macOS 14 Sonoma on Unsupported Macs Thread

[deeveedee]

The KDK should match the macOS,if not a manual install

EDIT: I'm not sure why I would want to refute that. I think we're talking passed each other.

"OCLP v.1.4.3+ has now reached a state of maturity that if your installation or update of macOS does not result in a success, it means - You did something wrong. "

It's true, can you refute? 🤔

EDIT2: Yes, I can. Wait for the next version of OCLP that requires changes for a new macOS. By its very nature, OCLP is in a continual state of Alpha and Beta as Devs are forced to adapt to each new version of macOS. And, it's software. There will be mistakes or at least logical errors that need to be corrected.

 

[K two]

From the guide "If you're using OCLP v0.4.3 or earlier, or need to run the patcher manually..." and "If your system is unable to connect to the internet, you can manually download a KDK from Apple's site"

My impression is that, as long as we have a network connection during the application of OCLP post-install patches, there is no need for us to manually install the KDK. As I indicated, I'm maintaining a wired-Ethernet connection during my macOS Sonoma installs and applications of OCLP post-install patches to Sonoma. With recent enhancements to OCLP, it is smart enough to grab prerequisites before losing the Wi-Fi connection, so my need to maintain the wired Ethernet connection may have changed (but I keep wired Ethernet anyway).

EDIT: I have seen posts in this thread that imply that, any time there is a new KDK, we should be manually installing it. Maybe I've misread those posts, but I don't believe that we should be installing a new KDK with every new KDK update (preferring to allow OCLP to install if necessary).

The KDK should match the macOS, if not, a manual install would be appropriate? 🤔

 

[K two]

EDIT: I'm not sure why I would want to refute that. I think we're talking passed each other.


EDIT2: Yes, I can. Wait for the next version of OCLP that requires changes for a new macOS. By its very nature, OCLP is in a continual state of Alpha and Beta as Devs are forced to adapt to each new version of macOS. And, it's software. There will be mistakes or at least logical errors that need to be corrected.

Writing about the current macOSs and OCLP, nothing theoretical. Predicting the future is above the pay-grade.

 

[RogueB]

iMac 13,2 (metal capable)

Updated to 14.5 via OTA over 14.4.1, using OCLP 1.5n (from 4.2.24); no major issues noted so far.
"Memories" in iPhoto are fully functional.

MacBook Pro 5,2 (mid 2009, not metal compliant)

Installed 14.5 beta1 OTA , "over" 14.4.1 and using OCLP 1.5n, onto an internal SSD. The OCLP did detect need for new KDK and downloaded it (via Ethernet connection), before proceeding with installation. Multiple reboots during installation, sometimes mimicking a complete stall, but does complete. NVRAM reset was required to complete the process, and SMC reset, thereafter, to reactivate keyboard backlight. While no major issues noted, "Memories" function, in iPhoto, does crash when trying to activate the "slide show" (See post #6070 by HVDS)
Networking, Apple applications, LibreOffice suite, and other 3rd party apps are fully functional. System and applications are responsive.

Great work by the developer teams.

Hope this may be of help.

 

[chevyboy60013]

Got 14.4.1 installed on my mid 2010 MacBook pro. Installed without issue, although I did need to use the usb dock with a wired keyboard and mouse to do the post install patches, but once they were done all works as normal. Using it now for roughly 3 hours since I did the update from 14.3.1, and no issues noted. I'm not sure.... but Safari seems faster and smoother as well.

Great job team OCLP once again!!!!

 

[chevyboy60013]

This might be a coincidence, but the battery was trash, like it only worked for maybe 40 minutes on high sierra, and when I put sonoma 14.3.1 on it..... battery was like it did not exist. just decided to see if there was any difference in battery performance or if I need to actually order one. Been using it for about an hour on battery and it still going strong, at 95% remaining, still says "service recommended" but if it is gonna act like there is actually a battery inside, even if it is only good for an hour or hour and a half.... don't have to rush and order a battery.

 

[Macdctr]

I updated my Early 2015 i7 13-inch MBP to MacOS Developer Beta 14.5 using OCLP 1.4.3 with the install process going smoothly.

No issues running the upgraded OS on either my 13-inch or my 11-inch laptops so far . . .

 

[htcmda]

Currently I have a Mid 2015 15" with DG. Latest version of Monterey, with windows 11 bootcamp.

IF I want to format/wipe my MacOS partition and clean install Sonoma, will this prevent my bootcamp from being bootable by holding option on startup?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Macdctr]

That's a great question because I haven't run bootcamp in a very long time on my Mac and as such am not sure if wiping your MacOS partition and do a clean install of a new OS would disable your ability to boot into Windows via Bootcamp by holding down the option key during startup. My guess is you should be able to but don't just go by my word on this as I have not tried installing a dual partition with a bootcamp/Windows being one of them.

Perhaps there is someone on this forum who might be able to answer your question regarding this . . . I am now curious to see if you can . . .

 

[PropClear]

Currently I have a Mid 2015 15" with DG. Latest version of Monterey, with windows 11 bootcamp.

IF I want to format/wipe my MacOS partition and clean install Sonoma, will this prevent my bootcamp from being bootable by holding option on startup?

Thanks in advance.

A lot more information is needed like partition structure kind of w* setup uefi or legacy installation etc... here is may not the right place for w* discussions - but i simply would try to install newest OCLP and then simply update OTA directly your monterey partition to sonoma - give it a try ;-) & good luck.

 

[jotzet]

Safari Text Rendering Issues /w Sonoma on iMac14,2​

Anyone else is experiencing Text Rendering Issues since Sonoma when using Safari? I was getting distorted text here and there after minutes / hours (?) of usage. No matter which Update with Sonoma, or OCLP - it just does not go away. This is so frustrating!

A random visit of a page (here microsoft).

This very page...

Besides this I also have Issues with Metal rendering (I suppose) - but I'll post this separately here and on Discord, maybe some OCLP-angel can help!

- Java Metal (e.g when using IntelliJ Idea)
- VMWare Fusion
- most annoying: Faces detection on Apple's Photos.app is garbled

@OKonnel has a lot of experience with Nvidia Kepler Infra like iMac14,2

Thanks everyone!
Joachim

 

[hvds]

iMac 13,2 (metal capable)

Updated to 14.5 via OTA over 14.4.1, using OCLP 1.5n (from 4.2.24); no major issues noted so far.
"Memories" in iPhoto are fully functional.

MacBook Pro 5,2 (mid 2009, not metal compliant)

Installed 14.5 beta1 OTA , "over" 14.4.1 and using OCLP 1.5n, onto an internal SSD. The OCLP did detect need for new KDK and downloaded it (via Ethernet connection), before proceeding with installation. Multiple reboots during installation, sometimes mimicking a complete stall, but does complete. NVRAM reset was required to complete the process, and SMC reset, thereafter, to reactivate keyboard backlight. While no major issues noted, "Memories" function, in iPhoto, does crash when trying to activate the "slide show" (See post #6070 by HVDS)
Networking, Apple applications, LibreOffice suite, and other 3rd party apps are fully functional. System and applications are responsive.

Great work by the developer teams.

Hope this may be of help.


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Thank you RogueB.
Successful update of my MBP5,2 too. Done very similarly but with OCLP 1.4.3.
And thank you to all developers!

 

[chevyboy60013]

First full day of using my mid 2010 MacBook Pro on Sonoma 14.4.1. No unexpected unwanted surprises which is awesome, it actually seems to be snappier than it was and it was no slouch on 14.3.1. Safari seems to have gotten a speed increase as well, which is a good thing. It is unbelievable how well this mid 2010 MacBook Pro runs Sonoma since it is so far away from the last supported version of macOS which was high sierra. I think maybe tonight I will allow my late 2009 iMac to do the update from sonoma 14.2.1 to 14.4.1, obviously updating oclp first. Would be nice to have stage manager but it is what it is and certainly cannot complain since it is running the latest version of macOS and it is 14 years old. AWESOME JOB TO THE CREW AT OCLP. KEEP UP THE AWESOME WORK!!!

 

[pepepro]

until yesterday - thanks oclp 1.4.2 - i had a nicely running sonoma 14.3.1 sytem on my 11,1 macbook pro from late 2013.

then i updated oclp 1.4.2 to oclp 1.4.3 - but after applying the root patches and rebooting i got stuck somewhere in the boot processs ...

with the here recommended measures:

->

by jessie's flying (thanks a lot for this!!!) - within terminal in recovery mode -
i was able to succesfully start up my macbook pro again - just without the root patches
(and therefore without graphics acceleration, wifi, ...)

after applying the oclp 1.4.3 root patches again, i again get stuck in the boot process -> same procedure ... and so on

has anybody here some helpful thoughts on this?

THANK YOU!!

 

[pepepro]

by the way, jessie's flying recommendation i later on also found here:

https://dortania.github.io/OpenCore...OOTING.html#stuck-on-boot-after-root-patching

 

[GreenFuryBear]

Im new to OpenCore. Ive patched my MacBook Pro 2012 model to Sonoma and after a few hours of use after a reboot any time I right-click or try to paste a url Safari crashes. I have since downloaded Firefox and Chrome. The same thing happens on all three browsers. I haven't noticed the issue with any other app. Any one have any ideas on what might be causing the crashes?

Edit: Once it starts crashing nothing Ive tried works to fix it bar a reboot.

 

[K two]

Im new to OpenCore. Ive patched my MacBook Pro 2012 model and after a few hours of use after a reboot any time I right-click or try to paste a url Safari crashes. I have since downloaded Firefox and Chrome. The same thing happens on all three browsers. I haven't noticed the issue with any other app. Any one have any ideas on what might be causing the crashes?

Edit: Once it starts crashing nothing Ive tried works to fix it bar a reboot.

Which version of OCLP? 🤷‍♂️

 

[GreenFuryBear]

Which version of OCLP? 🤷‍♂️

1.4.3

 

[K two]

1.4.3

Try v.1.5.0n. https://github.com/dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/blob/main/SOURCE.md

 

[GreenFuryBear]

Try v.1.5.0n. https://github.com/dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/blob/main/SOURCE.md

v1.5.0n installed and Sonoma is running a lot faster, been running over an hour or so with no issues. Thanks for your help.

 

[Kevo]

I have an iMac16,2 that I updated today to Sonoma 14.4.1 with OCLP 1.4.3. It oddly gets stuck during boot either right at the beginning of the progress bar, or about 1/4 of the way in. It seems to go in a cycle where powering it down by holding the power button and then powering it back on again gets it to boot normally about every third boot.

The computer has an nvme drive and an sata drive. I've tried installing on both drives, reinstalling OCLP in safe mode, and it seems to behave the same off either drive. It will boot fine after the initial install and then the problems seem to start after doing root patching.

I also built the installer again and downloaded OCLP again just in case something was bad with the installer.

Anyone have any ideas what might be going on here. I'm not sure what else to try beyond doing some research into debugging OCLP which I have no experience with.

Oh, I forgot to mention I did reset NVRAM and SMC multiple times to no avail.

At this point I can manually restart until bootup is successful or boot off OCLP from the USB installer and then select the drive. That seems to work first try.

 

[amaze1499]

Im new to OpenCore. Ive patched my MacBook Pro 2012 model to Sonoma and after a few hours of use after a reboot any time I right-click or try to paste a url Safari crashes. I have since downloaded Firefox and Chrome. The same thing happens on all three browsers. I haven't noticed the issue with any other app. Any one have any ideas on what might be causing the crashes?

Edit: Once it starts crashing nothing Ive tried works to fix it bar a reboot.

Did you check the crash logs yet? Is the same issue reproducible in a new user on that machine?

 

[K two]

Did you check the crash logs yet? Is the same issue reproducible in a new user on that machine?

OP fixed his issue with OCLP v.1.5.0n see #6095. 👏

 

[webg3]

That's a great question because I haven't run bootcamp in a very long time on my Mac and as such am not sure if wiping your MacOS partition and do a clean install of a new OS would disable your ability to boot into Windows via Bootcamp by holding down the option key during startup. My guess is you should be able to but don't just go by my word on this as I have not tried installing a dual partition with a bootcamp/Windows being one of them.

Perhaps there is someone on this forum who might be able to answer your question regarding this . . . I am now curious to see if you can . . .

If you don't change the partition Bootcamp, it will remain independent. I myself recently returned to macOS Big Sur, and Windows 11 continues to work normally.

 

[mikelets456]

OTA from 14.4 to 14.4.1 on 6,2 2013 MacBook Air with a Hynix P31 SSD. All went well.

One note: had a first kernel panic yesterday. The screen froze while I was away and I had to do a hard reboot. I'm not adept at reading log reports, but it looked as if the culprit was watchdogd.

I had my first Kernal panic a few weeks ago on my 11,4 on 14.3.1 with OCLP 1.4.0---it has been running fantastic otherwise. However, this is the first time my panic came from my Intel 670 SSD and probably the adapter. Is there anything that could be done --- it only happens every few weeks and everything is is rock solid in the meantime. It only happens through the night at some point and like I stated...once every 2-3 weeks never when using it.
Deep sleep is turned off...