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X5690 3.46GHz Mac Pro 2010 mono Quad Core

Yes, the X56xx series can run as in single CPU or in a dual CPU setup. W36xx is single CPU only.
I know the CPU Intel Xeon 5600 series should be normally works well in a Mac Pro single processor but I have not read any experience from someone who has successfully tested a CPU X5680 or X5690 in a Mac Pro one Quad Core. I've tested a Xeon X5687 3.6GHz in my Mac Pro mono Quad Core and the firmware does not recognize it. So I need to be absolutely certain that an Intel Xeon X5690 will works well on my Mac Pro 2010 one Quad Core.
 
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I think it was an article on Ars that stated that W series was for a single CPU MP, and X was for dual. I think it was related to the firmware hack story for a 4,1 > 5,1.
 
X5600 for dual CPU

I think it was an article on Ars that stated that W series was for a single CPU MP, and X was for dual. I think it was related to the firmware hack story for a 4,1 > 5,1.
Except it seems that the processors X5600 series designed for dual-processor should be compatible with the Mac Pro single processor. But I have not yet read a single case of someone who has tested a X5680 or X5690 on a single processor Mac Pro.
 
Does anyone knows if an Intel Xeon X5690 3.46GHz processor are compatible with a Mac Pro 2010 with a mono Quad Core 3.2GHz? If I'm asking this question, it is because I know that the Intel Xeon 5600 series are designed for dual-processor, hence my question. In other words, does someone has already successfully tested a X5680 or X5690 Xeon on Mac Pro 2010 with a single CPU?

Thank you.

I think you've asked this question in about 3-4 threads already. Yes, the dual processor cpus work in single cpu systems. The only difference is that the dual chips have the needed QPI links to make dual systems work.
 
I know the CPU Intel Xeon 5600 series should be normally works well in a Mac Pro single processor but I have not read any experience from someone who has successfully tested a CPU X5680 or X5690 in a Mac Pro one Quad Core. I've tested a Xeon X5687 3.6GHz in my Mac Pro mono Quad Core and the firmware does not recognize it. So I need to be absolutely certain that an Intel Xeon X5690 will works well on my Mac Pro 2010 one Quad Core.

If it works in the dual like posted here it will work in the single, the firmware will have the same cpu support in both machines. Still don't know why you people get caught in the MHz trap though them chips are too damn expensive when you can get the x5650 for dirt cheap at the moment. It near doubles the performance of the single core system compared to the stock cpus.
 
Xeon X5687 on eBay

If it works in the dual like posted here it will work in the single, the firmware will have the same cpu support in both machines. Still don't know why you people get caught in the MHz trap though them chips are too damn expensive when you can get the x5650 for dirt cheap at the moment. It near doubles the performance of the single core system compared to the stock cpus.
I will never buy a Xeon X5690 at full price, whether $1,500.00 USD. I will watch on eBay and wait until prices drop. New, a Xeon X5690 costs really too expensive.

Thank you for your feedback.:)
 
mac666er, did you run Geekbench with any other apps running? Your score seems a little low. I know Geekbench isn't perfect, but it's been reasonably consistent and useful for me as a quick gauge.
 
I will never buy a Xeon X5690 at full price, whether $1,500.00 USD. I will watch on eBay and wait until prices drop. New, a Xeon X5690 costs really too expensive.

Thank you for your feedback.:)

Your welcome but in the here and now if needing it ~$200 gets you x5650 that I can guarantee will work as I just put one in my spare 2010 single core last week.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/281255265723?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

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mac666er, did you run Geekbench with any other apps running? Your score seems a little low. I know Geekbench isn't perfect, but it's been reasonably consistent and useful for me as a quick gauge.

This is necro thread revival that Geekbench is from three years ago run today it will likely be higher with the version three being used now.
 
From another thread:

Even though the X series was a dual CPU version, it should still run on a single CPU socket. It's the other way around where the W series will only run on a single CPU system.

Actually not correct. The prefix alpha E, X or W have nothing to do with single or dual CPU capability. It is the first numeric after the Alpha that denotes single or dual CPU capability. The 3 is only for single CPU operation only, the 5 is for dual CPU Operation, but will also work in single CPU 5,1 or upgraded 4,1 Mac Pros.

Lou

Sorry but everyone does not necessarily consult all threads like you.

That's really quite an attitude. So, rather than doing the research yourself, you expect others to do it for you:confused: There is a huge knowledgeable data base here, please learn how to use the search function to explore it. You have much to learn!

Lou
 
Hi

Just to check in and revive the thread, as I'm about to do some version of a 2 x x56XX upgrade to my 4.1/5.1. I was considering 5670s r 5675s, but I have actually found a couple of 5690s at a decent price, but before I do it I noticed this…

http://forum.netkas.org/index.php/topic,852.msg24313.html#msg24313

Someone's written up an upgrade guide with a warning about the higher power draws of the 5680s and 90s (135w over 95w) and system longevity.

Does anyone know if this is a true concern? I have seen several builders doing this upgrade, just wondering how using it in the real world i.e. long video renders might push the system on power draw/heat.

Thanks for any advice
 
For what it's worth I have been using a couple of W5590s (TDP 130W) in an upgraded dual 4,1 for nearly two years now. Lots of overnight and longer renders, no problems whatsoever.
 
Thanks for that reply, its helpful.

Lastly, does anyone have any suggestions for how I might test a pair of x5690s as simply as possible, before I get my hands on my machine physically (its in another city at the moment)?

I found a pair, via ebay, I would like to buy them and then confirm they are fully functioning before I begin the job on my machine.
 
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Someone's written up an upgrade guide with a warning about the higher power draws of the 5680s and 90s (135w over 95w) and system longevity.

Does anyone know if this is a true concern? I have seen several builders doing this upgrade, just wondering how using it in the real world i.e. long video renders might push the system on power draw/heat.

Thanks for any advice


Supplying the necessary power isn't a problem. As for the temps, just install smcFanControl (free from here: http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/23049/smcfancontrol ) and tweak the settings to get the temps in the low 30's at idle; then you're good to good.

Your welcome but in the here and now if needing it ~$200 gets you x5650 that I can guarantee will work as I just put one in my spare 2010 single core last week.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/281255265723?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

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This is necro thread revival that Geekbench is from three years ago run today it will likely be higher with the version three being used now.

The dead will rise and, in the case of CPU upgrade discussions, it's often around the 3-4 year period after the birth of the CPU(s) being replaced. I sometimes buy used Sandy Bridge era CPU chips, but as to Nehalems and Westmeres which can be overclocked substantially [ https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=18356733&overclocking#post18356733 ], I'd recommend considering new ones only, unless you are absolutely sure about their history and most importantly that the chips haven't been overclocked significantly { BTW and paradoxically, the 5680s are better for overclocking than the 5690s }. I buy my 5650s new @ $170 ea from here: https://www.eoptionsonline.com/CSea...=AND&DisplayMode=List&SearchPartNumbersOnly=0

mac666er, did you run Geekbench with any other apps running? Your score seems a little low. I know Geekbench isn't perfect, but it's been reasonably consistent and useful for me as a quick gauge.

Both the 32-bit (24,547) and 64-bit (27,952) scores are (separately and in pairing) in the range of reasonableness for a Mac Pro. Of course, if it was a Hackintosh, then those Geekbench 2 scores would be considered low [ see, e.g. http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/500630 (dual 5680s on a 2010 built EVGA-SR2 system that still runs like a champ)]. While Geekbench 2 and 3 aren't perfect, I've been using Geekbench and Cinebench to tune all of my systems, including setting smcFanControl on my MacPro systems, since 2009 when I did the first successful Nehalem CPU swap on a 2009 MacPro4,1 [ http://blogs.computerworld.com/geekbench_reveals_next_3_3ghz_mac_pro_update ]. Morover, I used both of them (Cinebench and Geekbench) last weekend in tweaking the first 8 core x4 CPUs/32- real core Hackintosh [ see posts nos. 1022 to 1030 here { https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1333421/ } and Geekbench performance here: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/558552 ].

Does anyone knows if an Intel Xeon X5690 3.46GHz processor are compatible with a Mac Pro 2010 with a mono Quad Core 3.2GHz? If I'm asking this question, it is because I know that the Intel Xeon 5600 series are designed for dual-processor, hence my question. In other words, does someone has already successfully tested a X5680 or X5690 Xeon on Mac Pro 2010 with a single CPU?

Thank you.

I haven't tested using a single X5680 or X5690 in a single CPU Nehalem or Westmere era MacPro. The X5690 is mainly comparable to the Xeon W3690 which is designed for only single CPU systems. The x5690s have 2 QPIs [Quick Path Interconnect] (whereas the W3690s have only one QPI - to talk with only other but different components), so that the two CPUs can do things such as talking strategy and supply updates to each other via that additional QPI link (Of course, my E5-4650s in x4 CPU systems have even more QPI links). Moreover, the x5690s can take a little more heat while requiring a little less power than the W3690s [ http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/858/Intel_Xeon_W3690_vs_Intel_Xeon_X5690.html ].

Finally, I recommend that anyone considering a Nehalem/Westmere CPU swap on a MacPro think twice (and shun) before using as a replacement any Nehalem/Westmere CPU model whose number doesn't end in a zero, such as one ending in a 7.
 
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Hi

Just to check in and revive the thread, as I'm about to do some version of a 2 x x56XX upgrade to my 4.1/5.1. I was considering 5670s r 5675s, but I have actually found a couple of 5690s at a decent price, but before I do it I noticed this…

http://forum.netkas.org/index.php/topic,852.msg24313.html#msg24313

Someone's written up an upgrade guide with a warning about the higher power draws of the 5680s and 90s (135w over 95w) and system longevity.

Does anyone know if this is a true concern? I have seen several builders doing this upgrade, just wondering how using it in the real world i.e. long video renders might push the system on power draw/heat.

Thanks for any advice


For what it's worth I have been using a couple of W5590s (TDP 130W) in an upgraded dual 4,1 for nearly two years now. Lots of overnight and longer renders, no problems whatsoever.

I have also been using W5590s in my 5,1 since September with no ill effects. My Two Boost Fans run a little faster, around 1300 RPM, when doing normal routines, but IMHO that's totally acceptable. Temps @ the Heatsink are around 115° to 120° F.

Lou
 
So your saying a pair of these arent a good choice?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=181454445619&ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:CA:3160

The seller has a few sets of other X5680s aswell.

Those are X5690s; thus, their model no. does end in zero. So they don't have a model no. ending that would cause me concern. They are, however, used. So you need to know what kind of system they're from. If they're strictly/solely from servers (which cannot easy be overlocked) then I'd have less concern about them. If they came from an overclockable system, then I'd shun them ( see my post here - https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=18356733&overclocking+101#post18356733 ) in which case I'd just buy a new pair for about $1k each at eoptionsonline.
 
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I just wish we could put E5 Xeons in there! The architecture is a lot better and more efficient. You get higher speeds and more cache..30MB! Also single 12 core cpus, imagine having 24 Cores! Of course you will end up paying an arm or a leg.

I hate when Intel changes Sockets, why can't the idiots design a socket with 3000 pins, right now they use 2011 and in future they can just use the extra ones and that way a socket doesnt get changed every damn 5 years and leave bunch of people behind tech and needing to pay a lot of money!
 
I hate when Intel changes Sockets, why can't the idiots design a socket with 3000 pins, right now they use 2011 and in future they can just use the extra ones and that way a socket doesnt get changed every damn 5 years and leave bunch of people behind tech and needing to pay a lot of money!
Not sure whether you were serious there, but:

  1. The unused pins cost money to make, which has to be paid by the customers eventually.
  2. Where should the "unused" pins be connected to, if nothing is there currently? Any general-purpose expansion port is most probably outdated by the time it could come into use.
  3. How many unused pins do make sense as reserve? What if you overprovide 100 and suddenly need 101 more for the next revision?
  4. Technology evolves. Pin layout may have to be changed for technical reasons (LGA2011v3 has the same number of pins as v2) or things like e.g. optical interconnects become mainstream that weren't possible when the socket was originally conceived.
  5. Many companies make good money on recurring design changes, so why bother?
 
I just wish we could put E5 Xeons in there! The architecture is a lot better and more efficient. You get higher speeds and more cache..30MB! Also single 12 core cpus, imagine having 24 Cores! Of course you will end up paying an arm or a leg.

I hate when Intel changes Sockets, why can't the idiots design a socket with 3000 pins, right now they use 2011 and in future they can just use the extra ones and that way a socket doesnt get changed every damn 5 years and leave bunch of people behind tech and needing to pay a lot of money!

So you could plug in a CPU that is electrically incompatible?
 
Finally, I recommend that anyone considering a Nehalem/Westmere CPU swap on a MacPro think twice (and shun) before using as a replacement any Nehalem/Westmere CPU model whose number doesn't end in a zero, such as one ending in a 7.

The X5675 3.06GHz dual CPU was a BTO option in the 2012 Apple Mac Pro, the fastest Apple offered in the dual CPU 2009/2010/2012 models. It's a 95watt TDP CPU. I have installed many and they work fine. GB ~28,000..
 
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