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Aston441

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My impression was that the great hurdle was AVX2. Now that that's been leapt, any news on whether non-metal graphics may happen also?
 
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Aston441 said:
My impression was that the great hurdle was AVX2. Now that that's been leapt, any news on whether non-metal graphics may happen also?
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As stated on the GitHub repository, non-metal is being hondered by a bunch of factors this year (as we expected, with macOS Ventura bringing forward a new graphics stack). The main issue area is WindowManager, Ventura’s new application for controlling windows, spaces, etc. moving calls that were originally in SkyLight (a framework non-metal Macs have patched and downgraded). Due to this, the current non-Metal patches won’t work as is and will require heavy modifications to work on Ventura.
 
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possible to emulate on pre haswell via virtual machine then run via gpu passthru? tgx
 
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Watched this Macrumors review of M2 MBA


One of the comments mentions a M1 MBA with 8GB RAM had extremely high SSD swap usage.

Makes me wonder what running Monterrey (and hopefully someday Ventura) on my 2011 MBA with 4 GB RAM is doing to the old Samsung SSD. I haven't bothered to see just how much swap it's using - when it gives up the smoke, oh well. Anyone out there have their SSD give out yet since OCLPing?
 
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Anyone out there have their SSD give out yet since OCLPing?
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Having issues that could well be that. Container disk gets corrupted, can not be repaired so wipe and new install is required. Happened maybe 7-8 times in the last year since I updated to Monterey on my rMBP 10,1. Could be something else too I guess but my suspicion is that the swapping is too much for the generic cheap 1tb SSD in there.
Also deleting the old swap files has solved it a few times. Does not happen on other Macs I use.
 
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Having issues that could well be that. Container disk gets corrupted, can not be repaired so wipe and new install is required. Happened maybe 7-8 times in the last year since I updated to Monterey on my MBP 10,1. Could be something else too I guess but my suspicion is that the swapping is too much for the generic cheap 1tb SSD in there.
Also deleting the old swap files has solved it a few times. Does not happen on other Macs I use.
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You're referencing the rMBP?
 
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Aston441 said:
Watched this Macrumors review of M2 MBA


One of the comments mentions a M1 MBA with 8GB RAM had extremely high SSD swap usage.

Makes me wonder what running Monterrey (and hopefully someday Ventura) on my 2011 MBA with 4 GB RAM is doing to the old Samsung SSD. I haven't bothered to see just how much swap it's using - when it gives up the smoke, oh well. Anyone out there have their SSD give out yet since OCLPing?
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my early 2013 8gig pro with the stock ssd is way slower in terms of booting the os up since upgrading to big sur and then to monterey {takes almost a minute}, but for now all the software i tried still reports that the SSD is in good health, swap is pretty low when doing regular tasks. The only time I've seen it go high is when I was video editing and doing other tasks meanwhile.
 
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Count me. Why -> security reasons mainly. Good example might be recent Monterey 12.5.1 update, which for Big Sur devices came only in form of Safari update.
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Genuine question - is there any extra security exposure from the SIP changes needed for OCLP, that would outweigh the legit macOS updates?
 
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Hopefully, Skylake doesn't need root patches at all, but my (very early) research has stopped because I no longer have access to a Skylake Mac for testing.

If anyone is willing to offer up a Skylake machine (iGPU only models) for development, please get in touch.
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Would testing on a MacBook 8,1 help you at all? I realize that's Broadwell, not Skylake.
 
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OCLP 0.5.0... MacBook Pro Early 2015 Retina A1502 - working with spoof as Intel HD 4000 in opencore 0.8.4 (OpenCore-Patcher.app).

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And installing Kernel Debug Kit 13.0 Beta 6, disable AMFI boot-args (amfi_get_out_of_my_way=1), start OpenCore-Patcher.app (0.5.0) and install root patches

After boot:
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Showing as Metal 2 device.

Everything is working.

Thanks to the OCLP Team.

The links:

EFI (Real Mac) OpenCore => https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hZIqMRA0X9QHOTlLwBWLDXrDf1itdner/view?usp=sharing
Ventura 13.0 Beta 6 => https://swcdn.apple.com/content/dow...95g4ju8ocpx9qmufipr10myd/InstallAssistant.pkg
Kernel Debug Kit Ventura 13.0 Beta 6 => https://download.developer.apple.co...331f/Kernel_Debug_Kit_13.0_build_22A5331f.dmg
 
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Anyone still on Ventura build 5286j can find the Kernel debug kit here.

edit: Just tried @fernando.c.neves steps with that build/Kdebug combo. Seems to patch alright with OCLP0.5.0 for Kepler on my MP3.1 but does not finish booting after that. No reset/reboot, but just no login. (Might be some error on my side or just the combination of MP3.1/Kepler GPU.)
Will try again with latest build combination...
 
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chris1111 said:
Working here MacBook Pro Late 2013 Intel Iris:)

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No issue patcher
My Steps : Put my EFI on EFI partition of my Thunderbolt SSD
Create Thunderbolt SSD with Startosinstall-Ventura
After Installing Beta 6; Important is rebooting after install Kernel Debug

Then Run OCLP thats it

If some user whants my EFI simply tell me
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so it downgrade the framebuffer from BDW to capri/azul ?
 
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chris1111 said:
Working here MacBook Pro Late 2013 Intel Iris:)

View attachment 2048157

No issue patcher
My Steps : Put my EFI on EFI partition of my Thunderbolt SSD
Create Thunderbolt SSD with Startosinstall-Ventura
After Installing Beta 6; Important is rebooting after install Kernel Debug

Then Run OCLP thats it

If some user whants my EFI simply tell me
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Can it be done on Macbook Pro 9.2 with HD4000?(with dyld cache replacement and other steps required like khronokernel did it.)
 
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