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macOS 10.14 Mojave on Unsupported Macs Thread
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If requiring a metal-compatible GPU is the main roadblock to running Mojave, might adding a graphics card that met the spec on a Mac Pro 4,1 work?
Because I’m tired of seeing the same questions over and over again, refer to the OP! It’s being updated so if your Mac mini 2009 can get 10.14, it’ll be there!
In the mean time here’s a fun meme
https://twitter.com/jonyiveparody/status/1006676875962396673?s=21
In the mean time here’s a fun meme
https://twitter.com/jonyiveparody/status/1006676875962396673?s=21
If it's Metal-capable. For example, Intel HD 3000 is not Metal-capable, but Intel HD 4000 and newer are.
Your iMac is not on the list of officially supported Macs. In case of the iMac, you'll need a mid-2012 or newer.
In theory, yes. The thing is, Apple often/most of the time does not do a feature/capability check, but rather a model identifier check, to determine if a machine meets the requirements. They make all the Macs in their lineup, so they know which ones had which hardware inside. In other words, it won't matter that you put a newer hardware in your Mac – they'll check your model identifier and see if that particular Mac had a Metal-capable GPU in it whey they released it. If not - no bueno. So you'll probably have to also disable the model identifier compatibility check or "present" your Mac as a different model. It's the same situation like with the Handoff/Continuity thing; you only needed a BT LE/BT 4.0 for those features to work, but just replacing your BT chip was not enough for many models, you had to "patch" some stuff also (that's why the Continuity Activation Tool was created).
But in your case — a 4,1 Mac Pro — it's just like @tsialex said below: apart from upgrading the GPU, you'll just need to upgrade your firmware to 5,1, since 5,1 Mac Pros will officially support Mojave.
You will need a Metal compatible GPU and to install the 5,1 firmware, it will run without any hacks. If you don't yet have a Metal compatible GPU, wait until Apple release what are the requirements on the 2010/2012 Mac Pros before you buy a new GPU.
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I just want to report that the fix for the Atheros card is to take AirPortAtheros40.kext in the plugins of the macOS High Sierra 10.13.5 kext /System/Libray/Extensions/IO80211Family.kext and install it in Library / Extensions
Works good here
Works good here
has anyone got it to run on a MacBook Pro early 2011? I can't get past "this version cannot be installed on this computer"
and if Im booting using a usb I get the stopsign.
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how did you install it? usb or straight from your other os? Ive tried usb (Got the "stopsign") and with the beta app, getting the message "this version cannot be installed on this computer" or something like that...
and if Im booting using a usb I get the stopsign.
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how did you install it? usb or straight from your other os? Ive tried usb (Got the "stopsign") and with the beta app, getting the message "this version cannot be installed on this computer" or something like that...
I used a supported system to install, modified the install slightly, and booted that drive on my 2011. It's not recommended to do right now, though, as it runs like absolute garbage without graphics acceleration.
For what it’s worth, i’ve been able to use the Mac Pro 4,1 patches on a Mac Pro 3,1 to boot up 10.13.5. The one thing lost seemed to be the ability to run software updates as it would not find them as far as I could tell.
That said, was wondering if we could use less patches to get Mojave at least to boot on the 2008 Mac Pro.
I’ve also be able to clone 10.13.5 to a new disk without reapplying patches.
I am running all the patches now on 3,1 excerpt for the AMD Radeon 7xxx as I switched to NVIDiA GTX Titan X maxwell video to get Metal working 100%. My AMD would not run Metal or openCL properly.
I have both AMD and NVIDiA cards around for testing.
For my Radeon 7xxx Card, I only use the X4000 AMD Patches kext that dosdude1 provided. The other kexts causes red artifacts.
When I have time, i’ll Try my hand at getting Mojave running on a Mac Pro. I used to have several hackintoshes about a decade ago and being that Mojave is already running on a core 2 duo hackintosh, seems it might within reach.
Hi there, I understand that some of you guys don't like answering old questions, but this forum is veryyyyy long, so what happened? Are we able to run MacOS Mojave on non-metal Macs (2008 iMac)? DosDude if your reading this did you get a patcher up and running? I understand that there is no hardware acceleration, but anything works. Thanks for all you guys do for the community!
If they get it running sanely on those Macs, it’ll be updated on the first post.
First of all, Its 'Thread', not 'Forum' and yeah it is long. And for you and all other questionings' like "Will their machines work?" and ...etc You can always see the first page of this thread to see the updates and recent developments. OP's here keep that page updated....so you can always refer to that.
It's DP1. And it's still DP1. You might want to ask that question when Mojave is ready for primetime. There is no point busting a gut in trying to get a developer build bogged down with debug code and a moving codebase up and running when you cannot even be bothered to read the OP.
Anything people have sussed out now might be wiped out if Apple makes significant changes to the codebase in future updates. It wouldn't be the first time Apple raised hopes in early developer builds only to dash them in later betas.
Hello everyone,
I was unaware this thread existed until today. I installed a GTX 780m into my 2011 27 inch iMac in anticipation that 6970m wouldn't be supported in Mojave. I have booted Mojave with the GTX 780m installed, everything graphics related is functional. There is no audio natively or Airport without modifying kexts. I used AppleHDA and IO80211Family from 10.13.5. As usual there is no Backlight control or EFI boot screen.However doing this upgrade allows this iMac to drive a 4k display over one of the functional Thunderbolt ports.
I was unaware this thread existed until today. I installed a GTX 780m into my 2011 27 inch iMac in anticipation that 6970m wouldn't be supported in Mojave. I have booted Mojave with the GTX 780m installed, everything graphics related is functional. There is no audio natively or Airport without modifying kexts. I used AppleHDA and IO80211Family from 10.13.5. As usual there is no Backlight control or EFI boot screen.However doing this upgrade allows this iMac to drive a 4k display over one of the functional Thunderbolt ports.
Now that is genuinely interesting as I have that iMac but sinking £200 into a £600 computer with no brightness control gives pause for thought. Might be worth a punt if anyone can work out how to flash an EFI onto the card.
Yes, MacVidCards has been talking about MXM EFI cards for iMac on his Blog since last June. If such a feat was accomplished I would instantly buy/send away an MXM card for EFI features. The Sandy Bridge 2600 in this iMac still performs well today, and this chassis is great to work on compared to 5k iMacs.
Have you tried via Terminal to update?
You can run this command
sudo softwareupdate --background-critical
You need to let it for a while to do the thing (I let it 20 minutes). It automatically installs XProtect, Gatekeeper and stuff and brings a notification on App Store for system updates. Perhaps, if you check to install all updates automatically on System Proprieties, the command shall install all available updates. I hope it will not screw the OS, although it seems very unlikely.
Just out of interest, is your card from the plethora of Alienware cards I see dotted around eBay?
Yes mine apparently came from an Alienware 18. Anything dell is usually what you want because it lines up with the display mapping of the iMac.
Yup, thankfully this time the old kexts do work. That shows that there probably are less API incompatibilities from high sierra --> mojave than when we tried the old broadcom cards (bcm4321, AppleAirportBcm43224.kext) from el capitan --> sierra (didn't work)
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Now that is seriously cool! The thunderbolt chip in that machine supports DP 1.2? Amazing! Hope for the EFI flash development soon!
Firstly system updates for mojave won’t be via mac app store anymore. Mojave now has its own system preference pane for system updates.
Secondly, if successful your command will not update xprotect for mojave until xprotect itself is updated because mojave beta 1 already comes with xprotect version 2099 which is the latest version.
It might however update gatekeeper because so far mojave comes with gatekeeper version 94 which is a bit weird because the latest version is 140.
On the other hand if the terminal method doesn’t work and if your xprotect is a lower build than 2099 you can get the latest version here: http://swcdn.apple.com/content/down...ugaphfx5iutbek52z/XProtectPlistConfigData.pkg to install manually instead.
Likewise for gatekeeper 140 which you can get here:
http://swcdn.apple.com/content/down...yy2lsaxrveryeevomjcu/GatekeeperConfigData.pkg
I would however recommend checking your version of xprotect and gatekeeper with these commands in terminal first:
/usr/libexec/PlistBuddy -c "Print CFBundleShortVersionString" /System/Library/CoreServices/XProtect.bundle/Contents/Info.plist
/usr/libexec/PlistBuddy -c "Print CFBundleShortVersionString" /private/var/db/gkopaque.bundle/Contents/Info.plist
This is particularly relevent to those who have a clean install of mojave (not necessarily an upgrade) because gatekeeper in mojave is a very outdated version 94 for some strange reason.
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No I haven’t. I just noticed that dosdude1’s 4,1 only patches are enough to boot 10.13.5 on a 3,1 machine. What i’ve Done thus far is run his other patches for 3,1 later after installing Nvidia’s video updates. NVIDiA is awesome when it comes to supporting their drivers on Mac Pro systems.
I’m curious if the same Approach may work with Mojave. Finding the lowest common demonitor. I am sure it’s more than that, but will try taking my 2012 Mac mini install, clone it, and see if some patches for 10.13.5 will work. 10.13.6 is also due out soon and some of it may help.
High Sierra after some tweaks to my SSD and HDs installs runs better than any Mac i’ve Ever used. Mac Pro are so versatile that I am selling off one of my Mac Mini’s. I have native 4k @ 60 Hz with retina scaling right out of the box. My supporter mini can’t do that and is hampered to just full res and half res at 4k. No scaling.
The good news is that Apple this time around is NOT requiring That Thunderbolt motherboards. If they ever do that, it will be very hard to support the old systems. Mojave here we go!
