macOS 10.14 Mojave on Unsupported Macs Thread

[TimothyR734]

Do you think I don't know that? I've been following this thread for 75 pages, and have been an active member, just like you. I, along with others, have had issues recently with APFS on HDDs, so I was just informing them that that could be the problem. I was the one that showed proof that HFS+ was the cause of not being able to update natively and you need to convert to APFS! I know you are trying to help, but there isn't a need to tell regulars what they have read many times in recent pages.

some newbies do not read all the pages or at least the op the jumped to the last page like I did with High Sierra and asked questions that were asked a thousand times but I went a read every page

 

[pkouame]

Thought about it as well and went for a small nMP 4C with the D500 which I upgraded to 2TB SSD, 32GB RAM and 10C CPU instead. A lot of moaning about these machines is out there as well but i work in audio production and for that the machine works quite well (Silent!). Since I bought it really cheap and did all the upgrades myself I didn't pay that much.

I also have a cMP 5,1 in the studio which I use for work but the lack of TB (a lot of good audio gear comes with TB) always bugged me. At least USB 3.1 gen. 2 works pretty good.

Always liked the portability of an nMP. Almost springed for one. There was too much moaning about it! In fact I think that factored heavily in Apple's growing distaste for the entire line. For media pros like you (especially audio) it was the perfect machine. The tower ventilation design was cool, effective and fit the bill if you didn't need too much expandability. But those pictures of spaghetti around mountains of raid arrays and external pcie chassis doomed the entire line. Unfortunate. From a fluid mechanics point of view, channeling heat UP was brilliant and I think still has its place...

 

[thegurgz]

some newbies do not read all the pages or at least the op the jumped to the last page like I did with High Sierra and asked questions that were asked a thousand times but I went a read every page

I understand, but there's no need to answer regulars with answers they have discussed and definitely know, especially if they aren't asking a question and trying to help someone else. If "newbies" have questions then they will ask, just like you did. There is no problem with someone re-asking questions since there are 237 pages of information that most will probably not go back and read.

 

[kagg2-12]

I have a MacBook Pro early 2011 13" 8,2 2.3GHz /16GB ram/ Intel HD 3000 1024GB and have successfully installed Mojave public beta 7, 10.14 Beta (18A371a). I installed the nighshift patch, Intel HD300 VRAM patch and Continuity Activation Tool. Almost everything is working well, with the exception of Continuity camera, and the GeekBench 4 bench test have been increasing with each beta release. Handoff works with Airdrop and calls. Does anyone know how to get the continuity camera and watch unlock features to work?

 

[saudor]

Watch unlock requires a wireless AC chip as far as i can remember

 

[TimothyR734]

I understand, but there's no need to answer regulars with answers they have discussed and definitely know, especially if they aren't asking a question and trying to help someone else. If "newbies" have questions then they will ask, just like you did. There is no problem with someone re-asking questions since there are 237 pages of information that most will probably not go back and read.

I know but I was trying to be helpful thank goodness be cause I could have to a whole page answering the question what that got me suspened

 

[Badruzeus]

Macintosh HD is the default name of the system partition. I use it even on my Hackintosh. Clover checks for default for a portion called MacHHD, to set it as automatic boot. The Tonymacx86 edit of Clover checks for the partition it is installed on, to get automatic boot.

This doesn't make any sense. On GPT, Bootloader uses Volume's UUID instead of it's Name (or Title), then it pointing "boot.efi" path on it tobe loaded. Simple workarround is, just rename your post-installed MainSystem Volume's Name to whatever you want, reboot and test if it won't boot anymore. As same as on macOS pre-install, user are free to choose whatever Name for Target Install Partition, within Disk Utility.

Spoiler

Plz re-check your "boot logs" //Terminal: $ `bdmesg`, and FYi.. again, discussing about Clover here (macOS on unsupported -real- macs) is #OffTopic I guess, or even confusing ppl. Though, you can still learn from it.. at least, take a look here and find which part said that "Macintosh HD or MacHDD" for partition name are should to be used? rEFIt (now rEFInd) for real macs is similar, bcoz Clover is based on it. And if you're Clover user, just install official version from SourceForge.

 

[thegurgz]

I have been researching SSDs for my MBP 5,5, and I think I have selected the one I should get. Since most new SSDs are 7mm instead of 9.5mm, which is the size my MBP requires, the selection was limited. I am considering an OWC Mercury Electra 3g SSD, but I am open to suggestions. It runs around $65, right around my price range. Thanks!

Also, I know the 7mm-9.5mm adapter is only around $5, so would that be a viable option or would the new versions not work with my old MBP?

 

[nekton1]

No, No, No—stay away from OWC; they have had serious SSD firmware problems that prevented High Sierra and Mojave installs. It might be OK now but why chance it? Also their service was less than stellar (slow to admit problem and no unit exchanges when problem understood) when the firmware issue was discovered and it took months to get a fix.
Get Samsung or Crucial and use the thickness adapter that ships with some models.

 

[thegurgz]

No, No, No—stay away from OWC; they have had serious SSD firmware problems that prevented High Sierra and Mojave installs. It might be OK now but why chance it? Also their service was less than stellar (slow to admit problem and no unit exchanges when problem understood) when the firmware issue was discovered and it took months to get a fix.
Get Samsung or Crucial and use the thickness adapter that ships with some models.

I researched this firmware issue, and it only applies to OWC Aura SSDs. I would not consider any product that has a faulty past. The Electra seems to not have any issues from what I have read.

 

[TimothyR734]

I wonder if it is possible to create a transparency app to adjust the transparency in Mojave I remember back in the days of Panther/Lion you could use a app called setalphavalue

 

[pkouame]

No, No, No—stay away from OWC; they have had serious SSD firmware problems that prevented High Sierra and Mojave installs. It might be OK now but why chance it? Also their service was less than stellar (slow to admit problem and no unit exchanges when problem understood) when the firmware issue was discovered and it took months to get a fix.
Get Samsung or Crucial and use the thickness adapter that ships with some models.

I have an old Samsung 850 EVO 250GB in my mbp5.3. Been chugging along for over 4 years now and no APFS related problems.

 

[visberry]

UPDATE ON MENU BAR: A few weeks back, I posted an image of a broken Menu Bar on MacBook Pro (mid 2012) I submitted a Radar (Bug Report) and received a response.

I will update the radar with a sysdiagnose, if that helps.

 

[pkouame]

UPDATE ON MENU BAR: A few weeks back, I posted an image of a broken Menu Bar on MacBook Pro (mid 2012) I submitted a Radar (Bug Report) and received a response.

I will update the radar with a sysdiagnose, if that helps.

Been a few days since I opened my radar with pics of the glitches. They are still "working" on it...

 

[jackluke]

UPDATE ON MENU BAR: A few weeks back, I posted an image of a broken Menu Bar on MacBook Pro (mid 2012) I submitted a Radar (Bug Report) and received a response.

I will update the radar with a sysdiagnose, if that helps.

Been a few days since I opened my radar with pics of the glitches. They are still "working" on it...

Good job! If anything ask them if before GM could be possible making a clearer and brighter translucent Finder menu bar for the Mojave "light mode" as it was in High Sierra.

 

[ASentientBot]

Maybe try smc bypass ? hold power button 10 seconds, put in charger, release power button. Fans running high could be smc issue, so I think its worth trying.

Also if the efi chip wasn't recognised properly when you flashed it, then maybe the backup that was taken is corrupt ?

Curious about "SMC bypass" as opposed to "SMC reset", is there a difference?
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Here's a grim prediction about macOS 10.15, macOS updates, macOS installers, and macOS patchers. Next year, when Apple introduces macOS 10.15, the following things relating to macOS updates, macOS installers, and macOS patchers will have changed:

• There will no longer be downloadable macOS installers
• There will no longer be macOS installer partitions
• There will no longer be downloadable macOS updates
• All updates will be done from System Preferences
• All reinstalls will be done from macOS Recovery or macOS Internet Recovery

The removal of access to the macOS installation and update files will make macOS patching much more complicated if not impossible. If someone has any thoughts on this, reply to this post. Remember, this is just my prediction but with updates in macOS 10.14 being in System Preferences and downloadable installers no longer being available on the 10.14 App Store, this looks like it's an unavoidable future. (Mention me in replies.)

I don't see any reason for all this doom and gloom. I'm sure you watched the keynote at WWDC. With "will we merge iOS and macOS" and that huge "NO" filling the screen. Apple knows we don't want a 100% locked down OS. We need to install drivers, image the OS onto multiple computers (as in school or enterprise settings), make bootable installers, and install on a computer with no internet access. Those things aren't going away. Probably not ever.

As for the downloadable installers, we've sorted that one out already
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No, No, No—stay away from OWC; they have had serious SSD firmware problems that prevented High Sierra and Mojave installs. It might be OK now but why chance it? Also their service was less than stellar (slow to admit problem and no unit exchanges when problem understood) when the firmware issue was discovered and it took months to get a fix.
Get Samsung or Crucial and use the thickness adapter that ships with some models.

I'm using a "Mercury Electra 3G" in my MacBook7,1 with zero issues.

 

[Olivia88]

Curious about "SMC bypass" as opposed to "SMC reset", is there a difference?

Smc reset just resets the smc which will fix things such as hangups etc. and the smc will run normally afterwards.

Smc bypass disables the smc functions such as battery management, fan control, and other sensor management. I'm not sure if it completely disables the smc, but at least part of it is.
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I don't see any reason for all this doom and gloom. I'm sure you watched the keynote at WWDC. With "will we merge iOS and macOS" and that huge "NO" filling the screen. Apple knows we don't want a 100% locked down OS. We need to install drivers, image the OS onto multiple computers (as in school or enterprise settings), make bootable installers, and install on a computer with no internet access. Those things aren't going away. Probably not ever.

As for the downloadable installers, we've sorted that one out already

Apple sold the 2012 13" mbp until late 2016. They can't just stop supporting that in any near future I think, which could extend the possibilities of using unsupported Macs for longer

 

[0403979]

Curious about "SMC bypass" as opposed to "SMC reset", is there a difference?
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I don't see any reason for all this doom and gloom. I'm sure you watched the keynote at WWDC. With "will we merge iOS and macOS" and that huge "NO" filling the screen. Apple knows we don't want a 100% locked down OS. We need to install drivers, image the OS onto multiple computers (as in school or enterprise settings), make bootable installers, and install on a computer with no internet access. Those things aren't going away. Probably not ever.

As for the downloadable installers, we've sorted that one out already
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I'm using a "Mercury Electra 3G" in my MacBook7,1 with zero issues.

It doesn’t seem very Apple like to listen to customers.

 

[flygbuss]

Always liked the portability of an nMP. Almost springed for one. There was too much moaning about it! In fact I think that factored heavily in Apple's growing distaste for the entire line. For media pros like you (especially audio) it was the perfect machine. The tower ventilation design was cool, effective and fit the bill if you didn't need too much expandability. But those pictures of spaghetti around mountains of raid arrays and external pcie chassis doomed the entire line. Unfortunate. From a fluid mechanics point of view, channeling heat UP was brilliant and I think still has its place...

Exactly! It was just too much design and not enough functionality. But like you said for a desktop it’s really portable and silent, even under load.
And in studios we love to put things in racks. There is a lot of accessories from Sonnet and other companies out there which you can rackmount. So a clean setup is possible.
But I do see the flaws and totally understand people disliking the machine. Though I think some of the moaning is just hear say and or retold stories from people who actually never owned a nMP.

Oh and btw. Before the nMP came out in 2013 a lot of people in the pro community felt left out already, saying there will never be any pro modell again, it’s just gonna be iPhones.
I totally agree with ASentientBot, Apple still cares about macOS even if that’s not their main goal anymore.

Another question: is there any common Software out yet that supports Mojaves dark mode?

 

[Larsvonhier]

It doesn’t seem very Apple like to listen to customers.

oh, c´mon

 

[webg3]

I just came to thank you for your excellent work. I made my contributions (my two cents, as is the saying) in a few pages ago. At the moment I am not working, therefore I can not contribute financially, but I appreciate and thank you very much for the excellent work, I will not mention names to not disparage anyone, I know that everyone here contributes the best possible way, be it with questions or answers, each one is important, do not feel smaller or insignificant, each of them is very important for the development and resolution of problems encountered by all. Thanks to people like you, today I can use my MacBook Pro 2010 13", even with the "reduce transparency" (this really works very well), since it is a device that has passed the 8 years, it is really amazing that it still works after of all this time. Thank you, that's all.

 

[greymda]

THANK YOU!

only issue: yes, "a weird darkish grey Menu Bar and Finder sidebar when using the light theme". any thoughts how this can be solved?

 

[webg3]

THANK YOU!

only issue: yes, "a weird darkish grey Menu Bar and Finder sidebar when using the light theme". any thoughts how this can be solved?

"reduce transparency" (this really works very well)

 

[pkouame]

I just came to thank you for your excellent work. I made my contributions (my two cents, as is the saying) in a few pages ago. At the moment I am not working, therefore I can not contribute financially, but I appreciate and thank you very much for the excellent work, I will not mention names to not disparage anyone, I know that everyone here contributes the best possible way, be it with questions or answers, each one is important, do not feel smaller or insignificant, each of them is very important for the development and resolution of problems encountered by all. Thanks to people like you, today I can use my MacBook Pro 2010 13", even with the "reduce transparency" (this really works very well), since it is a device that has passed the 8 years, it is really amazing that it still works after of all this time. Thank you, that's all.

Indeed!

 

[Brale]

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