A word to the wise, OCLP and High Sierra will likely result in problems.🙃
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Thanks for the reply...
problems? May I ask...why?
I intended to do a clean install without OCLP
That s/b OK as long as OCLP and High Sierra are not on the same DD. 🙃
@K two Which "wise" are you referring to. You are confusing this with something else.
The problem is with High Sierra and any version of macOS that is Big Sur or newer, not with OCLP and High Sierra (although you don't need OCLP to boot/patch HS). In other words, if my Mac can natively run Big Sur without OCLP, I can't install HS and BS on the same drive (without OCLP).
The problem is with High Sierra and any version of macOS that is Big Sur or newer, not with OCLP and High Sierra (although you don't need OCLP to boot/patch HS). In other words, if my Mac can natively run Big Sur without OCLP, I can't install HS and BS on the same drive (without OCLP).
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I forgot to ask. The iMac I’m getting is a late 2012 A1418 and comes loaded with Catalina. Can I go directly to 13.6 using OCLP via USB install?
You could, but why not install Ventura in a new APFS volume and migrate? This way, your original Catalina volume (which I assume is working) remains a viable backup until you have everything working.
EDIT: I answered without knowing all the facts. If Catalina is installed with any other patcher (like DosDude's patcher), you may have problems with OCLP if you attempt to install and patch over DosDude unless you can completely remove the old patches first.
I have to read up on how to do that but this computer will be for my wife. Explaining “volumes” to her will just confuse things even more. But your idea is good.
When you read up on how to do that, you'll realize that only you need to understand volumes. She doesn't need to know. This might help.
Yes, I would like to do what I did for a MacPro identical to mine that was stuck in Snow Leopard (or something similar):
1) from 4.1 to 5.1
2) upgrade up to HighSierra
3) change graphics card
4) upgrade up to Mojave (native)
5) then OCLP for subsequent versions.
In my case, clean installation of High Sierra.
Do you think it's ok? Do I have any other way of making my RX580 read without the downgrade?
This might be an idea: why wouldn’t you install all operating systems you need in separate APFS containers on the same ssd and boot as it becomes necessary?
I got Mojave (32bit apps), Catalina (Firmware update) and Sonoma on one hard drive on separate containers as I need to boot from different systems from time to time.
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This was a terrific help, except for one main stumbling block, which I think I overcame mainly by chance.
When I began the install, was greeted by the now 2 Install macOS Ventura, with no idea which one was the newly created one for the Mini. Basically a crapshoot, but since the new one had appeared at the right on the Desktop, I decided to select the one at the right on the first reboot, and it turned out it must have been the correct one, since I was able to finish the installation. Had I been wrong, after watching innumerable progress bars and screen changes, it would have resulted in some kind of message to the effect that the installation was configured for the wrong drive--and I would have had to start all over again. OUCH!
After that, it was basically looking at innumerable screen changes/progress bars, which, unlike on any previous attempts, I decided not to second-guess at all, and just allowed whatever it wanted to keep going, and going, and going, for hours (compared to the iMac, the Mini is quite slow).
Also, and this might or might not have been a big one, I had sent over the Ventura Installer from the iMac to the Mini, which resulted in making me, not System, the owner. Hadn't noticed that before. So, not trusting that installer, decided to get a brand new installer directly at the Mini this time with the correct permissions - which I realize I could have changed without getting a new installer, but decided to start fresh.
Also, no matter what I tried, I was always brought to the Recovery page, and from there had to select the Ventura installer to proceed-don't think that's mentioned anywhere in the OpenCore directions. Could be that I was brought to Recovery because I installed to a partition on the Internal drive, which means cohabitation between High Sierra and Ventura. I realize that this is not recommended, and I won't go into all the details at the moment, but based on my experience at the iMac, this in fact works out best for me. What I like about this is that, one way or another, I can always select an item I need from the HS volume and bring it over to the Ventura. Just too much at the HS to allow a complete migration, and don't have the patience to select among hundreds of items on a first migration. (So basically did the migration from the Ventura CCC backup at the iMac - which also has its problems, since it brings over some bugs and incompatibilities, which I'm presently trying to sort out).
Thanks again for all the help with this.
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Interesting idea, but I think it doesn't solve much for my use. and then I don't know if I could do it!
Been pondering doing this for awhile now.
Thought I would give OCLP 1.2.1 a whirl on my Late 2015 iMac 17,1 today to install Ventura. Just wanted to report that the installation was flawless. I did an "upgrade", right over Monterey, and at the end it brought me to a very familiar login screen. Everything works as before with no issues found so far.
I was also able to spoof my iMac model to 20,2, which added a "new device" to my iCloud account. It now shows an iMac with the Ventura wallpaper, and I was able to remove the one with the Monterey wallpaper, which now allowed me to turn on Advanced Data Protection for iCloud, which before kept telling me my iMac was too old and would have to be removed from my account before I could turn this feature on. More than one way to skin a cat.
I guess time will tell if this was a good move, but so far all signs point to yes.
Thanks to everyone who invests time in OCLP for us to squeeze some additional life out of these great machines.
Thought I would give OCLP 1.2.1 a whirl on my Late 2015 iMac 17,1 today to install Ventura. Just wanted to report that the installation was flawless. I did an "upgrade", right over Monterey, and at the end it brought me to a very familiar login screen. Everything works as before with no issues found so far.
I was also able to spoof my iMac model to 20,2, which added a "new device" to my iCloud account. It now shows an iMac with the Ventura wallpaper, and I was able to remove the one with the Monterey wallpaper, which now allowed me to turn on Advanced Data Protection for iCloud, which before kept telling me my iMac was too old and would have to be removed from my account before I could turn this feature on. More than one way to skin a cat.
I guess time will tell if this was a good move, but so far all signs point to yes.
Thanks to everyone who invests time in OCLP for us to squeeze some additional life out of these great machines.
Hello,
my mid 214 rMBP is on latest Ventura and OCLP version 1.2.1. I cannot get OpenVPN to work. I load the VPN profile and it connects with no issue. After the first reboot I won't work any longe, keep on trying to connect and after a while, it returns an error.
Has anyone an idea? Where is the problem?
Thanks,
Daniele
my mid 214 rMBP is on latest Ventura and OCLP version 1.2.1. I cannot get OpenVPN to work. I load the VPN profile and it connects with no issue. After the first reboot I won't work any longe, keep on trying to connect and after a while, it returns an error.
Has anyone an idea? Where is the problem?
Thanks,
Daniele
Open VPN Client? I use Tunnelblick without any issues.
Just out of curiosity, is this happening to you after you migrate from a previous macOS? If so (and if OVPN client), have you tried re-installing the OVPN client profile / certs?
EDIT: If not after a migration from a previous macOS, was the VPN working for you in a previous version of Ventura (before an upgrade)?
It is the Open VPN client and I have not migrated but it is a fresh install. I have tried to re-install it, as said, immediately it works and then it stop connecting!
Hello,
I have tried with Tunneblick but I will not open the window to load the VPN configuration file and when clicked on VPN details it freezes.
Then when you click on add VPN, nothing happens. If a double click on vpn configuration file or select open with Tunnelblick, nothing happens.
Any idea to help me solve this? Thanks.
Daniele
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I don't have any problems with Tunnelblick client on my MBP6,2 patched with OCLP 0.6.8 running Ventura 13.6.1. My OCLP config is as follows:
- AMFI: enabled
- Library Validation: enabled
- Feature Unlock: Partial (I don't think this has anything to do with your OVPN issue, just reporting to be thorough)
- SIP: 0x803
Code:
kextstat | grep -i restrict
nvram 4D1FDA02-38C7-4A6A-9CC6-4BCCA8B30102:revpatch
nvram 7C436110-AB2A-4BBB-A880-FE41995C9F82:csr-active-config
nvram -p | grep -i amfi
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Menubar Mini 4,1 not working properly:
Have both iStat Menus and Little Snitch. Completely unable to move any items from these into the menubar. Other items can be added (please see screenshot) just not these 2. Have tried absolutely everything I can think of: Safe Boot, NVRAM Reset, uninstalled third party menubar Boring Old Menu Bar, relaunched Finder, restarted SystemUIServer, reverted and reinstalled Post-Install Root Patch, and other things I'm probably not remembering at the moment.
No such problem at the iMac (iMac 10,1)
Whatever you can think of will be greatly appreciated.
Have both iStat Menus and Little Snitch. Completely unable to move any items from these into the menubar. Other items can be added (please see screenshot) just not these 2. Have tried absolutely everything I can think of: Safe Boot, NVRAM Reset, uninstalled third party menubar Boring Old Menu Bar, relaunched Finder, restarted SystemUIServer, reverted and reinstalled Post-Install Root Patch, and other things I'm probably not remembering at the moment.
No such problem at the iMac (iMac 10,1)
Whatever you can think of will be greatly appreciated.
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