macOS 10.14 Mojave on Unsupported Macs Thread

[ASentientBot]

First of all, a big thank you to @dosdude1 and all the people involved in making it possible to install Mojave on unsupported Macs.

I just installed Mojave 10.14.1 on my MBP 5,3 with no drama at all using Mojave's Patcher. Setup went fine and everything works as expected (including the known issues, hehe).

I have a couple of questions:

1) Is the choice between APFS and HFS+ related to the ability to install OTA software updates?
2) Any warnings in regards of Software updates other than the fact that 10.14.x updates could break something?
3) Performance-wise what would be the best choice of file system?

Thanks!

1. APFS is required to install updates through the System Preferences software update, but downloaded updates like this work fine on either

2. Reapply patches after each update, and keep another functioning boot disk/partition in case "the feces impacts the ventilator"

3. APFS will allow instant "copying" of files due to its use of snapshots. HFS+ may perform slightly better, especially on old systems, but overall they are comparable.

This seems like a pretty good summary:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...-good-and-bad-in-apples-new-apfs-file-system/

For what it's worth, I use HFS+. But I also don't use the patcher, so I might be a bit insane.
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You need to have an APFS formatted volume in order to install macOS Mojave Updates via System Preferences. They could break your machine (which is why you will want a backup of your important data) but if you have the latest macOS Mojave Patcher (1.2.3 at this time) you should be set.

Performance wise, APFS is the best choice as its more modern and includes performance improvements across the board, especially for HDD's.

I think you meant especially for SSD's. Users with HDD's are actually recommended to stay on HFS+ because APFS can create a noticeable slowdown.

Also, even if an update "breaks your machine", your data is still safe -- just boot from another drive and copy it off. Having a booting OS is irrelevant to having your files. Although backups are always important!

 

[visberry]

I am now updating to macOS Mojave 10.14.2 on my MacBook Pro (Mid 2010). I will let you know how it goes.
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1. APFS is required to install updates through the System Preferences software update, but downloaded updates like this work fine on either

2. Reapply patches after each update, and keep another functioning boot disk/partition in case "the feces impacts the ventilator"

3. APFS will allow instant "copying" of files due to its use of snapshots. HFS+ may perform slightly better, especially on old systems, but overall they are comparable.

This seems like a pretty good summary:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...-good-and-bad-in-apples-new-apfs-file-system/

For what it's worth, I use HFS+. But I also don't use the patcher, so I might be a bit insane.
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I think you meant especially for SSD's. Users with HDD's are actually recommended to stay on HFS+ because APFS can create a noticeable slowdown.

Also, even if an update "breaks your machine", your data is still safe -- just boot from another drive and copy it off. Having a booting OS is irrelevant to having your files. Although backups are always important!

What he said

 

[Banglazed]

I did a clean install using the USB installer and latest macOS. No issue.

 

[visberry]

Updated from System Preferences (OTA) and used the Post-Patcher and all seems to be good!

 

[albertdrake]

1. APFS is required to install updates through the System Preferences software update, but downloaded updates like this work fine on either

2. Reapply patches after each update, and keep another functioning boot disk/partition in case "the feces impacts the ventilator"

3. APFS will allow instant "copying" of files due to its use of snapshots. HFS+ may perform slightly better, especially on old systems, but overall they are comparable.

This seems like a pretty good summary:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...-good-and-bad-in-apples-new-apfs-file-system/

For what it's worth, I use HFS+. But I also don't use the patcher, so I might be a bit insane.
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I think you meant especially for SSD's. Users with HDD's are actually recommended to stay on HFS+ because APFS can create a noticeable slowdown.

Also, even if an update "breaks your machine", your data is still safe -- just boot from another drive and copy it off. Having a booting OS is irrelevant to having your files. Although backups are always important!

I formatted my SSD with APFS and I was getting an SSL error in the software updates preferences pane. It now shows the 10.14.2 update but I'll wait for confirmation of not having any issues before attempting to install.

Think I'll give it a few days before restoring my data and staying with this setup. Few visual glitches but apparently nothing annoying enough to prevent me from staying with Mojave, hehe.

Want to see how battery performance feels like as well.

Thank you!
[doublepost=1544051085][/doublepost]Being picky here... but I feel that the mouse tracking speed or inertial feels sluggish on my MBP 5,3. I'm using the default settings. Anyone else with a similar experience? Or is it just a matter of perception?

Feels like a "performance" issue... but maybe I'm just being paranoid...

 

[mrcarl79]

So I've been watching and searching this thread for any "AMD Radeon HD 6970M" or HD4xxx/HD6xxx news, I know it's unsuported at a hardware level so wasnt holding much hope but I do love my modded 2011 27" i7 Quad with SSD and loads of memory which ran like a dream. I know it will run for many years perfectly fine on High Sierra, but I do like the latest OS and a sucker for dark mode so I think I need to you know just move on ha

Just as one last question before I do, I believe this iMac uses the MXM 3.0 GPU slot (a bit like a memory slot). Would there be any other GPUs that could be purchased off eBay or the like that would support Metal? Does the HD4xxx as a downgrade work for for Metal as it seems older iMacs can be patched to run Mojave? I also read of someone doing the following upgrade "2010 iMac 27, quad i7. Went from Radeon HD4870M 512M to Radeon HD 6770M 512M with 0 problems." and wondered if it could be done in reverse if the 4xxx did work? or if there was any upgraded GPUs that might work?

Thanks!

 

[dictoresno]

my MacBook Pro 6,2 updated via the OTA app, but once the progress bar got all the way to the end after rebooting, it won't complete. updating the USB now to see if it helps.

 

[mrcarl79]

So I've been watching and searching this thread for any "AMD Radeon HD 6970M" or HD4xxx/HD6xxx news, I know it's unsuported at a hardware level so wasnt holding much hope but I do love my modded 2011 27" i7 Quad with SSD and loads of memory which ran like a dream. I know it will run for many years perfectly fine on High Sierra, but I do like the latest OS and a sucker for dark mode so I think I need to you know just move on ha

Just as one last question before I do, I believe this iMac uses the MXM 3.0 GPU slot (a bit like a memory slot). Would there be any other GPUs that could be purchased off eBay or the like that would support Metal? Does the HD4xxx as a downgrade work for for Metal as it seems older iMacs can be patched to run Mojave? I also read of someone doing the following upgrade "2010 iMac 27, quad i7. Went from Radeon HD4870M 512M to Radeon HD 6770M 512M with 0 problems." and wondered if it could be done in reverse if the 4xxx did work? or if there was any upgraded GPUs that might work?

Thanks!

Just had more of a search around, is this any kind of option?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/GTX...ptop-GTX-765-GTX765-Graphics/32931029590.html

Seems it's been fitted to a 2011 27" in the past:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/2011-imac-graphics-card-upgrade.1596614/page-27#post-24382188

 

[BuffyzDead]

Late 2009 Mac mini
Now Upgraded to 10.14.2

System Preferences/Software Update found update
Downloaded and installed from there
Got caught in the Verbose Boot Loop
Connected USB Patch Tool
Held Option Key
Booted from Patch Tool and Applied Post Install Patches
AND

 

[lunarworks]

Does the current USB tool still work or will a new one be needed?

 

[webg3]

Here too, everything worked out in Raid0 APFS.
System updated by OTA

Re-patched from USB 10.14.1 Mojave Dosdude1

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[ctaylora1231]

So got a unique situation I think. I was successfully able to upgrade to the newest OS 10.14.2, OTA, without having to use USB Patcher Tool post-patches(I don’t think my Mac mini even restarted). Unlike every previous update. Although I do remember way back at the start of mojave betas on unsupported Macs, my very first install of Mojave onto my Mac Mini 5.1 rebooted directly into Mojave without post install patches. I don’t seem to be having any issues but just thought it was odd. Any ideas?

 

[roysterdoyster]

Try this: https://github.com/SpiraMira/HybridMode-Public/releases/tag/v1.3
read the instructions

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@LuisN @segfaultdotorg

due to the graphic anomalies I have noy yet installed Mojave on my MBP4,1 17-inch, Early 2008.
I'd like to use the method you were both successful with, please help me out with the following:

i) v1.3 is named "Update" -> does that mean I have to start with v.1.0 and build up all the way to v1.3?
ii) it says v1.3. is Mojave 10.14.1 Final only [build 18B75] ->wait with updating to Mojave 10.14.2 until update to v1.4 is made avaliable by SiraMira?
iii) v.1.3 only contains 2 of 3 items mentioned in the instructions: CoreUIHybrid and HIToolboxMenubar, AppKit is omitted

How do I proceed? Your advice is appreciated.

 

[L Caputo]

So downloaded the 10.14.2 Combo Update in order to install on my HFS+ Mojave install. Of course modified the Distribution file so that it would install on the MP 3.1 has I have done successfully from Sierra all the way to Mojave 10.14.1. But alas another error is thrown up saying that it can only be installed on Macs with SSD drives.

Anybody else noticed this new development, and got an idea what to do.

Thanks in advance.

 

[LuisN]

@LuisN @segfaultdotorg

due to the graphic anomalies I have noy yet installed Mojave on my MBP4,1 17-inch, Early 2008.
I'd like to use the method you were both successful with, please help me out with the following:

i) v1.3 is named "Update" -> does that mean I have to start with v.1.0 and build up all the way to v1.3?
ii) it says v1.3. is Mojave 10.14.1 Final only [build 18B75] ->wait with updating to Mojave 10.14.2 until update to v1.4 is made avaliable by SiraMira?
iii) v.1.3 only contains 2 of 3 items mentioned in the instructions: CoreUIHybrid and HIToolboxMenubar, AppKit is omitted

How do I proceed? Your advice is appreciated.

Download this:

Install following guide.

AppKit is deprecated (I think)

 

[albacore]

Dear Community:

For an iMac 8,1 with an HFS+ file system, what is the recommended solution for updating to 10.14.2 when the update is not seen in System Preferences?

Yours truly

Albacore

 

[coasterOneEightThree]

10.14.2 update accomplished on a Mac Pro 3.1. Excellent!

Has anybody seen some news about NVIDIA web drivers for Mojave?

 

[laertemeira]

So got a unquie situation I think. I was successfully able to upgrade to the newest OS 10.14.2, OTA, without having to use USB Patcher Tool post-patches(I don’t think my Mac mini even restarted). Unlike every previous update. Although I do remember way back at the start of mojave betas on unsupported Macs, my very first install of Mojave onto my Mac Mini 5.1 rebooted directly into Mojave without post install patches. I don’t seem to be having any issues but just thought it was odd. Any ideas?

My MacbookPro8,3 updated too, without any post-install tool used. Very good!

 

[Vyzantion]

Dear Community:

For an iMac 8,1 with an HFS+ file system, what is the recommended solution for updating to 10.14.2 when the update is not seen in System Preferences?

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Yours truly

Albacore

Download from the updated dosdude1 app, when he puts it online. I guess it will be today or tomorrow. OR you reinstall the OS on APFS and download it like that. I suggest you choose the first.
[doublepost=1544094330][/doublepost]This update went fine, unlike the previous one. We are waiting for the updated dosdude1 app, to get be able to put the updated OS on the pen drive. We can download it right now from Apple, but we shall wait for the updated app, in order to get it patched.

 

[markimel]

@dosdude1 any chance to update the dgpu disable page (http://dosdude1.com/gpudisable/) and add the information, that sleep and brightness will not work anymore after these steps? I did the patching process because of the information "should work completly normally" and had a hard time to find these informations (and have to rollback to HS)

 

[carlcaulkett]

Hello, I've been using the Dosdude1 patch for about 4 versions of Mojave now, since one of the betas. Each time, I've downloaded onto the USB drive and installed from there. I get the impression that some people have been able to use the Software Update facility in System Preferences to do subsequent updates, but if I go to that option in System Preferences, it just tells me that my 10.14.1 system is up to date, and that no 10.14.2 update is available.

Anyone have any ideas how I can do an in-place update?

 

[AlexyFoxy]

Here on MacBook Pro 13' late 2011, updated to 10.14.2 no post install fix needed just reapplied patches from patch updater tool.

 

[saudor]

Did a OTA upgrade from 10.14.1 to 10.14.2. Didnt even have to run the patcher and everything works. Had to repatch the night shift but that's it

 

[alphascorp]

Hello everyone,
MacBook Pro 5.3 15" MID-2009 successfully upgraded from 10.14.1 to 10.14.2

 

[tchek]

Hi Dudes,

I updated in 10.14.2 from 10.14.1 my 2 old iMac 21&27 inches

Here is what i did:
I followed the explanations of DaniloGeekDude (Thanks )

1. System Preferences | Software Update, then click on "update now".
2. It will reboot and then show "installing software update ...xx minutes remaining)
3. When finishing step 2, it will again reboot. Now the next step (4) is important.
4. Option-Key and boot to "Mojave Patcher" 1.2.3 thumb drive.
5. run MacOS Post Install. Check on "Force Rebuild Cache" and then reboot.
6. It will boot with the message "Finishing Update" on black screen.
7. Then you are done!

Fast update without issue