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peterlee0127

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Sep 25, 2018
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so while you are listening to itunes radio you go in system preferences and use system sound effects and you get cracks?

Similar. But usually with other apps. Like the email notification or other apps. (Not in system preferences and use system sound effects)

Mojave and 48Khz
 

fokmik

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Oct 28, 2016
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every time when you get mail notification while listening to music, you get those sound cracks?
i also did having this every time on High Sierra...since Mojave...almost never....i could replicate just once for now ...from almost 10-12 tryouts, and also, on itunes, i got everytime on High Sierra, when i was mute/unmute popping sound, since Mojave, this is gone too
I remain only with some pop up sound randomly when surface through timeline on youtube video
 

fokmik

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Not everytime. About 30% chance.
but still, on yours it keeps it for 3-4 seconds?
when on mine occurred last just 1 ms or something like that
[doublepost=1538064180][/doublepost]i think a clean/wipe out/erase hdd and reinstall Mojave maybe fix this
 

peterlee0127

macrumors newbie
Sep 25, 2018
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Taiwan
but still, on yours it keeps it for 3-4 seconds?
when on mine occurred last just 1 ms or something like that
[doublepost=1538064180][/doublepost]i think a clean/wipe out/erase hdd and reinstall Mojave maybe fix this

Yes, always about 3-5 seconds.

I hope next week the new one will fine.
 

dven

macrumors newbie
Sep 24, 2018
28
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I may have a bit more information.

I did what I should have done in the first place and created a new user account to test under. No glitches for external USB audio. So I switched back over to my usual account and disabled the following:

bluetooth
bluetooth PAN (networking)
iCloud

Still glitches. The I realized I was still running macs fan control. Turned it off. So far after an hour of running continuous audio, the *only* other glitch I've seen appears to be related to a SMCRTC (system management control real time clock).

So my theory is that the SMC controller (yeah related to the KPs some users have had) is still flaky) and that anything (ie macs fan control) that interacts with it aggravates the issue.
 

8SlaiN8

macrumors member
Sep 16, 2018
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I may have a bit more information.

I did what I should have done in the first place and created a new user account to test under. No glitches for external USB audio. So I switched back over to my usual account and disabled the following:

bluetooth
bluetooth PAN (networking)
iCloud

Still glitches. The I realized I was still running macs fan control. Turned it off. So far after an hour of running continuous audio, the *only* other glitch I've seen appears to be related to a SMCRTC (system management control real time clock).

So my theory is that the SMC controller (yeah related to the KPs some users have had) is still flaky) and that anything (ie macs fan control) that interacts with it aggravates the issue.

Just so you know, we don't have an SMC on our new T2 equipped macs, iMac pro don't have it either. T2 took it's functionality.
 

dven

macrumors newbie
Sep 24, 2018
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Just so you know, we don't have an SMC on our new T2 equipped macs, iMac pro don't have it either. T2 took it's functionality.
Yeah. What I should have said was "SMC related functions controlled by the T2 chip."
 

soiramk

macrumors member
Nov 17, 2008
65
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Greece
So, after all these 'discoveries' and foundlings mentioned here and elsewhere, do you have a definitely conclusion that sound/speakers related issues are software bugs and NOT a hardware issue (e.g. T2 hardware problem)?
 

Premal212

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Jan 26, 2017
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London UK
Sorry, how can it be inside T2 if T2 itself is an arm based processor? :D like A11

15inch MBP 32gb i7 512gb

Using a pair of Sony MDRs with the ACC codec and I'm still getting these issues when a notification comes up. I can replicate this when I'm in System Preferences and playing with the sounds.

Mojave didn't seem to fix this.
 

mdnz

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Apr 14, 2010
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The Netherlands
So, after all these 'discoveries' and foundlings mentioned here and elsewhere, do you have a definitely conclusion that sound/speakers related issues are software bugs and NOT a hardware issue (e.g. T2 hardware problem)?

The senior advisor I spoke to said it was a software issue and that it's a known problem. Engineering is apparently working on it but I don't want to wait for months possibly before those clowns fix it. And yes clowns, there's not really a different word to describe them looking at all the issues with the 2018 MBP.
 
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dven

macrumors newbie
Sep 24, 2018
28
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Related to USB audio issues...

I ran another hour plus test and the only time the error occurred again was right after/during a system clock sync event (timed is the daemon which in turn appears to be kicked off by dasd). The glitch sort of makes sense since I'm running off of the internal clock and if the sync adjusts the overall internal clock, perhaps its not gracefully syncing any real time audio clocks depending on it. But that's some wild speculation on my part!
 
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Specifically, the T2 doesn't include the traditional SMC, but it has taken over duties formerly performed by the SMC chip.

I shouldn’t have to keep explaining this. The T2, or just about any CPU/GPU/SOC these days, is a collection of units each with a dedicated function. The SMC is in the package and hasn’t been taken over by some other new something something. There is also an I/O controller, SSD controller, image processor, on-the-fly encryption unit, and Secure Enclave.

I saw a diagram of the layout last month but lost the link.
 

amok-san

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Mar 12, 2008
85
27
It appears that the controller-chip firmware that came with the 10.14.1 public beta
(16P51043b) solved all my audio related problems. Continuous audio stream without any dropouts or glitches through internal output and external DAC via usb.
Phew!

Edit: Sadly there are still dropouts over usb, but way less than before.
Makes me confident that the issue will be solved in the foreseeable future.
Still, customers shouldn't be beta testers.
 
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Premal212

macrumors regular
Jan 26, 2017
249
127
London UK
It appears that the controller-chip firmware that came with the 10.14.1 public beta
(16P51043b) solved all my audio related problems. Continuous audio stream without any dropouts or glitches through internal output and external DAC via usb.
Phew!

Edit: Sadly there are still dropouts over usb, but way less than before.
Makes me confident that the issue will be solved in the foreseeable future.
Still, customers shouldn't be beta testers.

My good friend, does this include bluetooth? My major problems are with bluetooth, potentially due to the ACC codec. Secondly, will this be the next patch hopefully next week etc.?
 

amok-san

macrumors member
Mar 12, 2008
85
27
My good friend, does this include bluetooth? My major problems are with bluetooth, potentially due to the ACC codec. Secondly, will this be the next patch hopefully next week etc.?
Sorry, can't tell you anything about bluetooth, I don't use it.
The official 10.14.1 release is probably still a couple of weeks away.
 
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8SlaiN8

macrumors member
Sep 16, 2018
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It appears that the controller-chip firmware that came with the 10.14.1 public beta
(16P51043b) solved all my audio related problems. Continuous audio stream without any dropouts or glitches through internal output and external DAC via usb.
Phew!

Edit: Sadly there are still dropouts over usb, but way less than before.
Makes me confident that the issue will be solved in the foreseeable future.
Still, customers shouldn't be beta testers.

A guy on gearslutz said that ableton is much less to be affected by that but I'm not an ableton user, and most recent logic pro 10.4.2 update brings up some good hope for us.
Though, on current release of mojave and LPX 10.4.2 drops are super super rare (atm producing for an hour, didn't noticed one so far)
 

mario.jr

macrumors member
Aug 4, 2010
50
3
Well...
I was just watching an interview on youtube, no boot camp.. plain High Sierra, and there was an awful sound, like the computer was struck by a lighting :( and my speakers now sound like an AM radio, Crackling like hell, no treble whatsoever, this is insane!!!
How can a 2 month computer, just blew its own speakers out of nowhere. This is a ridiculous nonsense..

Macbook Pro mid 2018
 

8SlaiN8

macrumors member
Sep 16, 2018
69
22
Well...
I was just watching an interview on youtube, no boot camp.. plain High Sierra, and there was an awful sound, like the computer was struck by a lighting :( and my speakers now sound like an AM radio, Crackling like hell, no treble whatsoever, this is insane!!!
How can a 2 month computer, just blew its own speakers out of nowhere. This is a ridiculous nonsense..

Macbook Pro mid 2018
let me guess, reboot or just simple restart of process "coreaudiod" through terminal help? =)
 
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