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Mac Pro vs. Hackintosh
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2 things would make this system great. A 6 core xeon version and native OSX. So in other words a Mac Pro.
This is my hackintosh 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nickjf20/7096654475/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nickjf20/6710286199/
Runs great and benches far faster than the mbp in my sig.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nickjf20/7096654475/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nickjf20/6710286199/
Runs great and benches far faster than the mbp in my sig.
I agree. The two things going for that machine the level of customization available without voiding the warranty, and sick GPU that I hope would eventually come to the new iMac . . . but I doubt it.
I'd focus on Geekbench, not cores. Depending what you're doing maybe even more so CPU + OpenGL/CL.
What would happen if "for example"
HP or Dell start selling Desktops which are "100% Hackintosh ready" without advertising of course..... they can sell them as normal PC's but... they are somehow 100% Hackintosh compatible ... would Apple sue them or something?
HP or Dell start selling Desktops which are "100% Hackintosh ready" without advertising of course..... they can sell them as normal PC's but... they are somehow 100% Hackintosh compatible ... would Apple sue them or something?
The whole fun for me in hackintosh is picking out the components myself. Apple is the only manufacturer I buy built systems from. Because they do a better job than I can
I personally believe that hackintosh Laptop's aren't great. Better to just buy a Macbook
@Tutor
Though this is speculation, it appears that the Mac Pro is approaching EOL status with Apple. It seems to be following the path of the X Serve.
If Apple do EOL the MP it seems to me that it will not be long before the MP specific code in OS X is no longer updated (and might even be deleted at some point before too long).
What impact would this have on the ability to maintain a Xeon based hackintosh? The reason I ask is that I am at the point of needing to update to current hardware (I am on a PPC Mac) to run current software and an iMac simply does not suit me as I want to able to install PCIe cards, such as a PCIe SSD (non-SATA) without stringing together a bunch of externals via Thunderbolt, although I would prefer a TB capable MB.
The alternative, it seems to me, is going over to "the dark side". Windows 7 does not appear to be all that bad though I would prefer to remain with OS X.
Most of the software I use is available for a Win based machine e.g. Photoshop, Lightroom & such. Some apps would not be available though...Devonthink Pro Office, Yojimbo and such although some people say that Adobe Acrobat Pro can do many of those functions. I would have to find new password managers (apart from the one in Firefox) and apps to keep my software license data in and so on, but these are probably not insurmountable problems.
So here I am, standing on the banks of the Rubicon, contemplating crossing it knowing that there is no turning back once it is crossed.
Thanks in advance for any thoughts or advice you might care to offer.
Though this is speculation, it appears that the Mac Pro is approaching EOL status with Apple. It seems to be following the path of the X Serve.
If Apple do EOL the MP it seems to me that it will not be long before the MP specific code in OS X is no longer updated (and might even be deleted at some point before too long).
What impact would this have on the ability to maintain a Xeon based hackintosh? The reason I ask is that I am at the point of needing to update to current hardware (I am on a PPC Mac) to run current software and an iMac simply does not suit me as I want to able to install PCIe cards, such as a PCIe SSD (non-SATA) without stringing together a bunch of externals via Thunderbolt, although I would prefer a TB capable MB.
The alternative, it seems to me, is going over to "the dark side". Windows 7 does not appear to be all that bad though I would prefer to remain with OS X.
Most of the software I use is available for a Win based machine e.g. Photoshop, Lightroom & such. Some apps would not be available though...Devonthink Pro Office, Yojimbo and such although some people say that Adobe Acrobat Pro can do many of those functions. I would have to find new password managers (apart from the one in Firefox) and apps to keep my software license data in and so on, but these are probably not insurmountable problems.
So here I am, standing on the banks of the Rubicon, contemplating crossing it knowing that there is no turning back once it is crossed.
Thanks in advance for any thoughts or advice you might care to offer.
If you build a Socket 1366 Xeon machine, you are probably protected for 5 or so years, maybe a little longer since Apple will have to support the currently shipping machines for a fair period of time. But it's very hard to predict as even seemingly inconsequential incremental OS X upgrades can "break" certain Hackintosh builds. Socket 2011 for the newest Xeons--support is not yet present, and looks to be a longways off, probably with the next gen Mac Pro.
I decided 3 or 4 months ago to switch to Hackintosh for reasons similar to your own. This weeks "upgrade" validated that decision for me. LOL I kind of went overboard http://www.overclock.net/t/1238540/build-log-deep-thought-case-labs-mh10-water-cooled-evga-sr-2-build
I'm happy enough with the Hackintosh to not have any interest in a new Mac Pro anytime soon. I think Apple will produce a Socket 2011 pro machine with updated graphics, thunderbolt, USB 3 and so on sometime in the next year; it will come with a significant case redesign. It probably won't outperform my Hackintosh.
If you specifically want/need a PCIe SSD think twice, I haven't seen a hackintosh build with one. On the other hand, being able to pick a case that holds dozens of hard drives does away with how former Mac Pro owners think about internal drives.
My guess is little to none, unless you later change to new (i.e., non-previously existing and not backwardly compatible) hardware. Having retro emulation is the key. Lately, there's always something, like a new PC-only feature where Apple has decided to sit this one dance out, e.g., USB 3 or SATA 6 where the onboard version of it will not operate or be difficult to operate in OSX, but will operate robustly in Win7. So you use the USB 2 ports or retro SATA ports if you don't want to boot into Win7. Big deal - the new ports aren't on the Mac Pro natively and if they are capable of being added to a Mac Pro by a pci-e card or the like, then no problem - just remove the card from your Mac and put it in your PC because Macs are now PCs anyway. Plus, mama necessity is, after all, always promiscuous and giving birth continuously - so a native solution may pop out before even paternity is established. Doesn't that little invention look cute? There'll always be people inventive enough to trick a device/machine, like a public telephone, into believing that it should be at their beck and (make that) call. SJ proved this point in many ways.
Make sure any PCI-e card you buy supports both OSX and Windows = no problemmo and driverless versions are your best bet -> see, e.g., http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/SSD/PCIe/OWC/Mercury_Accelsior/RAID
I agree with Tutor because the proof is right here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTT5tfylS3c&feature=relmfu
and I had extensive talks with Mike who did this review. The amazing thing (again) is that the Hackintosh is a better performer. Go figure...
First Hackintosh Build / EVGA SR-X Dual 6-Core
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzsH5z1PqRU
EVGA SR-2 DUAL XEON MOTHERBOARD
24 GB RAM
NVIDIA GTX 280 VIDEO CARD
NVIDIA GT 240 VIDEO CARD
DUAL XEON X5650'S @ 3.6 GHZ
LG BLU-RAY BURNER
96 GB RAM CAPACITY
OSX 10.6.5
26,000+ GEEKBENCH SCORE
18.32 CINEBENCH 11.5 CPU SCORE
HEAVILY MODDED 4U RACKMOUNT
http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=275740
heres another one wich scored nearly 30k geekbench
Here are the final pics of THE HACKINBEAST !!! I actually have Mac OS X 10.7.2 up and running fine now and the X5650's are OC'd to 4.0GHz stable at 34C in a 74F room, with GeekBench (v2.2.6) scores of 29152!!! With some tweaking I know this can go higher. (Special Edit: New GB Score: 29,465!!!). This unit's total cost $3,350. A Top-of-a-Line (equivalent) Mac Pro Tower (with all the trimmings) would cost around $10,750. This HackinBeast is also 30% faster as you can OC this bad boy as with a Mac Pro Tower… you can't. Oh, by the way, for those that believe that PC's are cheaper, a BOXX Tech (PC equivalent tower) would cost around $10,600. So both Apple and BOXX Tech are about the same cost when you pay retail. Plus, half the fun (as all of you know) is building it.
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Thats all?
Mine:
EVGA SR-2 DUAL XEON MOTHERBOARD
48 GB RAM
2x NVIDIA GTX 480 VIDEO CARDS
DUAL XEON X5680'S @ 4.2 GHZ
OSX 10.7.4
That’s all?
Mine:
EVGA SR-2 DUAL XEON MOTHERBOARD
48 GB RAM
2x NVIDIA GTX 480 VIDEO CARDS
DUAL XEON X5680'S @ 4.2 GHZ
OSX 10.7.4
very nice very nice indeed , some pics would be super
found a smashing nice case for a hackingtosh
haha this whole hackingtosh reminds me of the Early 80s as a Teenage boy (14) I was living in Hong Kong, and my First PC was a Apple II clone, obviously the clever Chinese didn't call them Apple II computers, Mine was called a Banana, I think it cost me £100 when the real thing was nearly 3k. Happy memory's.
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very nice very nice indeed , some pics would be super
found a smashing nice case for a hackingtosh
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Its just in one of these cases since it was the only tower case at the time that could fit the SR-2.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112159
very nice very nice indeed , some pics would be super
found a smashing nice case for a hackingtosh
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haha this whole hackingtosh reminds me of the Early 80s as a Teenage boy (14) I was living in Hong Kong, and my First PC was a Apple II clone, obviously the clever Chinese didn't call them Apple II computers, Mine was called a Banana, I think it cost me £100 when the real thing was nearly 3k. Happy memory's.
heres a picture
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That's funny I also remember a Apple II clone called the PineApple. Apple sued them out of existence.
What if I want the operating system, which is far and away the best on offer, but I want hardware that Apple doesn't feel like selling?
That's the thing -- what it costs to build the computer is not nearly enough to justify Apple's pricing. They're charging for the operating system. And in the case where they make a computer that can do what I want, I will happily pay their premium for the OS.
But more and more of the time, they don't have anything on offer that can do what I want...