Macbook Pro 2019 Benchmarks and First Impressions! Post yours!

[hajime]

View attachment 838713
Not really....I didn't have keyboard issues with my 2017 MacBook Pro....my Cinebench score is 2930

Why the score is much higher than X1 Extreme (8870H CPU with 32GB RAM and Nvidia 1050 GPU, Samsung SSD)?

 

[kp98077]

Not getting as high as I thought Geekbench scores, what do you think? I have the 8 core, 512gb model... thought it should be more in the 31,000 range or am I mistaken?
Knew I shouldn't have bought this thing in Portland, OR (haha...j.k)

 

[Thysanoptera]

Why the score is much higher than X1 Extreme (8870H CPU with 32GB RAM and Nvidia 1050 GPU, Samsung SSD)?

a) 2 more cores
b) power limit 55W instead of 45W
c) factory undervolt

 

[RumorConsumer]

Not getting as high as I thought Geekbench scores, what do you think? I have the 8 core, 512gb model... thought it should be more in the 31,000 range or am I mistaken?
Knew I shouldn't have bought this thing in Portland, OR (haha...j.k)

For sure should be higher.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ions-post-yours.2182340/page-13#post-27456767

I hit 5947 and 31277. Same unit except I have 1TB but that shouldn't matter. Unless yours is space gray and then thats probably why.
[doublepost=1560574571][/doublepost]My favorite moment of ownership so far:

I am pushing this thing with folder compression. 10-15 folders at between 700mb-10gb of mail. Lots of files. Thing doesn't even break a sweat until I add maybe the 10th folder and then this:


Oh actually Finder was red and unresponsive and spinning beach ball with the fully scrollable rack of compression progress bars in its little cp window. Other apps and things are working fine... at like 1560% CPU. And Finder is red. So Im like ok this thing is locked up. Finder rarely recovers for me in moments like this. So I wait a few moments. The rest of the machine isn't locked up so maybe 5 seconds more... and then all the progress bars shoot to the end, the thing comes completely back to responsiveness, still full CPU utilization, and then the sound of the archive process completing - bong - bong- bong -bong - bong, it was incredible. Like a powerlifter stalling out at the top of a press and finding the will to push through. This is my favorite Mac (out of probably 20) Ive ever owned.

 

[hajime]

a) 2 more cores
b) power limit 55W instead of 45W
c) factory undervolt

Thanks. Can we undervolt MBP in Mac OS? I guess we can use ThrottleStop under Windows bootcamp?

 

[Thysanoptera]

Thanks. Can we undervolt MBP in Mac OS? I guess we can use ThrottleStop under Windows bootcamp?

Not on the T2 equipped ones, it is locked by Apple. Both in MacOS and Windows.

EDIT - actually it is locked on all 2015+ Macbooks.

 

[kp98077]

For sure should be higher.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ions-post-yours.2182340/page-13#post-27456767

I hit 5947 and 31277. Same unit except I have 1TB but that shouldn't matter. Unless yours is space gray and then thats probably why.
[doublepost=1560574571][/doublepost]My favorite moment of ownership so far:

I am pushing this thing with folder compression. 10-15 folders at between 700mb-10gb of mail. Lots of files. Thing doesn't even break a sweat until I add maybe the 10th folder and then this:
View attachment 842941

Oh actually Finder was red and unresponsive and spinning beach ball with the fully scrollable rack of compression progress bars in its little cp window. Other apps and things are working fine... at like 1560% CPU. And Finder is red. So Im like ok this thing is locked up. Finder rarely recovers for me in moments like this. So I wait a few moments. The rest of the machine isn't locked up so maybe 5 seconds more... and then all the progress bars shoot to the end, the thing comes completely back to responsiveness, still full CPU utilization, and then the sound of the archive process completing - bong - bong- bong -bong - bong, it was incredible. Like a powerlifter stalling out at the top of a press and finding the will to push through. This is my favorite Mac (out of probably 20) Ive ever owned.

Im telling you, must be because I got it in Potland ... lol... or the SP... wondering if wifi speeds have anything to do with it? it must... and mine is only 512gb.... wondering what others are seeing...

 

[hajime]

Not on the T2 equipped ones, it is locked by Apple. Both in MacOS and Windows.

EDIT - actually it is locked on all 2015+ Macbooks.

I hate the current Apple. Doing all sorts of things to inconvenience me and wasted few years of my time looking for the next laptop. First they removed Nvidia support. Then, butterfly keyboard and made it difficult to install Linux. Has anybody found a way to disable that T2 security thing?

 

[kp98077]

For sure should be higher.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ions-post-yours.2182340/page-13#post-27456767

I hit 5947 and 31277. Same unit except I have 1TB but that shouldn't matter. Unless yours is space gray and then thats probably why.
[doublepost=1560574571][/doublepost]My favorite moment of ownership so far:

I am pushing this thing with folder compression. 10-15 folders at between 700mb-10gb of mail. Lots of files. Thing doesn't even break a sweat until I add maybe the 10th folder and then this:
View attachment 842941

Oh actually Finder was red and unresponsive and spinning beach ball with the fully scrollable rack of compression progress bars in its little cp window. Other apps and things are working fine... at like 1560% CPU. And Finder is red. So Im like ok this thing is locked up. Finder rarely recovers for me in moments like this. So I wait a few moments. The rest of the machine isn't locked up so maybe 5 seconds more... and then all the progress bars shoot to the end, the thing comes completely back to responsiveness, still full CPU utilization, and then the sound of the archive process completing - bong - bong- bong -bong - bong, it was incredible. Like a powerlifter stalling out at the top of a press and finding the will to push through. This is my favorite Mac (out of probably 20) Ive ever owned.

Ran Cinebench and got the following
[doublepost=1560576201][/doublepost]I ran Cinebench and got 3035, a bit better.... I can probably live with this... thoughts let me know !

 

[Queen6]

Why the score is much higher than X1 Extreme (8870H CPU with 32GB RAM and Nvidia 1050 GPU, Samsung SSD)?

It's not 8750H is capable of much more if well setup, over 3K CB in R20. The 8 core i9 is more capable again, however it needs good cooling and power supply. In all fairness Apple's dong a decent job in such a thin chassis with a design first released with quad core CPU's in 2016.

Q-6

 

[RumorConsumer]

Ran Cinebench and got the following
[doublepost=1560576201][/doublepost]I ran Cinebench and got 3035, a bit better.... I can probably live with this... thoughts let me know !

Ambient temp has been a thing for me. My AC is powerful and responsive and within 10 minutes i can change the thermal properties of the room and literally watch it adjust.

 

[Thysanoptera]

Ran Cinebench and got the following

Can you make same screenshot as @RumorConsumer did on his 2.4 with iStatMenu showing all sensors and power gadget trends while running CB20? That 2.3 seems to consistently 10% slower than 2.4 and they really shouldn't if operating at the same voltage.

View attachment 842759

 

[hajime]

It's not 8750H is capable of much more if well setup, over 3K CB in R20. The 8 core i9 is more capable again, however it needs good cooling and power supply. In all fairness Apple's dong a decent job in such a thin chassis with a design first released with quad core CPU's in 2016.

Q-6

I was very surprised to see the fast processing of cinabench. None of the lenovo laptops I tried did like that. This includes the 8850H.

If I read correctly, notebookcheck mentioned that under Bootcamp Windows, MBP 2019 does not perform that well?

 

[maflynn]

Why the score is much higher than X1 Extreme (8870H CPU with 32GB RAM and Nvidia 1050 GPU, Samsung SSD)?

Apples and oranges, you're dealing with more cores and more power, i.e., i9 vs. i7
[doublepost=1560598875][/doublepost]

If I read correctly, notebookcheck mentioned that under Bootcamp Windows, MBP 2019 does not perform that well?

macOS is managing the undervolting, so going on a different OS will result in a hotter throttled experience. Battery life on the MBPs running windows is typically a lot worse as well

 

[hajime]

Apples and oranges, you're dealing with more cores and more power, i.e., i9 vs. i7
[doublepost=1560598875][/doublepost]
macOS is managing the undervolting, so going on a different OS will result in a hotter throttled experience. Battery life on the MBPs running windows is typically a lot worse as well

Thanks for the clarifications. So if I stay with Mac OS, I can get a quiet high performance letter with high res screen this time?

If I buy a MBP 2019 to run Windows (via bootcamp) and also run Linux as a virtual machine, which GPU an RAM size do you recommend?

 

[applesed]

My cinebench on the stock 8 core mbpro is 2580, on a dining room table, able 75F in here. Seems low comparatively to others. Thoughts?

 

[getheo]

My cinebench on the stock 8 core mbpro is 2580, on a dining room table, able 75F in here. Seems low comparatively to others. Thoughts?

Please run the cinebench with intel power gadget and upload a screenshot after the benchmark ends.

 

[Queen6]

I was very surprised to see the fast processing of cinabench. None of the lenovo laptops I tried did like that. This includes the 8850H.

If I read correctly, notebookcheck mentioned that under Bootcamp Windows, MBP 2019 does not perform that well?

8 cores versus 6 simple as that. The notebooks that allow the 8750H upwards to perform to higher levels have more advanced cooling systems and less locked down.

8750H

Apple looks to have undervolted macOS, and the CPU registers are locked making it pretty much impossible to do the same in W10, therefore Windows will be disadvantaged hitting the thermal ceiling much faster.

Q-6

 

[hajime]

8 cores versus 6 simple as that. The notebooks that allow the 8750H upwards to perform to higher levels have more advanced cooling systems and less locked down.

8750H
View attachment 842980

Apple looks to have undervolted macOS, and the CPU registers are locked making it pretty much impossible to do the same in W10, therefore Windows will be disadvantaged hitting the thermal ceiling much faster.

Q-6

Thanks for your info. My ex-X1E with 8870H is also slower than the MBP2019, I guess. Does GPU matter much for 2019 MBP? I remember that last year, the recommended model to get is the base 15" one.

I wonder how the X1 Extreme Gen 2 with the same i9 CPU will perform. On Lenovo website, there are many new "coming soon" X-series, T-series and P-series laptops but no definite date of release.

Not sure if it is true of not, he mentioned that MBP 2019 with Vega 20 GPU are nosier.

 

[applesed]

Please run the cinebench with intel power gadget and upload a screenshot after the benchmark ends.

here ya go

 

[Thysanoptera]

here ya go

You have something running in the background, that’s why your score is low. You can check in Activity monitor what is that.

 

[Queen6]

You have something running in the background, that’s why your score is low. You can check in Activity monitor what is that.

Looks that way as both temp & power are well under the limits.

Q-6

 

[applesed]

Looks that way as both temp & power are well under the limits.

Q-6

Doh, so ideal to run when otherwise idle, gotcha.

 

[drdaz]

You could certainly be right. I just assumed this kind of tech was available to license; others have done so before

When I wrote that I also assumed x86-64 was a 64 bit extension of x86. I checked and it's not; it's a 64 bit version of it.

So your idea makes sense. But they'd have to license x86-64 from AMD.
[doublepost=1560363681][/doublepost]

Well since you ask so nicely

View attachment 842498 View attachment 842499 View attachment 842500

So earlier this week when I saw i9 CB scores significantly over 3k, I decided I didn't care and that I was fine with my score; I spent 10 months with Apple Support battling with a 2018 model which has finally proven to be faulty hardware and I was just so happy to finally have a machine that didn't kick and scream.

Today I changed my mind and ran the benchmarks again, after a clean reboot.

I'm glad I did

 

[Queen6]

Doh, so ideal to run when otherwise idle, gotcha.

Yeah just restart it and leave it to idle for a while, you'll that the result will be a good deal higher in the region of 3K.

Q-6