnMP will be, and well worth the wait.
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That is DeviceID for Fiji chips. WCCFTech is so clueless that they are not even able to get tiny bit, that invalidates their whole article. Thats how stupid this site is.

7300.5 is DeviceID for Radeon Pro SSG, using Fiji chip.
 
xsmi123 said:
After yesterdays articles, it renews my feeling that the OP had information.
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I agree! That was exactly my thought… either he had information OR Apple took "inspiration" from the complaints the community had… could be either way. And by community I also mean larger companies and production houses using the Mac Pro.
 
jannikmeissner said:
I agree! That was exactly my thought… either he had information OR Apple took "inspiration" from the complaints the community had… could be either way. And by community I also mean larger companies and production houses using the Mac Pro.
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I wouldn't be surprised it was a bit of both. It was only last October that Apple was saying quite clearly that they were out of the display business.
 
xsmi123 said:
After yesterdays articles, it renews my feeling that the OP had information.
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OP mentions that it won't be exactly like a cMP tower, which falls in line with the "modular" word the Apple team kept referring to. That's about it.
 
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jannikmeissner said:
I agree! That was exactly my thought… either he had information OR Apple took "inspiration" from the complaints the community had… could be either way. And by community I also mean larger companies and production houses using the Mac Pro.
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Don't think so. The OP was talking about PCIe. Apple appears to have very little interest in the PCIe ecosystem beyond, potentially, GPUs. Apple acknowledged for the first time a problem with their strategy related to GPUs and thermal limits in upgradabilty. They didn't really say anything about slots. I suspect we see the smallest possible compact non-tower design that can fit a single GPU card in it with enough thermal headroom for 5 years of GPU upgrades. 75% of the Pro complaints drop off once people can put in the latest Nvidia card each year.
 
edanuff said:
Don't think so. The OP was talking about PCIe. Apple appears to have very little interest in the PCIe ecosystem beyond, potentially, GPUs. Apple acknowledged for the first time a problem with their strategy related to GPUs and thermal limits in upgradabilty. They didn't really say anything about slots. I suspect we see the smallest possible compact non-tower design that can fit a single GPU card in it with enough thermal headroom for 5 years of GPU upgrades. 75% of the Pro complaints drop off once people can put in the latest Nvidia card each year.
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But you can't put an Nvidia card in just anything and get the grunt horsepower were looking for. You NEED PCIe. Take the OP's messages and string them along as a single statement. I'm telling you, he/she was on to something.
 
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The nMP is going down the tubes. Cancelled. EOL. In the trash can.

> Has had price cuts. Still being sold

major buyers complained loudly and then switched to Windows workstations, hit Apple where they feel it.

> They took 3 years to feel it?


But Mac Pro is not over. Factory now retooled for 7,1.

> umm?


I have seen. Not conventional tower

> We'll see.
 
rawweb said:
#fakenews #factcheck ;)
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The OP has all the credibility of a story that "Nostradamus predicted that Barbara Bush would have a mole removed from her left ear".

The OP made a few vague predictions. The Apple Amigos admitted that the tube was a big mistake, and they're working on a "modular" replacement.

MR goes wild.
 
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AidenShaw said:
The OP has all the credibility of a story that "Nostradamus predicted that Barbara Bush would have a mole removed from her left ear".

The OP made a few vague predictions. The Apple Amigos admitted that the tube was a big mistake, and they're working on a "modular" replacement.

MR goes wild.
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Agreed!

Only most of us thought Apple would just abandoned the platform outright. I'm still a bit shocked they actually admitted some fault and appear to be trying to make it right. However, by the time 2018 rolls around, they will have been sitting on the mistake for 4/5 years. Pretty bad. :mad:
 
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rawweb said:
Agreed!

Only most of us thought Apple would just abandoned the platform outright. I'm still a bit shocked they actually admitted some fault and appear to be trying to make it right. However, by the time 2018 rolls around, they will have been sitting on the mistake for 4/5 years. Pretty bad. :mad:
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This. I think they did damage control here. Telling there platform early that a update will come next year, hoping to keep people on hold with an update and stop moving away to PC.

I am not impressed by the update they did. Its still old stuff. But if you're in the need of a mac pro, its better this than what they had before.

Still, I am curious what they are going to do with the next Mac Pro. In 2018 my PC investment is almost 2y old. t this moment i am very happy with my rig. Its stable, fast, super easy to expand or to update. Why would i go back. If your not locked in or only want to work with osx, i dont see any reason to go for mac pro.
 
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AidenShaw said:
The OP has all the credibility of a story that "Nostradamus predicted that Barbara Bush would have a mole removed from her left ear".

The OP made a few vague predictions. The Apple Amigos admitted that the tube was a big mistake, and they're working on a "modular" replacement.

MR goes wild.
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It sounds to me you didn't read the subsequent updates he gave because he did give SOME specifics. Do I believe that we will get what he saw, no. Do I believe he saw a test mule? Yes I do.
 
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