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i really hope they keep an option for LCD if this is the case 😭

switching to OLED would make it thinner by maybe 1mm, with a weight savings measured in grams, these don’t matter in a device that’s on your desk or lap

also the deep blacks of OLED mostly matter for use in pitch black darkness, like before bed and stuff. again that’s more the realm of iphone and ipad. i’ve never thought the blacks weren’t deep enough on my MBP or even my MBA

i’m usually all for thin and light when it comes to iPhone, but there’s no significant benefit here, only potential issues with burn-in. i don’t want to have to hide my dock and menu bar all the time, i enjoy looking at them, they’re part of why i like macOS. i will never, ever buy an OLED macbook, Apple
I doubt they will do that as the new design will be predicted on using the thinner OLED panel.
 
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There are many issues to deal with OLED tech. Even M4 iPad Pro with dual stack OLED is NOT yet proven worthy to replace professional monitors which is still LCD based. But of course, since micro-LED wont be available for another decade, OLED is the only option to replace LCD based displays or otherwise, you may need dual LCD which consumes a lot of power.

But other than that, there are few things that I can suggest:

1. Remove notch
2. Add more TB5 ports, keep HDMI port
3. Ultra chip option with bigger size
4. Up to 240W charging
5. Better display or OLED
6. More SSD and RAM at max
7. Lower upgrading fees
8. Improve trackpad functionality
9. More battery
10. FHD webcam + Face ID
11. New type of Apple Silicon chip such as 3D packaging
12. Built-in Modem

But overall, this generation of MBP is the best of the best except the notch.

I'm not sure about SD cards cause it no longer updating since UHS-II and they lose opportunities to make next gens by CFexpress Type A and B. They literally stop improving the performance for a while. Tho I still use SD cards, not really sure if we really need it or not.
No 1 on your list will be replaced with this:

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So they are saving on thermal paste, chips get hotter and want to go thinner.
 
Why can’t we get this in 2025. iPads got oled in early 2024, does it really take almost 3 years to just add it to Mac’s?
 
Why this obsession with thinner above all? With as few ports etc as possible?
I don't know, it feels like there are deeper issues here which manifest as this push for more and more thin and less and less...functional? I don't know. It feels weird.
MBPs have never been about "obsession with thinner above all" and I strongly doubt that Apple will go there with coming MBPs. Thinner, yes; and thinner/lighter is a good thing as long as performance, speakers, display, etc. are not degraded. Evolution of the M-series clearly suggests that Apple should be able to do it all and also make MBPs thinner/lighter.
 
I can't take it anymore... who keeps pushing this level of thinness at Apple?? Enough already, I don't give two SH!TS about thinness anymore. We've hit a great point, I don't need my device, which costs $2,000 to be so damn fragile. My god, I'm just done with Apple and this quest for everything to be as thin as a sheet of paper.
 
OLED display will be a nice change. Possible that many will be upgrading due to the new display.
 
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I just want the notch to disappear and yes Lighter is good coz my shoulder and back ache after a long day with the current heavy Macbook pro...
 
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Give me more power over thinner and lighter any day.

I'm not following this "thinner" line of thinking. MacBooks are already super thin for what they offer. Are people buying the Pro when all they really need is the Air, and then proceeding to want thinner and lighter anyway? Hello? The Air is your choice then. 🤗
 
OLED display will be a nice change. Possible that many will be upgrading due to the new display.

If OLED really is superior, it's surprising to me why it's taking Apple so long? If material cost is a factor, then adopting it will help to drive the cost down across the industry due to increased volume sales.

Maybe they were hoping to go from mini-LED to micro-LED, and that's failed to pan out?
 
If OLED really is superior, it's surprising to me why it's taking Apple so long? If material cost is a factor, then adopting it will help to drive the cost down across the industry due to increased volume sales.

Maybe they were hoping to go from mini-LED to micro-LED, and that's failed to pan out?
pretty sure they might go for tandem oled and thats why its taking a bit longer
 
gonna sell my m3 pro for this, or switch over to Lenovo/ Linux full time if Apple really goes back to prioritizing thinness.

i know ozempic is trending rn, but I don’t want an ozempic computer.
 
I can't take it anymore... who keeps pushing this level of thinness at Apple?? Enough already, I don't give two SH!TS about thinness anymore. We've hit a great point, I don't need my device, which costs $2,000 to be so damn fragile. My god, I'm just done with Apple and this quest for everything to be as thin as a sheet of paper.
Get a grip. MBPs are not fragile and never have been.
 
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Agree with the first part, for the second part… some people like more solid feeling objects, even computers, and are willing to pay more for that. See Leica, luxury car brands, good furniture, etc. The feeling of luxury is one of Apple’s key strengths, they need to keep that in mind.
Fully agree! However Apple is not acting in a vacuum. They have to consider the market trends, available materials and suppliers as well as the competition. The deeper you go into that "luxury niche", the smaller your target market. And reliance on an increasingly smaller number of potential customers can become dangerous.

So even the luxury feeling of Apple products is (and has to be) limited, which means that some compromises are inevitable.

The previous gen unibody MBP and MBA with tapered edges felt more solid, and it’s not like they weren’t already thin/light.
I can only compare a late 2013 15" MBP and an M3 Pro 16". If anything, the M3 seems a tad more solid than the old one. Especially the keyboard seems to contribute to that impression. I liked the tapered design especially on the old MBA's, but I understand that it brings some additional effort (cost!), when you e.g. have to place terraced batteries inside.

As written above - Apple needs to stay connected to some standards, suppliers and materials for various reasons. They are not set up to produce tiny numbers of products manufacture-style, where you can mostly ignore costs, while serving a (super) luxury niche.

These get used on a desk or on your lap, saving those last few grams doesn’t matter enough if it affects the structural integrity or makes them feel cheaper (or in the case of OLED, risks burn in) 🙅🏼‍♀️
So far the reduction in weight and thickness because of using OLED panels is a rumor. If weight and thickness are reduced without affecting the structural integrity, I think most would accept and welcome that.

However, while pursuing that path, errors happen - even with Apple. Remember e.g. the iPhone "bendgates". But because of the latter, I would expect Apple having learned about that and designing a thinner lid or device in a way that structural integrity stays the same - or maybe even improves, if the changes allow for a general redesign.

If you want to change existing products, you are facing costs for re-tooling, tests etc. But if you go for a new product anyway, there is little _added_ cost for a structural redesign, as it's part of the routine anyway.

As for OLED screens: Yes, the danger of burn-in is real. I think that Apple's engineers are aware of that. So imho either they do know of technological advances in (OLED) screen technology that would reduce / minimize that risk even for mostly static content (as it's usual for a computer screen). Or they are faced with external constraints, pushing them towards OLED:

For example, the luxury feel you mentioned. This leads to Apple customers expecting high end tech from Apple. How often are the forums filled with complaints that competitor X has introduced a technology Y and Apple did not. They would be accused of dragging their feet, while still charging premium prices.

OLED seems to be the new fad in display technology. Well, maybe not even a fad - its advantages are for real and clearly visible. When I compare my OLED TV with the Mini-LED screen on my iPad, the iPad clearly loses. The difference is so obvious, it's not even funny anymore.

Thus going OLED in a future MBP is required, as Apple promotes the MBP as video machine more than anything else. And the research on Micro LED did not progress as Apple had expected. Therefore they now need to embrace OLED - despite all of its shortcoming - until something better is available.

I’m all for thin and light where it provides an improved experience, eg iPhone/iPad, where you’re holding them. Nobody’s going to notice that their MBP is 30g lighter, but they’ll notice the burn-in from the dock if they don’t hide it
Well - see my satirical post higher above. Even pro users welcome improvements in terms of e.g. weight. I still remember the outcry when Apple introduced the Unibody design, because they left out the Ethernet port. But the advantages of the Unibody case were tangible in comparison to the older gen MBP's / Powerbooks.

Material savings and less packaging volume and weight due to an even thinner MBP should lead to cost savings for Apple, which might be required to counter the increased cost for going OLED.

As written above, Apple is not acting in a vacuum, so maybe there are forced to go OLED and now have to find ways to make the best of the situation and try to keep impact on cost and customers as low as possible.

Guess it wouldn't be too far-fetched to consider the coming OLED generation of MBP's like a typical first gen Apple product, which still has some kinks that need ironing out in further revisions.
 
I can't take it anymore... who keeps pushing this level of thinness at Apple?? Enough already, I don't give two SH!TS about thinness anymore. We've hit a great point, I don't need my device, which costs $2,000 to be so damn fragile. My god, I'm just done with Apple and this quest for everything to be as thin as a sheet of paper.
Bye bye and good luck with other manufacturers.
 
I'm not following this "thinner" line of thinking. MacBooks are already super thin for what they offer. Are people buying the Pro when all they really need is the Air, and then proceeding to want thinner and lighter anyway? Hello? The Air is your choice then. 🤗
If the Air would offer a similar quality of display and speaker, I would happily go that route. Unfortunately that isn't the case.
 
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Agree with the first part, for the second part… some people like more solid feeling objects,

There are studies on this. Just about everyone prefers more solid feeling objects. People associate weight with quality regardless of if the weight is doing anything or not.

That heuristic often works. Objects with less heft tend to be less durable, but it's also too easy to make the mistake of assuming that light always means lower quality.

I thought the original 13" M1 MBP was an amazing laptop despite its thinness. It made me wonder if the original plan was to have Silicon chips in the 2016 tbMBP re-design, but they just couldn't pull it off and settled for Plan B with burning hot Intel chips that overpowered the thermal capacity of the laptops and may have affected the mechanics of the butterfly keyboards.
 
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