If you need the computing power, of course take a chance. I don't think it's a majority of machines that have the problem, but all I have is a sample of one, and it's noisy.
If you don't, I'd hold off or go with a mini.
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Mac studio v1 fan noise - it's going to be one of the loudest Macs at idle.
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If you don't, I'd hold off or go with a mini.
It is super quiet. If you need/want one, get it. I'm absolutely rolling my eyes about people complaining that this thing is too loud. Either: 1. They're insanely picky, and will never be pleased by anything, or 2. Something is wrong with their unit.
If you need it/want it, I would... I was nervous but mine has been totally fine. After my intel imac's fans it feels like a blessing lol. The fan noise is a non issue and people have been whining about that before hearing the damn thing. I'm not denying some have the whine because obviously they do. Seems there are enough flawed ones that Apple definitely needs to fiddle with something. But again everyone needs to remember that a forum thread about a problem is obviously going to draw people who have the problem... I only found this forum cause I had a question to ask. Most people aren't googling for a place to say/itching to write "hey! my computer works perfectly fine, no problems here"
It's awful easy to blame other people and call people names, but be that as it may, there's enough people that have said they had the problem -- it's real, period, and yes, there's something wrong with their units, but it's common enough that you can say there's a manufacturing problem, not just one off errors.
You don't have the problem great, congrats. Not everyone is so lucky.
If there's a problem with your Studio then why not return it for a properly functioning unit?
Past the 14 days for one, for another mine isn't too bad, and the chance of getting one that's worse is pretty high. Always availability has been something against just returning it.
Your Mac Studio will have 1 year of warranty even without Apple Care. If there is a problem with your machine, as you're saying, then return it. If you receive another unit that is broken, return it. Or have Apple repair it.
If there is truly a problem, it would boggle the mind that one would not exchange for a properly working machine, or have it repaired.
Time. Just when do you think I can get a new one in? It might boggle your mind, but not mine. Even an annoying machine that mostly works well is WAY better than no machine at all, and the next machine, when it comes in might be just as bad or worse.
And I'm talking about annoyance here, not a totally failed machine.
In 20 years of Macs I've never had to use Apple Care - with something like this, would they repair and return the same device, swap it for another refurbed device, or swap it for a fresh unit? Just wondering if the longer we hold off returning these the more likely we'll get replacement units from a newer batch with the issue potentially rectified?
So contact Apple and tell them that your machine is faulty, and you would like a new one. They will place the order for you and send you a box to return the old one. Tell them that you can't send yours in now, but rather when the new one is available to ship. You'll lose a day or two. I've literally done this before with Apple.
If your machine is broken, and not operating properly, then yes, it boggles my mind why one would complain about it online but do nothing about it.
Not until I can be sure the next on I get wont be worse, and I wouldn't have *any* days without. We're "complaining" online (really just discussing) trying to figure out what the problem is and if the next one we get will be fixed, or not. It totally boggles my mind your participation in this thread -- you obviously don't have the problem.
Its a total nightmare, I don/t have the Mac Studio yet, sitting on the fence here, Apple could say its not a problem, thats just the way the Mac Studio is, then theres nothing we can do. The whining noise volume is relative, the same noise may not bother some people, their room may have various other noises masking it anyway, for me, and many others, a in treated room for recording, the mac studio needs to be very quiet, it would only be 2 foot from me also. I checked the Mac Studio in the Apple store and couldn't hear it at all, BUT, thats the APPLE store, full of people and other noises. If I knew I could definitely get a replacement that wouldn't have the noise, then thats less of a risk, but people are being given replacements that are the same or even worse.
I just read this, and a few other similar reviews saying the Macstudio is Apple's loudest Mac.
Its constant whining thats the problem, even if idle, the only time it stops is if the computer is put to sleep. https://www.stuff.tv/review/apple-mac-studio-review/
So, if you look at this thread in a different light, maybe all those who are complaining about the constant whining actually have normal MacStudios, those who have really silent ones are the lucky few!? I dont think I am willing to chance it. A shame as I though it was the perfect computer. Looks Like I will go for the Macbook m1 Pro or M1 Max. I need silence in my studio space!
Its constant whining thats the problem, even if idle, the only time it stops is if the computer is put to sleep. https://www.stuff.tv/review/apple-mac-studio-review/
So, if you look at this thread in a different light, maybe all those who are complaining about the constant whining actually have normal MacStudios, those who have really silent ones are the lucky few!? I dont think I am willing to chance it. A shame as I though it was the perfect computer. Looks Like I will go for the Macbook m1 Pro or M1 Max. I need silence in my studio space!
There are two sounds. One is just the normal ‘whoosh’ of air from the fans exhaust. Some hear this, some don’t. I hear it at the 2 feet you mention; further than this, silence. At my seated position at 3.5 feet, my sound meter registers an extra 0.5 dBA FWIW over ambient (studio and attached 4-bay external drive awake versus asleep). Ambient is 31 dBA.
The other sound is the whining. I cannot think Apple would say this is not a problem. They have already replaced machines with this issue. You are right to say some replacements have had the problem too. However, as you know from the poll thread, I think those who’ve had this experience have been very unlucky.
The other issue then is lost productivity waiting for replacement(s) if one is unlucky enough to get the whine in the first place. Of course, only you can make the call whether the risk is acceptable for your situation.
I've had my Mac Studio since it's release and I'm still waiting to hear what the fan sounds like. It sits about 18 inches from me.
My participation in this thread is a result of having spent time here while waiting for my studio, left to wonder if I was going to have this awful "whine" that people are complaining about, only to discover that I don't, but that that's possibly because my room (which isn't loud at all) is louder than the sound that people are complaining about. That's literally what I was told the other day when asked to record audio levels.
I read all the comments here which had me deathly afraid that I was taking a gamble, and might receive an annoyingly loud machine, only to realize that it isn't annoyingly loud at all.
Hence my previous comment, that people are either 1. overly sensitive to normal sounds and will never be happy, or 2. have a machine that has something seriously wrong with it, that the rest of us don't have, and you should absolutely return your broken machines to apple and request a refund/replacement.
If you explain to Apple that your machine is broken and not performing properly, they're likely going to want to see it to confirm if there's a problem or not. If they tell you that there isn't, then you either fall into the camp of someone who is overly sensitive to sound, unfortunately, or it's simply something that Apple doesn't consider to be a problem. If they tell you there is a problem, and you receive a newer machine that has the exact same problem, continue to return the machines until you get what you paid for. Like I said, you can work out with Apple that you don't return your existing machine to them until a new machine is ready to ship out to you. You can sometimes time this with a return on Friday, and a delivery on Monday to avoid being unable to work during the week.
A whine is a fault, I think most people here are in agreement about that.
Fan noise which is “too loud” or “not too loud/inaudible” is very subjective. I checked the specs and 25dB at idle is something I’m personally ok with, others might be not. Depends on individual sensitivity, hearing and background noise of the room.
Fan noise which is “too loud” or “not too loud/inaudible” is very subjective. I checked the specs and 25dB at idle is something I’m personally ok with, others might be not. Depends on individual sensitivity, hearing and background noise of the room.
You'd here it if your machine had it, even in a "noisy" room. Mine is too 40-45db all the time, air cleaner, vaporizer, tv, ac, you name it. My numbers are in this thread somewhere, but you'd have to read it all...
And like I said, congrats, you got a good one, be happy and don't think we're lying about it or being too picky, ok?
That's your problem.
And like I said, it sounds like you've received a faulty one, and that sucks. I feel for you. But I am still confused as to why you'd make excuses ("How long would I be without a machine?" and "What if the next one is just as bad or worse?") instead of alerting Apple to the fact that they sent you a faulty machine that you'd like replaced.
At this point it really seems like a problem of your own making, and anyone reading these comments should know that:
A. Many Mac Studios are in fact whisper quiet.
B. If yours is not, contact Apple for a replacement. This is not a problem anyone needs to live with.
^ the reason @bobcomer posts about this is that the problem is shared by others, some 37 macrumors members at latest count. A few of these had the problem with Apple’s replacement as well. This has led to discussion in an effort to share experiences, and speculate about causes and possible solutions. There is nothing remarkable about this. One might say it’s one of the ‘justifications’ for macrumors‘ existence
Look, computers are what I do for a living, and taking one like the Studio out impacts what I do. Stop trying to blame everything on me. And with that, I wont be seeing your messages anymore.
37 known instances with a total of 1571 posts in this thread!
thanks for the summary
thanks for the summary
Just ordered mine. Fingers crossed.
I'm on my 4th one alone after 3 returns so I would not assume a 37 known anything. And if implied 37 known instances out of 1571 post then apply the multiples of 10 +++ of the same effected people replying over and over. If that's the case is there really 1571 post or 70 members who create the 1571 posts? So if there were only 70 members replying, with 37 known instances, then that percentage of faulty Mac Studios just got really high really fast. Of course I'm just trying to suggest more Mac Studios would be effected than we think.37 known instances with a total of 1571 posts in this thread!
thanks for the summary