I haven't converted my hard drive to APFS on my 08 Aluminium MacBook (It's a moving drive, not SSD) can I install Mojave on here without problems? Or do I need to convert to APFS?
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macOS 10.14 Mojave on Unsupported Macs Thread
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Installation on HFS+ works fine with the exception that you won't be able to use Software Update to install point releases. Instead, you'll have to create a new usb patched installer using Mojave Patcher and the matching full installer for that Mojave point release and use that to install with.
So I can install the Mojave beta as it is right now, but won't be able to install 10.14.1 or 10.14.2, etc... without updating the version on the installer?
SATA II SSD if just want 3 Gb/s. SATA III if you will be upgrading your Mac to lets say a Mac mini 2012 which has SATA III.
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You can click on Version 10.14 and it will show the build # under about this Mac.
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Use 'sudo trimforce enable' to turn on trim on third party SSD. Only Apple Branded SSDs come with trim auto enabled. Many Apple SSDs are Samsung brand (for SATA II/III that is) and they are usually Dark color in nature. I don't know what Apple uses for PCIe in 2016/2018 Laptops. This does not mean that Samsung Retail SSDs have trim, but more than likely those may "fit" Apple's specs. Crucial is another good brand. Sandisk too.
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Yes, the Software Update functionality in Mojave is restricted to APFS volumes since Apple assumes are system disks are off of HFS+.
Yeah, just a couple weeks ago, I was like, I dunno if I'll have Metal on this thing and might have to get something newer or wait for Web drivers. And when I accidentally ordered the original Titan, it just happened to be a Kepler PC Card and just happened to work with Apple's Mojave drivers. I am pretty excited about that even if I only have 2.5GT/s at the moment.Everyone deserves the prize this was a tough OS to crack with all the roadblocks in the way on the 1st beta Kudo's to everyone
Getting ready to put Mojave (same build) on my Mac mini 2012 Quad Core 2.6 Ghz i7 and gonna do some benchmarks between my 2008 Mac Pro and my 2012 Mac mini. See who wins.
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Does anyone know if it checks your system # when it updates? For instance does it block a Mac Pro 3,1?
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Reinstall is easiest. Sometimes you can clone from HFS+ to APFS volume using Carbon Copy Cloner. Sometimes it may complain about Bless not working, other times like second time, it will bless fine.
for Mac Pro 3,1 there is a firmware updater. Dosdudes1 updater also have a software patch for APFS. See FP.
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The rumored GM Candidate is pretty darn solid.
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Many times betas can no longer be updated, but this time Apple released a version without beta written on it, so it may be updatable. We will see when the .1 update comes out. But yeah AFPS looks like will be requirement now instead of an option.
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Of most of the SSDs are already SATA III ready these days. Also, even if you currently don't have SATA III, you might want the option, on MacPro 3,1's at least, of later putting the SSD on a SATA III PCIe card instead.
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Mojave won't offer you the Software Updates at all if the system disk isn't running APFS.
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APFS is only a partial requirement. If you are willing to roll your own patched full installers to apply the point release updates, there really should be no issues. Any security patches are always distributed as stand alone installers on the Apple web site so those can be manually downloaded to install.
How safe is it to turn on Trim for a Crucial MX300 drive?
Netflix does use the HTML5 player as default, but only on Macs 2012 and up...(Some 2011 also) Sounds completely arbitrary to me because Hulu implements it just fine. Maybe some devs could figure out how to disable the model check or spoof it somehow?
My hard drive is APFS volume but the Software Update functionality doesn't work ?…
I have to update from the patcher like for the install, it's inconvenient.
Maybe someone get the solution ?
Thanks in advance.
Really slow the tool for download Mojave. Maybe saturated servers?
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Not that much inconvenient, compared to not have Mojave. Don´t you think?
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Not that much inconvenient, compared to not have Mojave. Don´t you think?
No, no luck. But i read there are problems with sandforce controllers. Maybe i try to find a MARVELL controlled SSD.
I assumed it was a built-in feature of the forum software that was left unused but forgot to hide altogether. That would explain why nobody has them and they aren't mentioned anywhere.
If I guessed right, do I get one?
You may be right. You should get one
You may be right. You should get one
He should get one hundred for Nvidia, C2D, iSight fixes.
Waiting to install the final release of Mojave on my MACPRO 3,1 successfully patched with Dosdude1's High Sierra patcher on an internal Crucial SSD actually HFS + formatted , I need to question the "experts" who already have success in installing Mojave's betas on their Mac Pro 3,1. Is that the right order for the Mojave install :
1) Patching the MacPro ROM with Dosdude1's ROM patcher
2) cloning the internal SSD to an external HD
3) Reformat the SSD as APFS
4) Re-clone the external HD to the internal SSD
5) Full Mojave install with USB key (as in High Sierra) with migration from the external HD
Related questions: Is it better to patch the ROM after the cloning sequence ???????
Is it better to convert the SSD to APFS only when installing Mojave with booting from the USB installer ?????????
Do I have to first format the external HD as APFS before the first cloning sequence ?????
Many thanks in advance for your replies and many thanks to Dosdude1 incredible work.
1) Patching the MacPro ROM with Dosdude1's ROM patcher
2) cloning the internal SSD to an external HD
3) Reformat the SSD as APFS
4) Re-clone the external HD to the internal SSD
5) Full Mojave install with USB key (as in High Sierra) with migration from the external HD
Related questions: Is it better to patch the ROM after the cloning sequence ???????
Is it better to convert the SSD to APFS only when installing Mojave with booting from the USB installer ?????????
Do I have to first format the external HD as APFS before the first cloning sequence ?????
Many thanks in advance for your replies and many thanks to Dosdude1 incredible work.
Technically you should avoid sanforce and Intel SSD controllers to get full 3Gbps Negotiated Speed on old macs SATA2 controllers.
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Agree, CCC supports on-the-fly conversion cloning from HFS+ to APFS, from a Recovery or USB Installer you can re-bless it easily, this was for flag bootable an HFS+:
sudo bless --info /Volumes/YourVolumeLabel
sudo bless --folder /Volumes/YourVolumeLabel/System/Library/CoreServices
This should work for APFS Container using the Preboot Partition you should consider these paths:
Bless system file: <Preboot>/RANDOM-NUMBERS-LETTERS/System/Library/CoreServices/boot.efi
Bless system folder: <Preboot>/RANDOM-NUMBERS-LETTERS/System/Library/CoreServices
(RANDOM-NUMBERS-LETTERS stands for VOLUME-UUID)
diskutil info diskXsY | grep "Volume UUID"
Or instead using the Preboot, you can target directly the APFS Volume as Boot Partition:
sudo bless --folder /Volumes/YOURclonedAPFSVOLUMELABEL/System/Library/CoreServices --bootefi
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Basically how I handled installing Mojave on my MacPro 3,1 except for step 4 which turns step 5 into an upgrade install instead of the clean install with migration that you are after. Just drop step 4 entirely. Also, note that if you don't have a metal compatible graphics card, you need to install the legacy video driver patches.
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I assume that was a typo, right? If you convert or reformat as APFS, there are no issues with Software Update working. Note that if you are saying remaining on HFS is a pain due to the need to install via the patched full installer, even on APFS, you have to boot from a patched full installer usb after the system updates to reapply the post install patches. It would be nice if a mechanism could be found to cache those patches for automatic reinstallation after software upgrades but that probably isn't technically feasible to implement.
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Hi All,
I Cannot try the installation of Mojave on my old MacPro 3,1 because the patcher I just downloaded from dosdude1 page does not let me choose the target drive to use for the USB install key initialization:
The drop list only contains a generic list : Item 1, Item 2, Item 3 and not one of the available mounted volumes.
I'm running the Mojapatcher tool from my 3,1 under 10.13.6
Any clue ?
Thanks in advance.
I Cannot try the installation of Mojave on my old MacPro 3,1 because the patcher I just downloaded from dosdude1 page does not let me choose the target drive to use for the USB install key initialization:
The drop list only contains a generic list : Item 1, Item 2, Item 3 and not one of the available mounted volumes.
I'm running the Mojapatcher tool from my 3,1 under 10.13.6
Any clue ?
Thanks in advance.
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Hi All,
I Cannot try the installation of Mojave on my old MacPro 3,1 because the patcher I just downloaded from dosdude1 page does not let me choose the target drive to use for the USB install key initialization:
The drop list only contains a generic list : Item 1, Item 2, Item 3 and not one of the available mounted volumes.
I'm running the Mojapatcher tool from my 3,1 under 10.13.6
Any clue ?
Thanks in advance.
Try using a usb memory stick instead of a usb drive.
Hi All,
I Cannot try the installation of Mojave on my old MacPro 3,1 because the patcher I just downloaded from dosdude1 page does not let me choose the target drive to use for the USB install key initialization:
The drop list only contains a generic list : Item 1, Item 2, Item 3 and not one of the available mounted volumes.
I'm running the Mojapatcher tool from my 3,1 under 10.13.6
Any clue ?
Thanks in advance.
Answering to myself: the issue is related to TimeMachine.
When launching PatcherTool it probably scan for the available drives in /Volumes and fails (sandbox error) to get the metadata of the TimeMachine network mounted drives. Unmounting this drive and relaunching Patchertool was the solution.
OWC claims that you don't need TRIM on their SSDs. (I know they don't have the greatest reputation here but I already bought one and I'm stuck with it.) Should I still enable it? Will it break things if I do?
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I don't have Netflix so I can't test this, but are they checking a user agent string? They can't get information about your computer in many other ways, can they? So perhaps spoofing it is as simple as changing that string in the Develop menu. Anyone more knowledgeable have an idea if that'll work?
My advice would be to check online to see if others have used the specific model of SSD (not just brand) with TRIM, unless you really don't mind being a guinea pig with your applications, configuration and data.
Also, please note that if you want to configure your SSD as part of a RAID or anything else out-of-the-ordinary (e.g. as a home made pseudo Fusion drive), Apple OS X trimforce may not work.
Obviously not the last word on TRIM, but helpful background for you to search for more specific answers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trim_(computing)
Since I have an abundance of dead (really dead) 2011 a1286 Macbook Pro's I decided to try their cards in the mini as well. Of course they work. Since these have an extra antenna, I modified the top of the mini (I don't recommend you do this) and added an extra antenna from a a1181 Macbook. What this means is you could take a wifi card from a 2012 a1278/a1286 and gain bluetooth 4.0 in a 2009 Mini.
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OK ran into a large problem, I am unable to get into recovery using the CMD+R. I get a circle with a line through it. I need to get into the disc utility and restore menu as I have a new SSD I want to clone. Any ideas or is this a known issue?
CMD+OPT+R doesn't work either.
CMD+OPT+R doesn't work either.
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Didn't you burn the Mojave installer to a Flash Drive? The Installer also has Disk Utility.