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Phone mics, (and even most SPL-meters) have a relatively high self-noise, making them incapable of recording broadband noise below roughly 30dBA.

A lot of environments have a higher broadband noise as well - AC, many forced convection ventilation systems, or simply city noise through less than stellar sound isolation also yield a background noise level that is relatively high. People in such environments will not perceive a broadband low level addition to that background noise much, or even at all. People in quieter environments however will have a different baseline.

Thus the perception of the Studio noise levels, even before we get into personal hearing acuity or preferences, was always going to be subjective.

I was quite blunt in my critisism of the thread based on what I felt was an exaggerated title, but be that as it may, the actual discussion has been surprisingly balanced. This thread is obviously for those who, for whatever reason, care about noise at these levels. And if you don’t, well that doesn’t invalidate the experience of those who do.

The Studio Macs have a robust cooling system for electronics that have a (by desktop standards) very modest power draw. There was every reason to expect these systems to be significantly quieter than the MacBook Pros, and thus be surprised if they aren’t. At the end of the day this discussion is for the benefit of the users of the systems and Apple, pinpointing an area where they might improve the peception of their product with something as simple as a modified fan curve.
 
I appreciate your summary, you've put it well and captured the overall disappointment clearly.

To be fair, at the very start the title wasn't as accurate and that was an oversight rather than malice. I changed it once I realised I was attracting the wrong audience. It is now, from what I believe, accurate. Personally, I won't know until the Studio arrives next week.

My expectation, like the iMac Pro it arguably replaces, is that Apple would have made it as quiet if not quieter. Especially as the chip is about the 1/3 to 1/4 of the power of the Intel CPU + AMD GPUs it replaces.

However, it does not appear the much lower thermal energy these computers generate, have translated into lower idle fan speeds, even though it could easily have been so. Which is generally more problematic with smaller blower fans, due to the type of noise they make.

It was Apple's design decision to run it faster than needed, but to have less variability. My preference would be for the fan to run a lower RPM (e.g. 800RPM) and spin up to 1300RPM when it is under load - Alas, I don't get to make that decision.
 
I appreciate your summary, you've put it well and captured the overall disappointment clearly.

To be fair, at the very start the title wasn't as accurate and that was an oversight rather than malice. I changed it once I realised I was attracting the wrong audience. It is now, from what I believe, accurate. Personally, I won't know until the Studio arrives next week.

My expectation, like the iMac Pro it arguably replaces, is that Apple would have made it as quiet if not quieter. Especially as the chip is about the 1/3 to 1/4 of the power of the Intel CPU + AMD GPUs it replaces.

However, it does not appear the much lower thermal energy these computers generate, have translated into lower idle fan speeds, even though it could easily have been so. Which is generally more problematic with smaller blower fans, due to the type of noise they make.

It was Apple's design decision to run it faster than needed, but to have less variability. My preference would be for the fan to run a lower RPM (e.g. 800RPM) and spin up to 1300RPM when it is under load - Alas, I don't get to make that decision.
Please do report back here once you get it. I also have an iMac Pro, so I'm really curious to hear how the noise compares.
 
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can confirm: fans will stop when put to sleep.
After having my fans spinning away all night and multiple re installs to work out if it was me or not (creating another account was OK, machine went to sleep and fans turned off) it looks like if you have a Studio Display and have Ask Siri enabled listening to the display mic the fans on the Studio Mac stay on when it goes to sleep.

Lots of hair pulling and I didnt have much to start with.
 
1. Mac Classic: WHAT? SORRY, CAN’T HEAR YOU. I’M AT THE COMPUTER.
2. Use hearing protection. I haven’t seen anyone mention it before, but we’re at 15 pages now. You can get passive protection that will cut ambient sounds from 10 to over 30db (if you keep your mouth closed. Seriously.) I have extremely sensitive hearing (when I was younger I could hear the ultrasonic alarm systems used in stores even through the crowd noise) and carry hearing protection almost all the time.
3. Check your office environment. Where are the hard surfaces? Move the Studio around to see how the position affects the apparent noise.
4. Return it.
 
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Hi all ! Is it possible that someone records mac studio MAX sound/noise at approximatively 50 cm with a wall behind fan exhaust ?
If possible measure db at this distance with mac turned on, then mac turned off.
This should be very helpfull for me to decide to order or not.
I tried to listen in apple store, but it’s too noisy room to evaluate the mac noise.

Thanks !
 
Order it, test it at home and then decide if you want to keep it. Much better solution


Hi all ! Is it possible that someone records mac studio MAX sound/noise at approximatively 50 cm with a wall behind fan exhaust ?
If possible measure db at this distance with mac turned on, then mac turned off.
This should be very helpfull for me to decide to order or not.
I tried to listen in apple store, but it’s too noisy room to evaluate the mac noise.

Thanks !
 
Hi all ! Is it possible that someone records mac studio MAX sound/noise at approximatively 50 cm with a wall behind fan exhaust ?
If possible measure db at this distance with mac turned on, then mac turned off.
This should be very helpfull for me to decide to order or not.
I tried to listen in apple store, but it’s too noisy room to evaluate the mac noise.

Thanks !
Mine reads 32 db on and 31 with all turned off.
 
Just got my M1 Max studio, 64 GB, one TB. I was very concerned prior to receiving it however on idol with the fans at 1300 and absolutely no problem with the studio. I have been setting it up connected a couple of externals, so far the only way I’ve been able to make the fans louder is with the Mac fan speed changer.

The question is how long would it take for some dust buildup, or for the OS to get cluttered, and for the system to start running hotter… and needing to crank up the fans to 1700 or 2000 or more; which is where the problem of noise will arise.

Or what are the chances that the fans will stay at current level with the same use over the next couple years?

If it will perform as it is right now, I will cancel my 14 inch MBp order
 
Just got my M1 Max studio, 64 GB, one TB. I was very concerned prior to receiving it however on idol with the fans at 1300 and absolutely no problem with the studio. I have been setting it up connected a couple of externals, so far the only way I’ve been able to make the fans louder is with the Mac fan speed changer.

The question is how long would it take for some dust buildup, or for the OS to get cluttered, and for the system to start running hotter… and needing to crank up the fans to 1700 or 2000 or more; which is where the problem of noise will arise.

Or what are the chances that the fans will stay at current level with the same use over the next couple years?

If it will perform as it is right now, I will cancel my 14 inch MBp order
If it's in a fairly clean setup, NOT on the floor, chances are it will stay quiet for quite a while. I would say at least a year and probably longer.
 
Mine reads 32 db on and 31 with all turned off.
thank you :)
It seems really quiet in contrary as what i have read on this thread.
Your mac studio max (is it a max version ?) is in front of a wall (behind it) ? If so, according your measures, i definitively will give it a try.
 
thank you :)
It seems really quiet in contrary as what i have read on this thread.
Your mac studio max (is it a max version ?) is in front of a wall (behind it) ? If so, according your measures, i definitively will give it a try.
Mine is the base max, not the ultra. It sits in front of a wall with 2 3/4 inch between the air outlets on the back and the wall.
 
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From all the complaining here, I expected my Mac Studio (M1 Max) to make a lot of fan noise. Fortunately, it's whisper-quiet to my ear, even when under load doing complex video operations. I'm not in a soundproof room, so the fan just blends in with ambient room noise. I'm very happy with it so far.
 
So....today I've received my Mac Studio Ultra (48Core GPU).

It boggles my mind, how people on YT can call the Mac Studio silent.
My Mac Mini M1 is silent. My Macbook Pro M1 14" is silent for 95% of the time.

The Mac Studio at the default 1300rpm fan speed is not loud but annoying, at 1100rpm it is better - but still not great and clearly audible. Power consumption at idle / package power 3W - 3.5W.

At 1300rpm is sounds like:
- Mac Mini M1 running at 3100rpm - 3200rpm (default 1700rpm)
- Macbook Pro M1 14 running at 3100rpm - 3200rpm
- Mac Pro 2013 running at 900rpm (default 767rpm) - this is from memory ;-)

Any of my PC's run quieter than the Mac Studio. It reminds me of "my" 2013 Mac Pro fan noise issue.
 
So....today I've received my Mac Studio Ultra (48Core GPU).

It boggles my mind, how people on YT can call the Mac Studio silent.
My Mac Mini M1 is silent. My Macbook Pro M1 14" is silent for 95% of the time.

The Mac Studio at the default 1300rpm fan speed is not loud but annoying, at 1100rpm it is better - but still not great and clearly audible. Power consumption at idle / package power 3W - 3.5W.

At 1300rpm is sounds like:
- Mac Mini M1 running at 3100rpm - 3200rpm (default 1700rpm)
- Macbook Pro M1 14 running at 3100rpm - 3200rpm
- Mac Pro 2013 running at 900rpm (default 767rpm) - this is from memory ;-)

Any of my PC's run quieter than the Mac Studio. It reminds me of "my" 2013 Mac Pro fan noise issue.
just when I read enough whisper quiet reviews to calm my concern, you go and post this horrific news.

This has to be a manufacturing issue. Yes everyone has different ears and room noise, but I can't imagine this many people are landing so far off from one another .
 
Whether it's a manufacturing issue or just perception, either way, I'm waiting for the M2 Pro Mini. I've never heard anyone complain about how loud the fan in their Mini is. I have the iMac Pro and the 14" M1 Pro MBP and they are both dead silent almost all the time. I want that in my next desktop, and the performance difference between an M1 Max Studio and M2 Pro Mini won't be enough to justify even a small difference in noise.
 
The new Mac Studio comes with a lot of power, but with it also comes a bit more noise.

It’s 25dB at idle which is as loud as the Mac Pro (rack mount). As it will tend to sit closer to the user than a Mac Pro would, which means it will be perceived to be louder as well.

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Because it employs smaller blower fans, they emit a more unpleasant noise vs larger fans. For example, with the Mac Pro, the large fans are quiet and smooth whereas the blower fan to cool the memory is louder and higher pitched.

Until there are real samples in the wild, it remains to be seen if it is unpleasant or not.

I hoped with moving from inefficient Intels to the super efficient Apple Silicon fan noise would be lower in the high-end desktop range, but It seems the design philosophy is to use a higher than needed fan speed, but less variability.

This equates to fans running faster than required so that when tasks that spike GPU and CPU usage it will tend to stay quieter rather than creating the more obvious noise of variable fan speeds.

Mine is arriving in April, so won’t be able to test before then.

But if you're looking for something super quiet, the Mac Studio won't beat the currently unbeaten (and unavailable) iMac Pro for top end desktops.

However, you will only notice this if you have a quiet office. People sharing offices or those with noise floors above 30/35dB, will not notice it at all. Also if you're not sensitive to low fan noise, it's not anything to particularly to worry about.

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Post release update:

It looks like my initial assessment is accurate - it's one of the loudest macs at idle.

Apple has designed a computer that exhausts say 150 watts of heat at idle, as opposed to say 60 watts of heat at idle. The upside to this is that the fans do not move much, the downside of this is we have fans that are going much faster than they need to be at idle.

It's more complicated than what I've put above about because a) I don't know how much thermal energy the fans are designed to blow out at idle b) it doesn't take into account the thermal energy store of heating up the heatsink. But the result is the same, a consistent fan speed at idle which has a large thermal buffer so it doesn't spin up and down often.


Is this going to be a problem for me?

It depends on the noise floor in your office. What is it? If it's above 30/35dB it will likely be "silent". If it's around 25dB, you will likely notice it. Use the decibel X app on your iPhone to measure sound (it's free, but doesn't appear so). I don't recommend you use the Apple watch, because it doesn't go below 30dB.

Also, if you do have a quiet office, you may not care about fan noise - many people do not.

For reference my office is as quiet as 24dB.

Why is this not a problem for most reviewers?

Many professional reviewers may work in offices with other people, the noise floor there is likely much louder than those who work from home. They also may not be sensitive to it.

Is the Mac Studio a "loud Mac"?

It is one of the loudest at idle, but the reviews show that is barely spins up during workloads and has excellent thermal properties. At idle, it will be almost as loud as a Mac Pro - and may be perceived to be louder as it's closer than a Mac Pro would usually sit - At load, it has excellent cooling and will tend to be quieter than many other Macs, including laptops.
Sorry, I have no idea from where you get your info, but I own Mac Studio M1 Max and M1 Ultra and both under even super crazy heaviest load I ever tested it never spin fans more than idle which is 1340 rpm = also idle noise which is ABSOLUTELY NOT POSSIBLE TO NOTICE IN SILENT OFFICE.
BTW same behavior is on the Max and Ultra - no difference - always fans in idle speed, no matter what load you will throw at it.
 
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Whether it's a manufacturing issue or just perception, either way, I'm waiting for the M2 Pro Mini. I've never heard anyone complain about how loud the fan in their Mini is. I have the iMac Pro and the 14" M1 Pro MBP and they are both dead silent almost all the time. I want that in my next desktop, and the performance difference between an M1 Max Studio and M2 Pro Mini won't be enough to justify even a small difference in noise.
I’m not really sure we’ll see a « pro » Mx in the mac mini. I hope but I really don’t believe apple will do that.
 
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