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Half-Life 2 working beautifully; Source multiplayer unplayable

Many people have brought up in this and other forums that Half-Life 2 runs beautifully (30-60 FPS) on a Macbook in single player with graphics turned up all the way except for anti-aliasing while Counter-Strike: Source is completely unplayable (2-9 FPS).

Also on this forum and others, people who have not tried playing Source multiplayer games respond saying, "Your hardware is not good enough." Please allow me to dispel this hypothesis in hopes of finding a solution.

First of all, I have seen videos and heard reports of users who can run Source fine on their Macbooks.

This problem has nothing to do with the MacBook not having enough RAM to run CS: Source. The same 2-9 FPS problem occurs in Half-Life 2: Deathmatch, which is almost the same game as HL2 single player. There is something else going on here.

There are also a couple of other odd things going on in these multiplayer games. Sometimes, when not much is on the screen, the FPS shoots up to over 100. Even stranger is that no matter how much you change the graphics settings (640x480 to 1280x800, low to high quality, various console command tweaks) there is virtually NO impact on the FPS!

Does anyone have any clue what would cause this kind of problem? It's driving me crazy that I can't play CS: Source and HL2 Deathmatch on a machine that, judging from HL2 single player, is obviously more than capable of handling it.

If no one has any ideas, perhaps someone could point me to a forum that deals with these kinds of issues?

Thanks so much for taking the time to read this and any help will be greatly appreciated!
 
Need help

I recently got a macbook with 2 gb of ram and i tried to play soldier of fortune II but it runs like crap its way to choppy to be enjoyable at all. I also have battlfield 1942 and it will run well but only if i lower the settings. Is there something i dont know about to help make the games run more smoothly? Is there anything i can do or do you just have any tips at all? Any help is appreciated thanks.
 
Hi everyone, I am currently buying a few bits and pieces for my new MacBook and on the list is a cheap, decent game to fill any spare hours I might have! I was thinking something along the lines of Age of Empires 2 or the original Sims collection - these should run OK on a 2.0GHz Core 2 Duo 2GB RAM MacBook yeah? At least I hope so :eek:

And also have I understood right that "Universal Binary" software is software that is optimised for use on Intel Macs?

Cheers for any help! :) I will add the performance of whichever game I buy to the thread :cool:
 
And also have I understood right that "Universal Binary" software is software that is optimised for use on Intel Macs?

UB software contains code for both PPC and Intel processors. On whichever Mac you open it, it selects which code to choose seeing what type of CPU Mac has.
 
Well I ended up buying Warcraft 3 and downloading the Intel patch - whacked all the settings on medium and it runs great! (This is on a Core2Duo 2.0 MacBook with 2GB RAM).
 
Hi everyone (1st post on these forums :))
I've enjoyed this thread so far and have been very pleased to see that the Macbook's performance can be so good in many games. I will soon be finishing school (=much more time on my hands!) and am thinking about getting a few new games then. However, I'm not sure which ones to get.

I have a black 2.0Ghz Core 2 Duo with 2GB of RAM. I have parallels installed and I also have a copy of Windows XP which I haven't installed yet. From the looks of this thread and others, should I invest in the new version of OSX (Leopard 10.5) since Bootcamp comes with it?

I am interested in running the following games, please help me figure out if they're playable and if so whether I should run them in OSX or Bootcamp
  • Civilization 4
  • Battlefield 2142 (or 1942)
  • Half Life 2
  • CS:Source
Thanks in advance :)
 
... new version of OSX (Panther 10.5) ...

I am interested in running the following games, please help me figure out if they're playable and if so whether I should run them in OSX or Bootcamp
  • Civilization 4
  • Battlefield 2142 (or 1942)
  • Half Life 2
  • CS:Source
Thanks in advance :)

Its Leopard 10.5. Panther was 10.3 :D

As for games, I'm afraid neither runs well on MacBook.
 
Hi everyone (1st post on these forums :))
I've enjoyed this thread so far and have been very pleased to see that the Macbook's performance can be so good in many games. I will soon be finishing school (=much more time on my hands!) and am thinking about getting a few new games then. However, I'm not sure which ones to get.

I have a black 2.0Ghz Core 2 Duo with 2GB of RAM. I have parallels installed and I also have a copy of Windows XP which I haven't installed yet. From the looks of this thread and others, should I invest in the new version of OSX (Panther 10.5) since Bootcamp comes with it?

I am interested in running the following games, please help me figure out if they're playable and if so whether I should run them in OSX or Bootcamp
  • Civilization 4
  • Battlefield 2142 (or 1942)
  • Half Life 2
  • CS:Source
Thanks in advance :)


I run civ4 and call of duty 2 comfortably on my powerbook
 
But what do you mean by neither? If Civ4 won't work then I guess I'll play Civ3

I mean that no game from your list runs smooth on a MacBook.

And if i'm not mistaken, all the games you mentioned have no Mac version, except for Battlefield 1942 & 2142, but I hear the 2142 is very buggy for OS X.
 
Hi everyone (1st post on these forums :))
I've enjoyed this thread so far and have been very pleased to see that the Macbook's performance can be so good in many games. I will soon be finishing school (=much more time on my hands!) and am thinking about getting a few new games then. However, I'm not sure which ones to get.

I have a black 2.0Ghz Core 2 Duo with 2GB of RAM. I have parallels installed and I also have a copy of Windows XP which I haven't installed yet. From the looks of this thread and others, should I invest in the new version of OSX (Leopard 10.5) since Bootcamp comes with it?

I am interested in running the following games, please help me figure out if they're playable and if so whether I should run them in OSX or Bootcamp
  • Civilization 4
  • Battlefield 2142 (or 1942)
  • Half Life 2
  • CS:Source
Thanks in advance :)

Well see if these vidz help http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SpSAf56v1S4 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SgRq_ddLJbs not sure if this in CS:S or w/e cuz i dont play CS http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HaQxyA3NI1Y but I'm sure this is Source http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RhFHMSZ4-8A . As for Civ4 and Battlefield I'm not sure they run on a Macbook. Hope those vidz help ;)

Oh and eXan, you're always commenting negative. You should never just say "it wont work" when people have already posted that HL2 runs(in campaign) so why write HL2 wont work? At least if you're going to tell someone it wont work show proof. But tbh most of those games wont run amazing! If you want to game the best way to go is a Macbook Pro, but for casual gaming the Macbook isn't "too" bad for most games. Just leave the games like Oblivion out of the question :p
 
Oh and eXan, you're always commenting negative. You should never just say "it wont work" when people have already posted that HL2 runs(in campaign) so why write HL2 wont work? At least if you're going to tell someone it wont work show proof. But tbh most of those games wont run amazing! If you want to game the best way to go is a Macbook Pro, but for casual gaming the Macbook isn't "too" bad for most games. Just leave the games like Oblivion out of the question :p

I have a MacBook myself and tried a lot of games on it and the performance is worse than most people think.

And I never said it wont work, just said those games wont run well, very often dropping to "unplayable" level.

Sometimes my replies seem very negative, but its better than somebody getting disappointed in his/her "new shiny Mac" after getting positive answers on these forums about gaming on MacBook. :)
 
Well see if these vidz help http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SpSAf56v1S4 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SgRq_ddLJbs not sure if this in CS:S or w/e cuz i dont play CS http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HaQxyA3NI1Y but I'm sure this is Source http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RhFHMSZ4-8A . As for Civ4 and Battlefield I'm not sure they run on a Macbook. Hope those vidz help ;)
OSX! I haven't touched windows in ages.
I mean that no game from your list runs smooth on a MacBook.

And if i'm not mistaken, all the games you mentioned have no Mac version, except for Battlefield 1942 & 2142, but I hear the 2142 is very buggy for OS X.

Thanks everyone, guess I'll look into 1942, CS:S and COD2.

PS: 'Neither' implies a choice between two possibilities, not four, which was why I got confused ;)
 
I just tried the COD2 demo in Leopard using an new updated MacBook (X3100) w/ 1GB Ram and it ran surprisingly well. I'm currently installing HL2 and CS:S on my Windoze side and I'll let you guys know how it runs.
 
I just tried the COD2 demo in Leopard using an new updated MacBook (X3100) w/ 1GB Ram and it ran surprisingly well. I'm currently installing HL2 and CS:S on my Windoze side and I'll let you guys know how it runs.

I subscribed to this thread so I could get your CS:S results.

I really want to be able to play it on my new macbook, but I'm expecting disappointment.
 
OK, CS:S totally sucks on the new MacBook with X1300, extremely laggy, just like the GMA 950.

HL2 won't even start! It freezes up on the "loading" screen. And on my third try, it suddenly rebooted my computer!

I'll keep trying. Maybe I'll reinstall.
 
OK, CS:S totally sucks on the new MacBook with X1300, extremely laggy, just like the GMA 950.

HL2 won't even start! It freezes up on the "loading" screen. And on my third try, it suddenly rebooted my computer!

I'll keep trying. Maybe I'll reinstall.

Dang. I guess I'll just play CS 1.6 whenever I get the urge to play. It's better than no gaming, which has been my situation for quite a while. Bummer.
 
hl2

i just started using bootcamp and i can get hl2 to start and run for a lil bit, but then it says it encountered an error and has to close. maybe an update is in order or something. anyways gonna try this and call of duty2 next/:D
 
i just started using bootcamp and i can get hl2 to start and run for a lil bit, but then it says it encountered an error and has to close. maybe an update is in order or something. anyways gonna try this and call of duty2 next/:D

are you running it on the GMA 950 graphics card or the new X3100?
 
Just wondering...

I have one of the newly-released MacBooks, a 2.2GHz white MB with 2GB of RAM. While I know/understand that it's not a true "Santa Rosa" chipset, it's based on that platform with the Intel X3100 graphics engine and 144MB of shared VRAM...so I'm curious...

I already own Battlefield 2 and Battlefield 2142 for the PC. I have VMWare Fusion installed already, and BF2142 wouldn't get past the opening-splash screen.

I have the latest Parallels available to me as well, I purchased 3.0 awhile ago for work...but thought I'd give Fusion a try. Anyone know if BF2142 or BF2 will work with the latest Parallels or Fusion beta?

Or is Boot Camp the only way?

I'm unclear as to whether these new MacBooks & their upgraded graphics capabilities can now handle Battlefield games in some fashion. Thanks for any help.
 
Games generally don't work well when run in a emulator.
Windows under VMware isn't using your graphics card, it's using VMware's graphics card (so to speak).
 
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