I haven't converted my hard drive to APFS on my 08 Aluminium MacBook (It's a moving drive, not SSD) can I install Mojave on here without problems? Or do I need to convert to APFS?
I haven't converted my hard drive to APFS on my 08 Aluminium MacBook (It's a moving drive, not SSD) can I install Mojave on here without problems? Or do I need to convert to APFS?
So I can install the Mojave beta as it is right now, but won't be able to install 10.14.1 or 10.14.2, etc... without updating the version on the installer?Installation on HFS+ works fine with the exception that you won't be able to use Software Update to install point releases. Instead, you'll have to create a new usb patched installer using Mojave Patcher and the matching full installer for that Mojave point release and use that to install with.
I plan to use a Crucial SSD as I have in my MacBook Pro Mid 2010 7,1 what do I ask them for exactly? Thanks.
You can click on Version 10.14 and it will show the build # under about this Mac.If you click on 10-14 it will reveal the build number
Noticed that TRIM Support is No. Does that mean TRIM is not enabled or that it can't be enabled on that drive?
Yes, the Software Update functionality in Mojave is restricted to APFS volumes since Apple assumes are system disks are off of HFS+.So I can install the Mojave beta as it is right now, but won't be able to install 10.14.1 or 10.14.2, etc... without updating the version on the installer?
Yeah, just a couple weeks ago, I was like, I dunno if I'll have Metal on this thing and might have to get something newer or wait for Web drivers. And when I accidentally ordered the original Titan, it just happened to be a Kepler PC Card and just happened to work with Apple's Mojave drivers. I am pretty excited about that even if I only have 2.5GT/s at the moment.Everyone deserves the prize this was a tough OS to crack with all the roadblocks in the way on the 1st beta Kudo's to everyone![]()
Does anyone know if it checks your system # when it updates? For instance does it block a Mac Pro 3,1?Yes, the Software Update functionality in Mojave is restricted to APFS volumes since Apple assumes are system disks are off of HFS+.
I haven't converted my hard drive to APFS on my 08 Aluminium MacBook (It's a moving drive, not SSD) can I install Mojave on here without problems? Or do I need to convert to APFS?
The rumored GM Candidate is pretty darn solid.I'm starting to believe that the "News and Updates" insiders, during the web page updating, have done a typing mistake, most probably build 18A389 is the GM.
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If I knew, I would have updated on September 12th.
Many times betas can no longer be updated, but this time Apple released a version without beta written on it, so it may be updatable. We will see when the .1 update comes out. But yeah AFPS looks like will be requirement now instead of an option.So I can install the Mojave beta as it is right now, but won't be able to install 10.14.1 or 10.14.2, etc... without updating the version on the installer?
SATA II SSD if just want 3 Gb/s. SATA III if you will be upgrading your Mac to lets say a Mac mini 2012 which has SATA III.
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You can click on Version 10.14 and it will show the build # under about this Mac.
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Use 'sudo trimforce enable' to turn on trim on third party SSD. Only Apple Branded SSDs come with trim auto enabled. Many Apple SSDs are Samsung brand (for SATA II/III that is) and they are usually Dark color in nature. I don't know what Apple uses for PCIe in 2016/2018 Laptops. This does not mean that Samsung Retail SSDs have trim, but more than likely those may "fit" Apple's specs. Crucial is another good brand. Sandisk too.
Yeah, just a couple weeks ago, I was like, I dunno if I'll have Metal on this thing and might have to get something newer or wait for Web drivers. And when I accidentally ordered the original Titan, it just happened to be a Kepler PC Card and just happened to work with Apple's Mojave drivers. I am pretty excited about that even if I only have 2.5GT/s at the moment.
Getting ready to put Mojave (same build) on my Mac mini 2012 Quad Core 2.6 Ghz i7 and gonna do some benchmarks between my 2008 Mac Pro and my 2012 Mac mini. See who wins.
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Does anyone know if it checks your system # when it updates? For instance does it block a Mac Pro 3,1?
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Reinstall is easiest. Sometimes you can clone from HFS+ to APFS volume using Carbon Copy Cloner. Sometimes it may complain about Bless not working, other times like second time, it will bless fine.
for Mac Pro 3,1 there is a firmware updater. Dosdudes1 updater also have a software patch for APFS. See FP.
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The rumored GM Candidate is pretty darn solid.
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Many times betas can no longer be updated, but this time Apple released a version without beta written on it, so it may be updatable. We will see when the .1 update comes out. But yeah AFPS looks like will be requirement now instead of an option.
Yeah, just a couple weeks ago, I was like, I dunno if I'll have Metal on this thing and might have to get something newer or wait for Web drivers. And when I accidentally ordered the original Titan, it just happened to be a Kepler PC Card and just happened to work with Apple's Mojave drivers. I am pretty excited about that even if I only have 2.5GT/s at the moment.
Getting ready to put Mojave (same build) on my Mac mini 2012 Quad Core 2.6 Ghz i7 and gonna do some benchmarks between my 2008 Mac Pro and my 2012 Mac mini. See who wins.
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Does anyone know if it checks your system # when it updates? For instance does it block a Mac Pro 3,1?
[doublepost=1537230719][/doublepost]
Reinstall is easiest. Sometimes you can clone from HFS+ to APFS volume using Carbon Copy Cloner. Sometimes it may complain about Bless not working, other times like second time, it will bless fine.
for Mac Pro 3,1 there is a firmware updater. Dosdudes1 updater also have a software patch for APFS. See FP.
[doublepost=1537230794][/doublepost]
The rumored GM Candidate is pretty darn solid.
[doublepost=1537230990][/doublepost]
Many times betas can no longer be updated, but this time Apple released a version without beta written on it, so it may be updatable. We will see when the .1 update comes out. But yeah AFPS looks like will be requirement now instead of an option.
Use 'sudo trimforce enable' to turn on trim on third party SSD. Only Apple Branded SSDs come with trim auto enabled. Many Apple SSDs are Samsung brand (for SATA II/III that is) and they are usually Dark color in nature. I don't know what Apple uses for PCIe in 2016/2018 Laptops. This does not mean that Samsung Retail SSDs have trim, but more than likely those may "fit" Apple's specs. Crucial is another good brand. Sandisk too.
Netflix does use the HTML5 player as default, but only on Macs 2012 and up...(Some 2011 also) Sounds completely arbitrary to me because Hulu implements it just fine. Maybe some devs could figure out how to disable the model check or spoof it somehow?There really isn't any excuse for Netflix not to be using HTML5 other than laziness. Hulu gets alone fine with it.
Yes, the Software Update functionality in Mojave is restricted to APFS volumes since Apple assumes are system disks are off of HFS+.
My hard drive is APFS volume but the Software Update functionality doesn't work ?…
I have to update from the patcher like for the install, it's inconvenient.
Maybe someone get the solution ?
Thanks in advance.
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If you are lucky your SSD vendor could have a SSD support firmware update for your HDD, otherwise I guess you have to change your SSD if you want to get the full 3 Gbps negotiated speed advantages.
I assumed it was a built-in feature of the forum software that was left unused but forgot to hide altogether. That would explain why nobody has them and they aren't mentioned anywhere.
If I guessed right, do I get one?![]()
You may be right. You should get one![]()
No, no luck. But i read there are problems with sandforce controllers. Maybe i try to find a MARVELL controlled SSD.
Reinstall is easiest. Sometimes you can clone from HFS+ to APFS volume using Carbon Copy Cloner. Sometimes it may complain about Bless not working, other times like second time, it will bless fine.
Waiting to install the final release of Mojave on my MACPRO 3,1 successfully patched with Dosdude1's High Sierra patcher on an internal Crucial SSD actually HFS + formatted , I need to question the "experts" who already have success in installing Mojave's betas on their Mac Pro 3,1. Is that the right order for the Mojave install :
1) Patching the MacPro ROM with Dosdude1's ROM patcher
2) cloning the internal SSD to an external HD
3) Reformat the SSD as APFS
4) Re-clone the external HD to the internal SSD
5) Full Mojave install with USB key (as in High Sierra) with migration from the external HD
Related questions: Is it better to patch the ROM after the cloning sequence ???????
Is it better to convert the SSD to APFS only when installing Mojave with booting from the USB installer ?????????
Do I have to first format the external HD as APFS before the first cloning sequence ?????
Many thanks in advance for your replies and many thanks to Dosdude1 incredible work.
My hard drive is APFS volume but the Software Update functionality doesn't work ?…
I have to update from the patcher like for the install, it's inconvenient.
Maybe someone get the solution ?
Thanks in advance.
Hi All,
I Cannot try the installation of Mojave on my old MacPro 3,1 because the patcher I just downloaded from dosdude1 page does not let me choose the target drive to use for the USB install key initialization:
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The drop list only contains a generic list : Item 1, Item 2, Item 3 and not one of the available mounted volumes.
I'm running the Mojapatcher tool from my 3,1 under 10.13.6
Any clue ?
Thanks in advance.
Hi All,
I Cannot try the installation of Mojave on my old MacPro 3,1 because the patcher I just downloaded from dosdude1 page does not let me choose the target drive to use for the USB install key initialization:
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The drop list only contains a generic list : Item 1, Item 2, Item 3 and not one of the available mounted volumes.
I'm running the Mojapatcher tool from my 3,1 under 10.13.6
Any clue ?
Thanks in advance.
SATA II SSD if just want 3 Gb/s. SATA III if you will be upgrading your Mac to lets say a Mac mini 2012 which has SATA III.
[doublepost=1537229994][/doublepost]
You can click on Version 10.14 and it will show the build # under about this Mac.
[doublepost=1537230144][/doublepost]
Use 'sudo trimforce enable' to turn on trim on third party SSD. Only Apple Branded SSDs come with trim auto enabled. Many Apple SSDs are Samsung brand (for SATA II/III that is) and they are usually Dark color in nature. I don't know what Apple uses for PCIe in 2016/2018 Laptops. This does not mean that Samsung Retail SSDs have trim, but more than likely those may "fit" Apple's specs. Crucial is another good brand. Sandisk too.
Netflix does use the HTML5 player as default, but only on Macs 2012 and up...(Some 2011 also) Sounds completely arbitrary to me because Hulu implements it just fine. Maybe some devs could figure out how to disable the model check or spoof it somehow?
SATA II SSD if just want 3 Gb/s. SATA III if you will be upgrading your Mac to lets say a Mac mini 2012 which has SATA III.
[doublepost=1537229994][/doublepost]
You can click on Version 10.14 and it will show the build # under about this Mac.
[doublepost=1537230144][/doublepost]
Use 'sudo trimforce enable' to turn on trim on third party SSD. Only Apple Branded SSDs come with trim auto enabled. Many Apple SSDs are Samsung brand (for SATA II/III that is) and they are usually Dark color in nature. I don't know what Apple uses for PCIe in 2016/2018 Laptops. This does not mean that Samsung Retail SSDs have trim, but more than likely those may "fit" Apple's specs. Crucial is another good brand. Sandisk too.
Didn't you burn the Mojave installer to a Flash Drive? The Installer also has Disk Utility.OK ran into a large problem, I am unable to get into recovery using the CMD+R. I get a circle with a line through it. I need to get into the disc utility and restore menu as I have a new SSD I want to clone. Any ideas or is this a known issue?