On the 13 inch with external monitor/keyboard sure, you won't notice. On the 15 inch, the dGPU is always active, the thing is always hot, you can't control the fans which seem to have different curves than under MacOS - looks even less aggressive, that beautiful oversized touchpad becomes useless, registering clicks every time you touch it with your palm. I ended up disabling turbo boost by setting max cpu to 98% in power settings, disabled touchpad and using a mouse even on my lap, setting both fans to 4k rpm in MacOS and then rebooting to Windows - that makes them stay at last value. That would make it workable, but obviously at greatly reduced functionality. But I don't do it anymore, screw it, whatever I need I can do under VM. No bootcamp for me.
There are ways around this [disable the dGPU...], but yes I agree that bootcamp hasn’t been a great experience in the past on a MacBookpro. In this instance when using an egpu the MacBookpro wouldn’t be used like a laptop, so trackpad issues etc are not that relevant to me. On the imacpro however, it is great ! I was thinking to try and stay within macos this time and just accept the lower performance [I use the machines as an all rounder rather than VR all day long...]. If I was just doing VR all day I would simply buy a decent gaming desktop.
Regards comments on Razer. Their specs are very tempting and as others say, near perfect. It’s the support and lack of stores that are the hinderence to me - this machine needs to work and I much prefer dealing with people I know, in store [as I do here at my local apple store]. Support is important.
I currently have no complaints with the imac pro. A new MBP with I9 and a decent egpu shouldn’t be too disimilar really, and should give me what I need, so that is the direction I will go in.
An aside is the RTX quadro mobile cards coming out, niggling in the back of my mind............. tech decisions, always something new and better coming
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Ah, yes, the 1080 screen is kind of crap and is also significantly cheaper. But the 4K one is supposed to be a killer from what I've heard.
Oh, I've been always preaching that one has to use the tools that work for the specific purpose. The MBP is the best laptop on the market for me, given what I do. It might be less optimal for many others. I certainly don't have any issue with this. What I do have an issue with is when one starts distorting facts aka. "I can buy a much faster laptop for $500 LOL".
Yes and I 100% agree - use the right tool for the job. Thing is the tools you would think would be better, aren’t really when considering everything. The HP certainly wasn’t at the same level of specs as the new MBP but it is a lot cheaper and its performance was fine at testing. I can’t get over that screen though - I was amazed how poor it was for a workstation laptop that cost AU$4000 ! An I9 here comes with the same screen and is priced AU$6700 ..... more than than a maxed MBP 15”. I was testing the body, screen etc as much as the specs, to see what it could and couldn’t do.
I think it is best to buy what makes you happy, comfortable and is a joy to use. When considering these factors plus the ability to walk into a store and talk to people you have a relationship and interest with, Apple wins hands down. I love using macs and despite this, was tempted to go PC for several reasons. I will just work around these reasons, as the compromise isn’t enough.
