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Has anyone noticed Plex Media Server is crashing almost immediately after turning it on on MacOS 13 Ventura Beta 4?
 
Has anyone noticed Plex Media Server is crashing almost immediately after turning it on on MacOS 13 Ventura Beta 4?
Not on my Mac Studio. Plex works just fine, and I am on Beta 4 as well...

Plex is Version 1.50.1.3176-06a9352d
 
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Adobe Reader but I cannot print documents on my epson printer. Other programs can print. Funny enough it is with every new macOS version that this happens.
 
Hello, does anyone know if CloudMounter works with macOS 13 Ventura?

This might be a little late, but CloudMounter does not work with Ventura public beta 2. It doesn't crash, but I can't get Dropbox or OneDrive to mount as disks.
 
Why is it so hit’n’miss between apps working or not working in PB2? What works just fine for some people, doesn’t work for others…
 
just the nature of the beta; software conflicts, different processors... etc. hence the point of the betas, to weed out these issues....
Summarizing what I have noticed;

If you recently installed your Mac from scratch, i.e. cleaned out your macOS disk, installed Monterey, and reinstalled all your apps, and then installed Ventura, most of your setup works just fine. Especially if you did all of this on a Apple Silicone Mac…

If on the other hand you have an Intel Mac, and you last reinstalled with Mojave or Catalina, you are VERY likely to have issues.

This is my opinion, and NOT based on any deeply profound analysis…
 
Summarizing what I have noticed;

If you recently installed your Mac from scratch, i.e. cleaned out your macOS disk, installed Monterey, and reinstalled all your apps, and then installed Ventura, most of your setup works just fine. Especially if you did all of this on a Apple Silicone Mac…

If on the other hand you have an Intel Mac, and you last reinstalled with Mojave or Catalina, you are VERY likely to have issues.

This is my opinion, and NOT based on any deeply profound analysis…
yes, an opinion. but how did you figure that out? do you personally have intel and silicon macs? and have you migrated from monterey, mojave and catalina?

i stopped doing clean installs several years ago, so i updated my (intel) imac from monterey to ventura, and it's been pretty great (not perfect; these are betas!).

i think it's far more involved than that (and just my opinion); again, based on the OS you came from, the other software you run, the processor, random moments in the universe....
 
I base my observations and opinion on that I have two Macs with Ventura; one 2019 Mac Pro, which came I think came with Catalina, and has been updated gradually ever since, has a lot of software installed, and with Ventura has had its share of issues... My 2022 Mac Studio on the other hand, came with Monterey and I reinstalled EVERYTHING, and throughout testing Ventura, I have really had but a few minor issues and none of the general issues everyone else are reporting.

With the move from Intel to Apple Silicon everyone really should install from scratch. Adobe, Microsoft, etc., will not prompt you to move to Universal software versions...
 
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I base my observations and opinion on that I have two Macs with Ventura; one 2019 Mac Pro, which came I think came with Catalina, and has been updated gradually ever since, has a lot of software installed, and with Ventura has had its share of issues... My 2022 Mac Studio on the other hand, came with Monterey and I reinstalled EVERYTHING, and throughout testing Ventura, I have really had but a few minor issues and none of the general issues everyone else are reporting.

With the move from Intel to Apple Silicon everyone really should install from scratch. Adobe, Microsoft, etc., will not prompt you to move to Universal software versions...
2 macs. that's what, an astronomically-tiny percentage of a percentage of 1 percent of all the macs out there?

i appreciate your sharing your anecdotal experiences, but they hardly qualifies as absolutes. no harm in doing a clean start moving from intel to silicon, but, undoubtedly, most non-macrumors-forum people will simply use migration assistant, update when they need to (apps, the OS), and life will go on.
 
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I was talking about the migration to Ventura. If you want feedback on the move from Intel to Apple Silicon, there are a wealth of people who will tell you that to get full use of Apple Silicon, NOT to rely on migration, but rather that a clean install is the way to go:



And in the forums I researched when I had to choose, 2-in-3 successful migrations from Intel to Apple Silicon, had done a fresh install.
 
I was talking about the migration to Ventura. If you want feedback on the move from Intel to Apple Silicon, there are a wealth of people who will tell you that to get full use of Apple Silicon, NOT to rely on migration, but rather that a clean install is the way to go:



And in the forums I researched when I had to choose, 2-in-3 successful migrations from Intel to Apple Silicon, had done a fresh install.
sure, but again... most macusers don't do these things; they'll move from a 2016 mac to an M1 mac thru migration assistant, and apple obviously expects this (ie, no warnings not to). most people want things uncomplicated, and there's nothing wrong with that.

but do what works for you 👍
 
And then they come here complaining that their new M1 or M2 Mac isn't performing as it should, isn't fast enough, or something like that. Or they install Ventura beta versions and say it isn't working...
 
Which is my point… People are saying that apps do not work in Ventura, and others are saying those apps work fine. Some are reporting for instance that Teams, Plex and Fantastical are not working, and I am saying they work just fine for me and others, and it may be down to installation rather than Ventura.

I installed my Mac Studio all from scratch less than 6 weeks ago (on Monterey), and right now I do not have a single issue with any app. On my Mac Pro on the other hand, I am having lots of issues, and this Mac hasn’t been refreshed for 3 years. Almost identical apps installed on those two Macs.
 
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Now which apps are you guys referring to? We know that some will work and some won't - which is about all you are saying. This thread is supposed to be about guidance on specific apps and the conditions under which they work or don't work with macOS 13.
there's a whole post, where i reply to someone. it's very specific. taking one phrase from my post and asking for clarification makes no sense. read the post, and if you have a relevant question, just ask.
 
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