macOS 10.14 Mojave on Unsupported Macs Thread

[jowaju]

So I just installed Mojave on a MBP 6,2 (mid 2010 with Nvidia Geforce 320M maxed out RAM and SSD) and I am getting pretty bad Quicktime performance when playing back 1080p files that played butter smooth under HighSierra. I see that others have had Quicktime Issues but not with my exact model. Anyone have any solutions to improve quicktime performance?

Did you try the GVA patch posted earlier in this thread? It fixes several graphic speed issues on the older Nvidia based laptops. Worth a quick try.

 

[jackluke]

So I just installed Mojave on a MBP 6,2 (mid 2010 with Nvidia Geforce 320M maxed out RAM and SSD) and I am getting pretty bad Quicktime performance when playing back 1080p files that played butter smooth under HighSierra. I see that others have had Quicktime Issues but not with my exact model. Anyone have any solutions to improve quicktime performance?

I guess you meant Nvidia GT 330M , same here, 1080p quicktime (and some hires screensavers too) is choppy on Mojave on that machine, while for example using VLC is smoother on the same videos playback, instead on the same machine I confirm that 1080p videos are played smoothly from HighSierra quicktime.

And to add I just tried an H264/AVC 1080p mp4 from HighSierra even using/switching to the other IntelHD is still enough smooth on 1080p.

No way on Mojave, at least I don't know a way how to, unless not using quicktime but VLC or other third party mediaplayer.

 

[upipes]

Hi upipes, I am also following this development and I am considering getting an AMD580 to test it out. The patch is presently only for 14.5 and will only help if you have a metal AMD card. It will make no difference to the GTX680 as the fix is to the AMD metal driver so it can use SSE4.1 as far as I understand. These AMD cards may suit FCP better but there may be other restrictions in our old machines. Also with 10.15 now on the horizon It may be worth waiting to see what happens. The other downside is that there are no Mac efi AMD560/580 cards so no boot screen. However this may change with the new mp now due.

Yes Flacko! we have to wait a bit... and now that the new MP is introduced,... I know that my old 3,1 will be with me for a looong time.
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no way. your videocard has no drivers
Mojave is nvidia 400-700 series (except 750) series only for nvidia
and radeon 7000+ for amd.
And one can't patch that

Hi Netkas, do I guess this answer is to my post?
If yes, I understand that is only a question of a driver (for start) and as the GTX driver is included on Mojave, nothing to do. Is that? Nothing else can be done, in order to the 3,1 and GTX systems perform more powerful?

Thank you for answering and explaining a bit more to those as me...
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no way. your videocard has no drivers
Mojave is nvidia 400-700 series (except 750) series only for nvidia
and radeon 7000+ for amd.
And one can't patch that

It would be really interesting if someone that follows your patch, make a the "BruceX test" on a Mac Pro 3,1 in order to check how powerfull can run the graphics card. I'd try it, but I don't have the card... If runs faster, I'll go for it.

 

[netkas]

that was an answer to https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ed-macs-thread.2121473/page-633#post-27425000

 

[upipes]

that was an answer to https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ed-macs-thread.2121473/page-633#post-27425000

Oh sorry... my mistake.
So, is an answer to my mess?

 

[avz]

So I just installed Mojave on a MBP 6,2 (mid 2010 with Nvidia Geforce 320M maxed out RAM and SSD) and I am getting pretty bad Quicktime performance when playing back 1080p files that played butter smooth under HighSierra. I see that others have had Quicktime Issues but not with my exact model. Anyone have any solutions to improve quicktime performance?

AppleGVA.framework from High Sierra is the answer you are looking for as was suggested by gosvamih earlier in the thread. It fixes a lot of things but it seems that with GeForce9400M it reintroduces the issue from High Sierra where some videos gets scrambled. You should be OK with the 320M.

 

[jackluke]

AppleGVA.framework from High Sierra is the answer you are looking for as was suggested by gosvamih earlier in the thread. It fixes a lot of things but it seems that with GeForce9400M it reintroduces the issue from High Sierra where some videos gets scrambled. You should be OK with the 320M.

You know I have same your Macbook7,1 and from a Nvidia GF 320M 1080p are smooth even without AppleGVA.framework replacing, but I guess @sailingdarter meant the GT 330M, that weirdly has some issues with Mojave.

Even Nvidia GF 9400M plays smoothly the 1080p from Mojave quicktime, but I can assure not the MBP 6,2 on Mojave.

 

[avz]

You know I have same your Macbook7,1 and from a Nvidia GF 320M 1080p are smooth even without AppleGVA.framework replacing, but I guess @sailingdarter meant the GT 330M, that weirdly has some issues with Mojave.

Even Nvidia GF 9400M plays smoothly the 1080p from Mojave quicktime, but I can assure not the MBP 6,2 on Mojave.

If I remember correctly it is not so much about the smooth playback per se but about the ability to jump anywhere on a timeline of 1GB video file without the freeze. AppleGVA.framework from HS definitely helped to achieve this on my MacBook5,1 plus DVD player does not seem to work without it on Mojave.

 

[jackluke]

@jowaju and @avz instead you are totally right, I've tried right now and effectively replacing the HighSierra AppleGVA.framework into Mojave /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/ does worked!

Now the 1080p quicktime videos are smoother, ok not so smooth as HighSierra but definitely no more choppy.

Even switching forcing to use only the IntelHD now 1080p videos play fine on Mojave, thanks.

@sailingdarter following their useful tips, if you need the most recent HighSierra 17G7024 AppleGVA framework I attached it.

 

[alphascorp]

Hi everybody
I also have slowness and jerks when playing videos files with Quicktime. I solved that with IINA player, I even read the 4K video files on MBP5.3 and iMac 8.1

 

[jackluke]

Hi everybody
I also have slowness and jerks when playing videos files with Quicktime. I solved that with IINA player, I even read the 4K video files on MBP5.3 and iMac 8.1

Yes, I also used VLC without slowness, but lets say this useful fix, that I didn't noticed before, helped me to for example playing some hires screensavers or when hitting space-bar to preview a 1080p video directly from Mojave Finder.

 

[webg3]

@dosdude1 not wanting to ask too much, you can include this in your Patch, so we will have a more complete system. Thank you very much for all these years. Thank you again.

@jowaju and @avz instead you are totally right, I've tried right now and effectively replacing the HighSierra AppleGVA.framework into Mojave /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/ does worked!

Now the 1080p quicktime videos are smoother, ok not so smooth as HighSierra but definitely no more choppy.

Even switching forcing to use only the IntelHD now 1080p videos play fine on Mojave, thanks.

@sailingdarter following their useful tips, if you need the most recent HighSierra 17G7024 AppleGVA framework I attached it.

 

[alphascorp]

Yes, I also used VLC without slowness, but lets say this useful fix, that I didn't noticed before, helped me to for example playing some hires screensavers or when hitting space-bar to preview a 1080p video directly from Mojave Finder.

Indeed I had not thought about previewing video files with the spacebar.
I made the replacement immediately.
Thank you

EDIT: Works perfectly on iMac8,1 and MBP5,3

 

[honglong1976]

Hi everyone,

I have a macbook pro (mid 2009). I installed the APFS patch and Mojave was running great. Then I updated to 10.14.5. I noticed the following:

- The laptop brightness fails to go up or down (it worked ok before)
- sluggish
- APFS text appears on booting (do I need to flash again?)

Anyone else experiencing the same issues? Any fixes?

thanks for your help.

 

[Marty56]

Hi everyone,

I have a macbook pro (mid 2009). I installed the APFS patch and Mojave was running great. Then I updated to 10.14.5. I noticed the following:

- The laptop brightness fails to go up or down (it worked ok before)
- sluggish
- APFS text appears on booting (do I need to flash again?)

Anyone else experiencing the same issues? Any fixes?

thanks for your help.

My macbook pro (mid 2009) is working nicely under 10.14.5. Did you create a new USB stick?

 

[honglong1976]

My macbook pro (mid 2009) is working nicely under 10.14.5. Did you create a new USB stick?

Yes. I didn't do a fresh install though.

I chose Macbook Pro 5,5 for the patches.
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My macbook pro (mid 2009) is working nicely under 10.14.5. Did you create a new USB stick?

Working again now.

I went to utilities and reinstalled all the patches via patch updated.

Hope this helps someone

 

[0403979]

I just released an update to macOS Patcher which includes some improvements and adds new patches for certain models.

Thanks to @jackluke for his work on the MacBookPro6,2 dual GPU patch and @Larsvonhier for his on the MacBook4,1 AirPort patch.

Release notes for macOS Patcher 2.3:

• Improve version checking code.
• Add MacBook4,1 AirPort patch
• Add MacBookPro6,2 10.14.5+ dual GPU patch
• Add 10.14.6 patch support

macOS Patcher 2.3 can be downloaded here.

 

[tsialex]

Bom dia Alex, I've read about this and I'm really amazed.
As a 3,1 owner, I've bought a GTX680 as the only card available to having a 3,1 with Mojave. It works, yes, but unfortunately the performance in Final Cut (what I do) is really worse than with my old 5770 in El Capitan. This is unbelievable due the ATI it had only 1gb and this GTX 2gb...
I'm still trying to get all the power from this card. Do you think this patch it would work on my GTX? Any way to get that my 3,1 runs faster video editing? Would this open a new way for cases like mine?
Thank you

This patch has absolutely nothing to do with NVIDIA GPUs, it’s for AMD GCN GPUs (HD77xx on wards) that couldn’t work with MP3,1 Xeon before.

If you need better performance with GTX680, use High Sierra and NVIDIA webdrivers + CUDA, not Mojave where Apple native NVIDIA drivers can’t even use CUDA.

You should go to a FCP forum and ask there for optimizing tips, not here.

 

[sailingdarter]

@jowaju and @avz instead you are totally right, I've tried right now and effectively replacing the HighSierra AppleGVA.framework into Mojave /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/ does worked!

Now the 1080p quicktime videos are smoother, ok not so smooth as HighSierra but definitely no more choppy.

Even switching forcing to use only the IntelHD now 1080p videos play fine on Mojave, thanks.

@sailingdarter following their useful tips, if you need the most recent HighSierra 17G7024 AppleGVA framework I attached it.

This worked beautifully. Thanks the videos are smooth again

 

[hvds]

I see that dosdude has provided a new patcher version 1.3.3. I'll make a new USB installer for 10.14.5 with it to always have the latest stable system at hand for re-install. It is good to have these easy-to-use, well supported tools.

I've profited not only from these, Sierra to Mojave, but also from the APFS ROM patch and from crucial help in fixing my MBP5,2 when it had developed hardware problems. Many thanks dosdude!

Needless to say that I profited a lot from contributions throughout this thread, e.g. from jackluke regarding special needs for dGPU systems, from ASentientBot for guidance through 10.14.5 beta troubles. Many thanks!

I'm confident the common effort from the key contributors to this thread will also materialize in a Catalina patched for unsupported Macs.

 

[Hindrik1997]

@dosdude1 Are you sure the patch from Netkas for MCP3,1's AMD graphics patch was only rolled out for 10.14.5? I also received it on mine running 10.14.4.

 

[avz]

For those who is keeping track of the security updates:
Gatekeeper got updated to 167, TCC Configuration Data to 17.0.

 

[upipes]

This patch has absolutely nothing to do with NVIDIA GPUs, it’s for AMD GCN GPUs (HD77xx on wards) that couldn’t work with MP3,1 Xeon before.

If you need better performance with GTX680, use High Sierra and NVIDIA webdrivers + CUDA, not Mojave where Apple native NVIDIA drivers can’t even use CUDA.

You should go to a FCP forum and ask there for optimizing tips, not here.

Obrigado Alex,
but Final Cut Pro doesn't get any advantage from Nvidia/Cuda drivers, as far as I know. It's the Open CL technology what FCP needs. As I have read, my MP 3.1 can run Mojave, but doesn't support Metal, and that's the problem for my particular issue, and it seems latest FCP version is written for take the advantage of Metal.
Maybe this is the end of the road for my MacPro (as a video editing computer)... but the fact that now ATI HD77xx can be installed on 3.1's it opens the door for a possible help on this... maybe!
I have asked on FCP forum, and nobody answerded... am I the only one?

Bom día!

 

[honglong1976]

Is it normal after installing an OS update to have to run the APFS patcher each time?

Mine is still showing the text when booting, even though it was flashed and worked ok with an APFS formatted SSD prior to the update.

It's no problem if I have to flash again.

Steps (which may help some people):

- APFS formatted drive
- Install latest OS update
- Boot from USB to apply patches (for my laptop, macbook pro 5,5)
- Reinstall patches in Mojave
- then Go to System Preferences/Startup Disk and make sure your Mojave disk is selected

thanks

 

[avz]

Is it normal after installing an OS update to have to run the APFS patcher each time?

Mine is still showing the text when booting, even though it was flashed and worked ok with an APFS formatted SSD.

thanks

Go to System Preferences/Startup Disk and make sure your Mojave disk is selected.